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Post by Hounhound on Jun 27, 2022 13:27:10 GMT -6
I think things happened last season that otherwise would have brought Miller back down to earth now that Andrew Body isn't there anymore. Sinton was missing a bunch of starters for the Miller game including their best player and only lost by 4, Alice was blowing Miller out then went conservative in the second half and lost by 4, Beeville got down inside the 10 and ran out of time and lost by 4. If those 3 games go the other way Miller is just another 4-6 team with no defense. You still have to give Miller credit for pulling it out but my point is I think even though they have more weapons than they've had under Evans this coming season they still don't have Andrew Body and so I think they get brought back down to earth this season. I don't think Body gets enough credit. That dude is gonna be starting in the NFL someday. I'm sorry for yet again ruining the narrative that I'm here to kiss someone's a$$ but this is my honest opinion. Maybe I'll be wrong and Miller will tear it up because Like I said they do have a bunch of weapons but I don't know. I don't see them beating Vets or the 2 Victoria's and even Moody could give them a scare. I agree with you on Body I think Miller may be better than that though this year. If that QB gains some momentum and ups his game they have the weapons to be damn potent and very hard to stop. It's a MUST that Miller be Hard to stop. All their eggs are in the offensive basket. The Defense can't stop anyone and when the offense scores quickly the defense gets gassed very early in games. it's a recipe for disaster.
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Post by Hounhound on Jun 27, 2022 13:33:16 GMT -6
I don't disagree. But I'd throw 2017 in there too. That was Body's freshman year if I'm not mistaken... and the year they started becoming goodI guess we are actually talking about the same thing... I consider 2017 thru now as "years"... apparently y'all don't. But we are talking about the same thing. Basically Miller has been good for just about Vet's entire existence. 2017 seriously? When Miller went 4-6 and 1-4 in district? That is your idea of good?š¤ Hell Yeah, That's a Signature Win for Vet's!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 15:53:16 GMT -6
Your first sentence is exactly my argument against calallen and yet somehow I get attacked for having that opinion. This isn't all about Denton Ryan. I'm saying calallen NEVER takes those chances not just this season and not just the Denton Ryan example. They NEVER put a team on their schedule that could potentially embarrass them and when I say embarrass I'm not talking like it has to be 70-0 so stop making it about that. I'm not even stating an opinion. It's fact that they don't so I don't understand the pushback I get from the outsiders. From the calallen people I expect it but not from the others. So the all-star SA Cornerstone team doesn't count that they played just a couple years back or LaVega? CAlallen is 4a D1, CCVM is 5a D1 and there is a HUGE percentage difference between these two schools in enrollment size as CCVM is about 74% larger than Calallen is. How many 3a schools does Calallen or Alice have scheduled this year for non district games? At least both are playing at their fighting weight or above..NOT below it. Calallen is ranked higher than La Vega almost always. So NO that's not "taking a chance". And NOBODY thought Cornerstone would to that to Calallen it just is what it was.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 15:54:13 GMT -6
I don't disagree. But I'd throw 2017 in there too. That was Body's freshman year if I'm not mistaken... and the year they started becoming good. I guess we are actually talking about the same thing... I consider 2017 thru now as "years"... apparently y'all don't. But we are talking about the same thing. Basically Miller has been good for just about Vet's entire existence. Dude, seriously man. They went 4-6 and the only wins were: Carroll 44-38 in OT King 26-13 Moody 34-28 (2OT) TM 38-14 They were absolutely blown out by Calallen, GP, & CCVM Stop trying to make teams better than they were because you beat them. 2017 Miller was NOT good! Alice blew them out also.
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Post by mattsteppdctf on Jun 27, 2022 19:05:30 GMT -6
Calallen did play Jourdanton in non-district not that long ago
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 19:49:54 GMT -6
Calallen did play Jourdanton in non-district not that long ago Stop it. You must have been dreaming. Calallen does not play smaller opponents. Just ask them.
