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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 13, 2023 14:38:22 GMT -6
We may be looking at CCVM, Miller, VW and VE all still playing each other next week.. Maybe so but doubtful. I look for 3 of the 4 to win. VE will have to play by far their best game of the year without a single mistake to beat North. And CCVM will have to play a good ball game as well because I think those are two pretty equally matched teams. VW should win and Miller should win. But, what if it is an all Dist 16 matchup next week. It is not likely either but not impossible. Miller is probably the biggest favorite by 12-14 points and then West by nearly the same. CCVM is only a 3-6 point favorite and VE is about a 10 point underdog
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 13, 2023 14:45:30 GMT -6
Anyone who thinks Vic. East would beat Vela is delusional,McMemorial? maybe.How did the Raiders do against all that Region III type speed (according to some here) Miller had last year?Raiders return essentially the same team,only with more playoff game experience & strength .Don’t like predicting a blowout,but North should win comfortably. This is 2023, not 2022 and Vela is NOT nearly as good as last year so throw that garbage away already, wake up and smell the coffee. North blasted them and you want to come in here and tell us how they've improved since then yet the truth is they've played NOBODY since that game. Not a single team over 500. North is a damn good team this year and should win this region. Hell, Miller has 4a numbers man and North has legit 5a D1 size. They SHOULD BE BETTER AND BEAT MILLER, right? I've watched 3 North games and they are a good team but they WOULD NOT smell the R4 title this year if SV wasn't kicked out and into R3. That you better believe. A healthy Wagner would have also handed them a loss as well! We've heard all of this talk before from RGV fans when they have a good team but can you tell me when the last time was that any 5a or 6a team from there won the region? I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer but reality is reality. North has a very good shot at changing it this year IMO. Now lets see if they can do it.
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Post by AledoAlumni on Nov 13, 2023 14:56:28 GMT -6
Anyone who thinks Vic. East would beat Vela is delusional,McMemorial? maybe.How did the Raiders do against all that Region III type speed (according to some here) Miller had last year?Raiders return essentially the same team,only with more playoff game experience & strength .Don’t like predicting a blowout,but North should win comfortably. This is 2023, not 2022 and Vela is NOT nearly as good as last year so throw that garbage away already, wake up and smell the coffee. North blasted them and you want to come in here and tell us how they've improved since then yet the truth is they've played NOBODY since that game. Not a single team over 500. North is a damn good team this year and should win this region. Hell, Miller has 4a numbers man and North has legit 5a D1 size. They SHOULD BE BETTER AND BEAT MILLER, right? I've watched 3 North games and they are a good team but they WOULD NOT smell the R4 title this year if SV wasn't kicked out and into R3. That you better believe. A healthy Wagner would have also handed them a loss as well! We've heard all of this talk before from RGV fans when they have a good team but can you tell me when the last time was that any 5a or 6a team from there won the region? I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer but reality is reality. North has a very good shot at changing it this year IMO. Now lets see if they can do it. Crushing hopes and dreams man lol.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 13, 2023 15:02:21 GMT -6
This is 2023, not 2022 and Vela is NOT nearly as good as last year so throw that garbage away already, wake up and smell the coffee. North blasted them and you want to come in here and tell us how they've improved since then yet the truth is they've played NOBODY since that game. Not a single team over 500. North is a damn good team this year and should win this region. Hell, Miller has 4a numbers man and North has legit 5a D1 size. They SHOULD BE BETTER AND BEAT MILLER, right? I've watched 3 North games and they are a good team but they WOULD NOT smell the R4 title this year if SV wasn't kicked out and into R3. That you better believe. A healthy Wagner would have also handed them a loss as well! We've heard all of this talk before from RGV fans when they have a good team but can you tell me when the last time was that any 5a or 6a team from there won the region? I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer but reality is reality. North has a very good shot at changing it this year IMO. Now lets see if they can do it. Crushing hopes and dreams man lol. Not at all. I'm all about North winning the region and I do believe they are the best R4 has to offer. I'm just being truthful in what I said. Until it happens there will be a ton of doubters including myself and for good reason. I just don't like North's chances against the R3 rep at all. SV's defense would handle them and I think Fulshear and College Stations overall team speed and size would be too much. SV's D would feast of a single dimension offense like they have.
