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Post by picodegallo on Aug 3, 2021 9:04:18 GMT -6
Right now with the addition of UT & blOwU, the SEC now holds 15 of the 23 BCS titles with 7 different SEC teams having at least 1 of them. If Clemson and FL St join, that would be 19 of the 23 titles and 9 different National Champions. WOW So that begs the question.....Is that a good thing? With the changes in students athletes being able to make their own money not sure this just doesnโt turn into a minor league for the NFL? Also this is going to widen the gap between the teams of the SEC and the rest of college football. Sure you still will have Ohio State, ND, Etc but the 2nd tier of teams like TCU, TT, Baylor etc will take a hit on money The NCAA is only reaping what they sowed. The response to the recruiting scandals staring with SMU went way overboard in retrospect. So ridiculous it became a violation for a coach to do something like pay for a phone call on his phone card for an athlete to call home after a tragedy in his family But then the NCAA could use that very player's name, image and likeness to making a few bucks? Yea that Nickle and dime way of trying to nail colleges for violations and in turn looking the other way at some others got us where we are at today. The NCAA should have found a way to allow athletes to share more of the money they bring in to their own schools and put a cap on it. I think most college athletes could get by with a monthly stipend of somewhere close to $1000 just fine on top of their room and board and school being paid for via a scholarship. This on top of a permanent fund for athletes who have life sustaining injuries as a result of their sports in college. What might push some of this NIL stuff back into the bag is what just occurred with the Southlake QB. If this becomes a trend, you will start having the UIL and other states ruling organizations pushing back with their state governments which in turn might start a domino effect the other way. National law makers will start seeing one conference overwhelmingly benefit over others, which might push the button even more for a second look. As it stands right now, this would be the SEC who would be the biggest winner and you have some very powerful law makers in ACC, BIG 10 and PAC 12 country who might feel it from the schools in their districts and states and demand reforms. Will it go back to pre NIL? Nope.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 3, 2021 11:27:51 GMT -6
The NCAA is only reaping what they sowed. The response to the recruiting scandals staring with SMU went way overboard in retrospect. So ridiculous it became a violation for a coach to do something like pay for a phone call on his phone card for an athlete to call home after a tragedy in his family But then the NCAA could use that very player's name, image and likeness to making a few bucks? Yea that Nickle and dime way of trying to nail colleges for violations and in turn looking the other way at some others got us where we are at today. The NCAA should have found a way to allow athletes to share more of the money they bring in to their own schools and put a cap on it. I think most college athletes could get by with a monthly stipend of somewhere close to $1000 just fine on top of their room and board and school being paid for via a scholarship. This on top of a permanent fund for athletes who have life sustaining injuries as a result of their sports in college. What might push some of this NIL stuff back into the bag is what just occurred with the Southlake QB. If this becomes a trend, you will start having the UIL and other states ruling organizations pushing back with their state governments which in turn might start a domino effect the other way. National law makers will start seeing one conference overwhelmingly benefit over others, which might push the button even more for a second look. As it stands right now, this would be the SEC who would be the biggest winner and you have some very powerful law makers in ACC, BIG 10 and PAC 12 country who might feel it from the schools in their districts and states and demand reforms. Will it go back to pre NIL? Nope. You damn skippy! I agree with you. For many, many years the NCAA has used big time college football to line their damn pockets.....as have the universities themselves. I am one of a few probably that think it is a good thing and about time the players make something off of it. After all, they are giving up everything basically to play this game at that level and MOST will never smell the NFL and the big bucks and a lot more will not be walking well by the time they are 50 years old! I've seen what these kids go through to play at the highest level in college and they have absolutely no life outside of it while they are doing it. And the argument that they are getting an education paid for is BS and doesn't hold water with me because of the work, time, and the bodily harm they do to themselves to get that education.
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Post by Hounhound on Aug 4, 2021 17:02:31 GMT -6
With all the College realignment talk going on, now a supposed big topic Is ND vs Toledo on a Streaming site. Really? I hope with all the mega super conference building the games between a big school like ND vs a lesser school- Toledo will cease to exist. Other than money for the little Guy It serves no real purpose.
And Trying to make this matchup into a BIG GAME is a Hard Fail at best.
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Post by flowtowntigers on Sept 10, 2021 12:34:54 GMT -6
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Post by Clemensbuff on Sept 13, 2021 8:10:10 GMT -6
Good pickups for the big 12-2+4! Cinci and UCF have been tough and will help the conference I think. But, with OU & UT leaving these 4 won't make up 1/3 of the money the conference will be losing. I see the new big 12 when it comes in play as maybe the 4th strongest conference in football.
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Post by Hounhound on Sept 13, 2021 11:51:03 GMT -6
The Big XII is talking about adding another 4 teams to make it a 16 team conference. And It will stretch from Coast to Coast.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Sept 13, 2021 12:16:22 GMT -6
The Big XII is talking about adding another 4 teams to make it a 16 team conference. And It will stretch from Coast to Coast. And it will still be at best, the 3rd best football conference. Losing OU and UT pretty much almost guarantees it will be weaker than that. Yes, TCU, OK St, I St, & K St are pretty dang good year in and year out but losing the big 2 is going to hurt them no matter if they make it a 20 team conference.