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Post by gp37 on Jun 27, 2022 20:14:49 GMT -6
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Post by raidercatphenomsmellmyown on Jun 27, 2022 20:26:38 GMT -6
As far as your example of the year Miller beat Alice 73-42 counting scrimmages that was Miller's SEVENTH game of the season and only Alice's SECOND game. That was the year Alice wasn't playing because of covid then midway through the season had a vote and started the season late. Had Alice also had their 2 scrimmages and 5 games leading up to that Miller game it would have gone very differently. Last season as well Alice was DESTROYING Miller before odd coaching decisions to go conservative once they were up lost them the game by 4. People don't understand also this year was Alice's first full off-season. They didn't have it in 2020 or 2021 because of those same covid guidelines the school had that had them missing half the 2020 season. The point is Miller is not what you are making them out to be and they never have been. For someone that claims to be an ex-Coyote you sure talk a lot of nonsense about them. Not an ex-Coyote. 10 miles west... SD. Alice dudes and SD dudes HATED each other for the most part. I never got into that thing... but I did get a pretty bad vibe when I went to an Alice party once. Lots of dudes mean mugging me. And I did get into a drunken fight with a handful of Alice dudes a little later during college. And Miller fielded their worst team in awhile last season. Their qb was a sophomore if I'm not mistaken. He took his lumps. They'll field a much better team this season. I fully expect them to be a dominant team. If Vets does what I think they'll do... depending on pairings, it could be a Vets/Miller rematch for R4. And yes, I realize the perrenial 6A power Edinburg Vela is in the mix. But I'd rank both Vets and Miller above them. Also, I've seen the posts Alice social media put up. Herron is doing an amazing job with the players... it's very impressive. That locker room reminds me very much of the Mitchell locker room at Vets. The Coyotes will be much much better because of the things he's doing. I fully expect Alice to be a dominant force this season. Calallen good? This would be the year to try. I would disagree on ranking Miller and Vets about Vela. Time will tell but Iād take Vela, they have a program going on down there. Iād love to see how it shakes out.
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Post by FB fan on Jun 27, 2022 20:35:37 GMT -6
Calallen did play Jourdanton in non-district not that long ago They said that was a favor by coach Danaher for coach Andrus who had been asking for those games for a while5. It interrupted the Calallen Flour Bluff rivalry series. Fans both sides weren't happy.
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Post by calcatgirl on Jun 27, 2022 20:54:52 GMT -6
Calallen did play Jourdanton in non-district not that long ago They said that was a favor by coach Danaher for coach Andrus who had been asking for those games for a while5. It interrupted the Calallen Flour Bluff rivalry series. Fans both sides weren't happy. This is 100% correct.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 21:29:54 GMT -6
Calallen did play Jourdanton in non-district not that long ago They said that was a favor by coach Danaher for coach Andrus who had been asking for those games for a while5. It interrupted the Calallen Flour Bluff rivalry series. Fans both sides weren't happy. You don't really believe they played Jourdanton over Flour Bluff to fulfill a favor do you?. That fanbase always has excuses to not ever look bad.
