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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 30, 2021 5:58:31 GMT -6
The problem with you Aggie fans is you act like you are blue bloods going back to start of the SEC when you absolutely have little or nothing to do with the SEC success today other than allowing Bear Bryant to leave to Alabama. And they paid you back by sending Coach Fran! Lol!!!! You all couldn't win in the Big 12 when you left and now because of one real good season in the SEC (2012) and a season helped by playing a soft schedule full of losers last year, you think you are a big bad SEC boy like LSU, Bama, UGA or Florida. You think you are headed to the promise land thanks to this despite overpaying for a head coach who had a losing record his last season and a shot recruiting class when he bailed FSU. Keep on believing your own spin! This is where you are wrong I am simply pointing out the fact that the SEC is MUCH tougher than the big 12 and you or chino will not admit it even though all the numbers show it is without a doubt. The other thing I'm pointing out is A&M has been the better team the last few years. I don't care what happened years ago one bit. So, my kid's HS has a state title from 11 years ago, does that mean they are better than Calallen? SMDH We are talking about here and now, not the past. This is the exact thing that you and other Calallen folks like to point out to GP folks all the time on this board.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 30, 2021 11:16:09 GMT -6
The problem with you Aggie fans is you act like you are blue bloods going back to start of the SEC when you absolutely have little or nothing to do with the SEC success today other than allowing Bear Bryant to leave to Alabama. And they paid you back by sending Coach Fran! Lol!!!! You all couldn't win in the Big 12 when you left and now because of one real good season in the SEC (2012) and a season helped by playing a soft schedule full of losers last year, you think you are a big bad SEC boy like LSU, Bama, UGA or Florida. You think you are headed to the promise land thanks to this despite overpaying for a head coach who had a losing record his last season and a shot recruiting class when he bailed FSU. Keep on believing your own spin! This is where you are wrong I am simply pointing out the fact that the SEC is MUCH tougher than the big 12 and you or chino will not admit it even though all the numbers show it is without a doubt. The other thing I'm pointing out is A&M has been the better team the last few years. I don't care what happened years ago one bit. So, my kid's HS has a state title from 11 years ago, does that mean they are better than Calallen? SMDH We are talking about here and now, not the past. This is the exact thing that you and other Calallen folks like to point out to GP folks all the time on this board. I will concede the SEC is stronger mainly because of a core of four teams who are always in contention if you take a 10 year average (Bama, LSU, UGA and Florida) ... I only suggested the SEC is not this monster to be afraid of that is portrayed by the media because of how the narrative gets framed like right now when all the media days and football magazines come out. In other words you take an Ole Miss or Miss State and put them in the Big 12, they will not dominate. You put A&M back in the Big 12 or in the PAC 12 or Big 10, they will not dominate. That's how the media and folks like you describe the SEC when their have been years in the last decade where even Florida, UGA and LSU would struggle in some of the other power conferences. UGA came within two points of losing to Nichols State at home in 2016. That program barely survives and plays to get its butt whooped early for funding! They almost make it sound like Vandy could win the Big 12 or Big 10. You all get the early season hype when most to SEC plays the the Little Debbie Academy, Has Been State, and Cotton Candy U. So everyone enters the conference race with those high rankings made in the PRE SEASON intact and start beating up on each other. But the Media turns around and uses those rankings to justify keeping all the team ranked highly no matter if an Ole Miss gets pounded by Bama , they get to keep the higher ranking and then narrative gets set that everyone else is beating up on each other with their high rankings and they keep them their because of this..... and THEN.... a sorry ass team like Texas shows up at the Sugar Bowl and beats UGA who was butthurt about not getting invited to the playoffs gets beat in all phases of the game and the excuses a mile high come rolling in. BTW that was the same year Bama got dog stomped and spit out by Clemson, but that goes down the memory hole when these discussion come up. It's really not that difficult to understand.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 30, 2021 11:29:04 GMT -6
For the millionth time, the "we play an SEC schedule" week in and week out has been exposed because it's created by media polls and the media keep on there so you can have the talking point. NEXT! lmao It's been exposed.....by who? You and Chino saying so? Here is some real proof below! The SEC has winning records against ALL OTHER conferences both in non-conference games and bowl games the last 10 years. What about this fact the SEC has won 13 of the 23 BCS titles (56.5%) with 5 different SEC teams have at least 1 title? In that same 23 years The ACC has 5, the Big 10 2, the Big 12 2, and the Pac 12 1. You and chino both want to claim the only dominance the SEC has is Alabama when the FACT is if you take Alabama's titles away the SEC still has 2 more BCS titles by 4 different teams than ANY OTHER conference! So quit trying to say that if it wasn't for Alabama the SEC wouldn't be DOMINANT because they OBVIOUSLY still are. How many of those titles did Bama win vs the rest of the SEC?