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Post by Hounhound on Sept 13, 2021 12:28:44 GMT -6
The Big XII is talking about adding another 4 teams to make it a 16 team conference. And It will stretch from Coast to Coast. And it will still be at best, the 3rd best football conference. Losing OU and UT pretty much almost guarantees it will be weaker than that. Yes, TCU, OK St, I St, & K St are pretty dang good year in and year out but losing the big 2 is going to hurt them no matter if they make it a 20 team conference. True, But the only alternative is to cease to exist.
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Post by flowtowntigers on Sept 16, 2021 5:22:51 GMT -6
Good pickups for the big 12-2+4! Cinci and UCF have been tough and will help the conference I think. But, with OU & UT leaving these 4 won't make up 1/3 of the money the conference will be losing. I see the new big 12 when it comes in play as maybe the 4th strongest conference in football. Yea the Bearkats and Knights are quality football teams but the real issue is TV viewers. I was listening to a Podcast from the Athletic and they noted that Big 12 games not involving Texas or OU that those games rarely broke one million TV viewers. So basically nobody wants to watch Kansas vs Baylor or Texas Tech vs West Virginia. If not sure if UCF vs Ok St or Cincinnati vs TCU is must watch TV to the non Big 12 fan. Most watched college football teams (Full list in the link) Ohio State (5.19M) Alabama (5.09M) Michigan (4.18M) Notre Dame (3.61M) LSU (3.22M) Auburn (3.12M) Georgia (2.91M) Oklahoma (2.90M) Clemson (2.67M) Penn State (2.55M) Florida (2.46M) Wisconsin (2.27M) Texas (2.269M) Florida State (2.23M) Michigan State (2.20M) Southern Cal (1.98M) Texas A&M (1.851M) Tennessee (1.849M) Oklahoma State (1.64M) Mississippi (1.61M) medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach/which-college-football-programs-bring-in-the-most-tv-viewers-efc03c689e50
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Post by Clemensbuff on Sept 16, 2021 5:38:39 GMT -6
Some great information here Flowtown!
There are only a couple on this list that surprise me where they are at on it. I'm amazed at the michigan spot to say the least and am kind of surprised that both Wisconsin and Penn St are higher than UT.
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Post by flowtowntigers on Sept 16, 2021 9:01:12 GMT -6
Some great information here Flowtown! There are only a couple on this list that surprise me where they are at on it. I'm amazed at the michigan spot to say the least and am kind of surprised that both Wisconsin and Penn St are higher than UT. The case for Wisconsin is the Badgers are the only D1 program in the state and they have been around for some 100 plus years. I would imagine in that region you are a Badger fan by default. Penn State is kina similar, has a lot of history, established tradition, and a large alumni base. They have also been the only major football power in the NE for the last 40 years.
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Post by picodegallo on Sept 16, 2021 10:31:57 GMT -6
Some great information here Flowtown! There are only a couple on this list that surprise me where they are at on it. I'm amazed at the michigan spot to say the least and am kind of surprised that both Wisconsin and Penn St are higher than UT. The case for Wisconsin is the Badgers are the only D1 program in the state and they have been around for some 100 plus years. I would imagine in that region you are a Badger fan by default. Penn State is kina similar, has a lot of history, established tradition, and a large alumni base. They have also been the only major football power in the NE for the last 40 years. Indeed this is what I was going to note about this. States like Texas have their audiences going all sorts of directions, even to some of the out of state schools. The DFW area has a sizeable OU influence and I can imagine some Okie State finds itself there too. Same goes for parts of East Texas and the Houston areas with LSU. Anyone who has driven from Houston east bound to Louisiana can't help to not see the vehicles with Texas plates sporting LSU stickers on them especially if you are driving that route a day or two before an LSU game in Baton Rouge. The Texas pie gets split with two big slices going to UT and A&M and then some smaller slices going to the Tech, Baylor, TCU, OU and LSU. Schools like SMU and Cougar High get some crumbs left on the pan. I was kind of surprised how low the number is for USC however. Considering UCLA hasn't really amounted to much as of late on the national stage and Stanford while being relevant on the national stage on the field really has a local following and not much after that. USC even though they have struggled the last decade still manages to travel well and fill the coliseum to a respectable attendance numbers and has always had a coast to coast following much like Norte Dame.
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Post by FB fan on Sept 16, 2021 21:37:48 GMT -6
Some great information here Flowtown! There are only a couple on this list that surprise me where they are at on it. I'm amazed at the michigan spot to say the least and am kind of surprised that both Wisconsin and Penn St are higher than UT. Neither have the instate competition for attention that UT has nor do a lot of others near the top of that list.
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Post by CC_Varmints on Sept 26, 2021 17:38:25 GMT -6
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