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Post by FB fan on Jun 27, 2022 21:32:03 GMT -6
They said that was a favor by coach Danaher for coach Andrus who had been asking for those games for a while5. It interrupted the Calallen Flour Bluff rivalry series. Fans both sides weren't happy. You don't really believe they played Jourdanton over Flour Bluff to fulfill a favor do you?. That fanbase always has excuses to not ever look bad. You're really making yourself look childish. Just stop it's embarrassing.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jun 27, 2022 21:46:38 GMT -6
Not an ex-Coyote.Ā 10 miles west... SD.Ā Alice dudes and SD dudes HATED each other for the most part.Ā I never got into that thing... but I did get a pretty bad vibe when I went to an Alice party once.Ā Lots of dudes mean mugging me.Ā And I did get into a drunken fight with a handful of Alice dudes a little later during college. And Miller fielded their worst team in awhile last season.Ā Their qb was a sophomore if I'm not mistaken.Ā He took his lumps.Ā They'll field a much better team this season.Ā I fully expect them to be a dominant team.Ā If Vets does what I think they'll do... depending on pairings, it could be a Vets/Miller rematch for R4.Ā And yes, I realize the perrenial 6A power Edinburg Vela is in the mix.Ā But I'd rank both Vets and Miller above them. Also, I've seen the posts Alice social media put up.Ā Herron is doing an amazing job with the players... it's very impressive.Ā That locker room reminds me very much of the Mitchell locker room at Vets.Ā The Coyotes will be much much better because of the things he's doing.Ā I fully expect Alice to be a dominant force this season.Ā Calallen good?Ā This would be the year to try. I would disagree on ranking Miller and Vets about Vela. Time will tell but Iād take Vela, they have a program going on down there. Iād love to see how it shakes out. No doubt. At 60-10 (mostly or all in 6A) since 2016ā¦ they are definitely one stout valley program. Theyāve even performed honorably in the playoffs against really good teams. On paper, I can see how theyād be favored. However, valley schools have had nearly zero success against Miller and CC Vetsā¦ at least that I can remember. Mission Vets did beat CC Vets in 2018, but that took a 710 yard performance by the Mr. Texas Football of that yearā¦ for a 7-point win in a game CC Vets ran out of clock in. Granted, Vela is a step up from Mission Vetsā¦ BUT, itās also 2022 and not 2018. CC Vets has also improved as a whole. Iāve been wanting Vela on the schedule as a 6A school for a good while now. It didnāt happen. However I may get my wish with them as a 5A1 school now. I say bring it on! Iām looking forward to the season, and I hope Vets shows the improvement over last season that Iām fully expecting.
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Post by picodegallo on Jun 28, 2022 5:50:56 GMT -6
Calallen did play Jourdanton in non-district not that long ago They said that was a favor by coach Danaher for coach Andrus who had been asking for those games for a while5. It interrupted the Calallen Flour Bluff rivalry series. Fans both sides weren't happy. Thatās exactly why it was set up. Wasnāt thrilled we lost the opportunity to play you all , but Andrus lists Danaher as one of his most impactful mentors and I understand Andrus wanting to coach against Coach D one more time before Coach D eventually hanging it up.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jun 28, 2022 5:55:36 GMT -6
I would disagree on ranking Miller and Vets about Vela. Time will tell but Iād take Vela, they have a program going on down there. Iād love to see how it shakes out. No doubt. At 60-10 (mostly or all in 6A) since 2016ā¦ they are definitely one stout valley program. Theyāve even performed honorably in the playoffs against really good teams. On paper, I can see how theyād be favored. However, valley schools have had nearly zero success against Miller and CC Vetsā¦ at least that I can remember. Mission Vets did beat CC Vets in 2018, but that took a 710 yard performance by the Mr. Texas Football of that yearā¦ for a 7-point win in a game CC Vets ran out of clock in. Granted, Vela is a step up from Mission Vetsā¦ BUT, itās also 2022 and not 2018. CC Vets has also improved as a whole. Iāve been wanting Vela on the schedule as a 6A school for a good while now. It didnāt happen. However I may get my wish with them as a 5A1 school now. I say bring it on! Iām looking forward to the season, and I hope Vets shows the improvement over last season that Iām fully expecting. Miller has been to the playoffs only 4 times since 2010 and CCVM only 5 times total. Miller almost lost to Brownsville pace in the 1st round in 2019. Again, excuses galore for CCVM's loss to Mission Vets in 2018. Your defense gave up 62 points....end of story and I don't care if they had Payton Manning at QB! Your team did not look good at all against a pretty average Brownsville Memorial team last year and if that would have been Vela you would have lost last year by double digits. That was a 7-4 Brownsville Vets team that got beat by McAllen Memorial 17-35. McAllen Memorial got spanked by Vela 6-42! You better hope CCVM has improved over last year and Vela has dropped off some or your dreams of another semi-finals appearance may get smashed!
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