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 30, 2021 12:00:50 GMT -6
This is where you are wrong I am simply pointing out the fact that the SEC is MUCH tougher than the big 12 and you or chino will not admit it even though all the numbers show it is without a doubt. The other thing I'm pointing out is A&M has been the better team the last few years. I don't care what happened years ago one bit. So, my kid's HS has a state title from 11 years ago, does that mean they are better than Calallen? SMDH We are talking about here and now, not the past. This is the exact thing that you and other Calallen folks like to point out to GP folks all the time on this board. I will concede the SEC is stronger mainly because of a core of four teams who are always in contention if you take a 10 year average (Bama, LSU, UGA and Florida) ... I only suggested the SEC is not this monster to be afraid of that is portrayed by the media because of how the narrative gets framed like right now when all the media days and football magazines come out. In other words you take an Ole Miss or Miss State and put them in the Big 12, they will not dominate. You put A&M back in the Big 12 or in the PAC 12 or Big 10, they will not dominate. That's how the media and folks like you describe the SEC when their have been years in the last decade where even Florida, UGA and LSU would struggle in some of the other power conferences. UGA came within two points of losing to Nichols State at home in 2016. That program barely survives and plays to get its butt whooped early for funding! They almost make it sound like Vandy could win the Big 12 or Big 10. You all get the early season hype when most to SEC plays the the Little Debbie Academy, Has Been State, and Cotton Candy U. So everyone enters the conference race with those high rankings made in the PRE SEASON intact and start beating up on each other. But the Media turns around and uses those rankings to justify keeping all the team ranked highly no matter if an Ole Miss gets pounded by Bama , they get to keep the higher ranking and then narrative gets set that everyone else is beating up on each other with their high rankings and they keep them their because of this..... and THEN.... a sorry ass team like Texas shows up at the Sugar Bowl and beats UGA who was butthurt about not getting invited to the playoffs gets beat in all phases of the game and the excuses a mile high come rolling in. BTW that was the same year Bama got dog stomped and spit out by Clemson, but that goes down the memory hole when these discussion come up. It's really not that difficult to understand. I've never claimed Ole Miss, Miss St, or A&M would dominate the big 12 so don't try and put those words in my mouth. The bottom line is one team has DOMINATED the big 12 the last 8-10 years and you know that I'm pretty sure. Even the year UT managed to beat them they turned around and lost to OU in the conference title game. Now if UT cannot win the Big 12 with some regularity and has a losing record the last 10 years against OU, OK ST, & TCU, what makes you think they are going to be anything but another Ole Miss, Miss St, or A&M in the SEC? It's been 16 years since they won it, not 6 and they've not had a whole lot since. And quit making it sound like the SEC is the only conference that schedules cupcakes for non-conference when your Longhorns do the same thing every year at least once, sometime twice. Since 2011 here are a few I can name..... Rice Wyoming New Mexico New Mexico St North TX UTEP San Jose St Tulsa LA Tech
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 30, 2021 12:05:03 GMT -6
lmao It's been exposed.....by who? You and Chino saying so? Here is some real proof below! The SEC has winning records against ALL OTHER conferences both in non-conference games and bowl games the last 10 years. What about this fact the SEC has won 13 of the 23 BCS titles (56.5%) with 5 different SEC teams have at least 1 title? In that same 23 years The ACC has 5, the Big 10 2, the Big 12 2, and the Pac 12 1. You and chino both want to claim the only dominance the SEC has is Alabama when the FACT is if you take Alabama's titles away the SEC still has 2 more BCS titles by 4 different teams than ANY OTHER conference! So quit trying to say that if it wasn't for Alabama the SEC wouldn't be DOMINANT because they OBVIOUSLY still are. How many of those titles did Bama win vs the rest of the SEC? I guess you didn't bother to read my other posts fully because I've already posted it but here it is again. The bottom line 5 different SEC teams have won titles and if you take away all of Alabama's BCS titles the SEC still has 7 of them which is still more than any other conference by itself. Tennessee - 1 LSU - 3 Florida - 2 Auburn - 1 5 SEC teams with 13 titles since the BCS started. The ACC is the closest to it with 5 total titles between 3 schools. That is DOMINANCE whether you want to admit it or not.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 30, 2021 13:07:18 GMT -6
I will concede the SEC is stronger mainly because of a core of four teams who are always in contention if you take a 10 year average (Bama, LSU, UGA and Florida) ... I only suggested the SEC is not this monster to be afraid of that is portrayed by the media because of how the narrative gets framed like right now when all the media days and football magazines come out. In other words you take an Ole Miss or Miss State and put them in the Big 12, they will not dominate. You put A&M back in the Big 12 or in the PAC 12 or Big 10, they will not dominate. That's how the media and folks like you describe the SEC when their have been years in the last decade where even Florida, UGA and LSU would struggle in some of the other power conferences. UGA came within two points of losing to Nichols State at home in 2016. That program barely survives and plays to get its butt whooped early for funding! They almost make it sound like Vandy could win the Big 12 or Big 10. You all get the early season hype when most to SEC plays the the Little Debbie Academy, Has Been State, and Cotton Candy U. So everyone enters the conference race with those high rankings made in the PRE SEASON intact and start beating up on each other. But the Media turns around and uses those rankings to justify keeping all the team ranked highly no matter if an Ole Miss gets pounded by Bama , they get to keep the higher ranking and then narrative gets set that everyone else is beating up on each other with their high rankings and they keep them their because of this..... and THEN.... a sorry ass team like Texas shows up at the Sugar Bowl and beats UGA who was butthurt about not getting invited to the playoffs gets beat in all phases of the game and the excuses a mile high come rolling in. BTW that was the same year Bama got dog stomped and spit out by Clemson, but that goes down the memory hole when these discussion come up. It's really not that difficult to understand. I've never claimed Ole Miss, Miss St, or A&M would dominate the big 12 so don't try and put those words in my mouth. The bottom line is one team has DOMINATED the big 12 the last 8-10 years and you know that I'm pretty sure. Even the year UT managed to beat them they turned around and lost to OU in the conference title game. Now if UT cannot win the Big 12 with some regularity and has a losing record the last 10 years against OU, OK ST, & TCU, what makes you think they are going to be anything but another Ole Miss, Miss St, or A&M in the SEC? It's been 16 years since they won it, not 6 and they've not had a whole lot since. And quit making it sound like the SEC is the only conference that schedules cupcakes for non-conference when your Longhorns do the same thing every year at least once, sometime twice. Since 2011 here are a few I can name..... Rice Wyoming New Mexico New Mexico St North TX UTEP San Jose St Tulsa LA Tech I never said Texas doesn't schedule a few. They all do! But put those up compared to ACU, Tarleton State, Kent State, South Carolina State, The Citadel, PVAM, Texas Southern, Nichols State, Sam Houston. And with all due respect to those programs....
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 30, 2021 15:36:04 GMT -6
Alright... I'm done with this Clemensbuff if I were up closer to you I'd say lets go have a couple at Guadalupe Brewing Company and bash OU sucks!
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 2, 2021 6:21:19 GMT -6
Alright... I'm done with this Clemensbuff if I were up closer to you I'd say lets go have a couple at Guadalupe Brewing Company and bash OU sucks! I'd buy the cold beer.........at Guadalupe Brewing. Glad it is a done deal and the vote was 14-0. I truly hope UT just pays the buy out and we see some UT/SEC ballgames this year already. Man that would be great
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Post by OCCNH on Aug 2, 2021 7:05:42 GMT -6
Alright... I'm done with this Clemensbuff if I were up closer to you I'd say lets go have a couple at Guadalupe Brewing Company and bash OU sucks! I'd buy the cold beer.........at Guadalupe Brewing. Glad it is a done deal and the vote was 14-0. I truly hope UT just pays the buy out and we see some UT/SEC ballgames this year already. Man that would be great I doubt it happens this year
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Post by picodegallo on Aug 2, 2021 7:31:10 GMT -6
Alright... I'm done with this Clemensbuff if I were up closer to you I'd say lets go have a couple at Guadalupe Brewing Company and bash OU sucks! I'd buy the cold beer.........at Guadalupe Brewing. Glad it is a done deal and the vote was 14-0. I truly hope UT just pays the buy out and we see some UT/SEC ballgames this year already. Man that would be great I think the odds of this happening in 2022 are pretty good. It would be hard for UT and OU to go around to this fall to high school Juniors and undecided Seniors telling them they will be playing in a lame duck conference and you will have to wait until 2025 to play in the SEC. I'm sure the statements that came out last week about 2025 was something the Lawyers drew up .
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Post by Hounhound on Aug 2, 2021 15:52:22 GMT -6
Just read that Clemson and Florida State have asked about joining the SEC. This ain't over yet.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 3, 2021 5:11:17 GMT -6
I'd buy the cold beer.........at Guadalupe Brewing. Glad it is a done deal and the vote was 14-0. I truly hope UT just pays the buy out and we see some UT/SEC ballgames this year already. Man that would be great I doubt it happens this year The games....or the cold beer? If it is just the money to buy out and nothing else, I say it could happen. $70m to the Univ of TX is literally chump change and they know full well that will be made back up in short order in the SEC.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 3, 2021 5:16:06 GMT -6
Right now with the addition of UT & blOwU, the SEC now holds 15 of the 23 BCS titles with 7 different SEC teams having at least 1 of them. If Clemson and FL St join, that would be 19 of the 23 titles and 9 different National Champions. WOW
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Post by OCCNH on Aug 3, 2021 6:16:07 GMT -6
Right now with the addition of UT & blOwU, the SEC now holds 15 of the 23 BCS titles with 7 different SEC teams having at least 1 of them. If Clemson and FL St join, that would be 19 of the 23 titles and 9 different National Champions. WOW So that begs the question.....Is that a good thing? With the changes in students athletes being able to make their own money not sure this just doesn’t turn into a minor league for the NFL? Also this is going to widen the gap between the teams of the SEC and the rest of college football. Sure you still will have Ohio State, ND, Etc but the 2nd tier of teams like TCU, TT, Baylor etc will take a hit on money
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Post by flowtowntigers on Aug 3, 2021 8:17:57 GMT -6
What is going to happen is that 40-60 of the top D1 teams in terms of money are going to create super conferences to break away from the NCAA. Your less profitable programs will either fall to the wayside or join up in the Sunbelt, CUSA or WAC and remain part of the NCAA or similar governing body.
It will probably get to the point at least in football where the Team and Athletes are just school-sponsored not student-athletes, basically a club/minor league program for the University.
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