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 15:22:43 GMT -6
Vets has not been good against the run this season. Carroll had 170 on Vic East and Vic West had over 250, too. Moody had 240. Miller had 450. GP had 520. I’d put North in the category of being better running the ball than GP or Miller. North will surely be north of 300 rushing, and probably north of 400 or 500, in this game. Moody did not have 240 on them... they had one back that had 92 yards and 1 back that had 70 another had around 50... on 46 carries total or 4.6 ypc ... and they won that game 49-0... Carroll had 160 on them... would have been 165 but they held one back to -5 rushing yards. Again that was on 34 attempts... 4.7 ypc.. yes West had 251 on them... but that was on 48 carries or 5.2 ypc... so still not terrible... but not good either on that part for that game I will admit. I will also say that Miller, Vets, GP, West, Carroll, NBC, and Taft are all better quality opponents than North has had with the exception of possibly Vela their entire season... North has not played a quality team worthy of holding Miller's jock strap all season, much less Canyon's, Vets', or West's... MaxPreps says Moody's 4 backs had the following... 80+90+50+20... that equals 240 in my math world. And that's Moody... a 2-8 team in a "bad" district. Carroll also had 170 per MaxPreps... look it up. Then there's the other 3 (West, Miller, and GP) that ran well or wild. I saw Vic East in person against Carroll. We totally schit the bed in the passing game, otherwise the offense looked decent. VE was nothing special. They're about to get steam rolled into oblivion.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 13, 2023 15:29:21 GMT -6
Moody did not have 240 on them... they had one back that had 92 yards and 1 back that had 70 another had around 50... on 46 carries total or 4.6 ypc ... and they won that game 49-0... Carroll had 160 on them... would have been 165 but they held one back to -5 rushing yards. Again that was on 34 attempts... 4.7 ypc.. yes West had 251 on them... but that was on 48 carries or 5.2 ypc... so still not terrible... but not good either on that part for that game I will admit. I will also say that Miller, Vets, GP, West, Carroll, NBC, and Taft are all better quality opponents than North has had with the exception of possibly Vela their entire season... North has not played a quality team worthy of holding Miller's jock strap all season, much less Canyon's, Vets', or West's... MaxPreps says Moody's 4 backs had the following... 80+90+50+20... that equals 240 in my math world. And that's Moody... a 2-8 team in a "bad" district. Carroll also had 170 per MaxPreps... look it up. Then there's the other 3 (West, Miller, and GP) that ran well or wild. I saw Vic East in person against Carroll. We totally schit the bed in the passing game, otherwise the offense looked decent. VE was nothing special. They're about to get steam rolled into oblivion. Does MP tell you when those yards came in teh game? Was VE out front when a lot of them happened against backups?? I mean come on man, they beat moody 49-0 it isn't like it was a tight game. lmao VE also beat CCVM, didn't they and held them to 10 points? But yet here you are talking about North like they are the Georgia Bulldogs. smdh
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Post by Saltydog on Nov 13, 2023 15:59:34 GMT -6
MaxPreps says Moody's 4 backs had the following... 80+90+50+20... that equals 240 in my math world. And that's Moody... a 2-8 team in a "bad" district. Carroll also had 170 per MaxPreps... look it up. Then there's the other 3 (West, Miller, and GP) that ran well or wild. I saw Vic East in person against Carroll. We totally schit the bed in the passing game, otherwise the offense looked decent. VE was nothing special. They're about to get steam rolled into oblivion. Does MP tell you when those yards came in teh game? Was VE out front when a lot of them happened against backups?? I mean come on man, they beat moody 49-0 it isn't like it was a tight game. lmao VE also beat CCVM, didn't they and held them to 10 points? But yet here you are talking about North like they are the Georgia Bulldogs. smdh He is still butt hurt that East spanked both Carroll and Vets East is a young team more spankings to come next year if they play again.
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 16:35:19 GMT -6
MaxPreps says Moody's 4 backs had the following... 80+90+50+20... that equals 240 in my math world. And that's Moody... a 2-8 team in a "bad" district. Carroll also had 170 per MaxPreps... look it up. Then there's the other 3 (West, Miller, and GP) that ran well or wild. I saw Vic East in person against Carroll. We totally schit the bed in the passing game, otherwise the offense looked decent. VE was nothing special. They're about to get steam rolled into oblivion. Does MP tell you when those yards came in teh game? Was VE out front when a lot of them happened against backups?? I mean come on man, they beat moody 49-0 it isn't like it was a tight game. lmao VE also beat CCVM, didn't they and held them to 10 points? But yet here you are talking about North like they are the Georgia Bulldogs. smdh That CC Vets game was eh. 3 td's by Vets were erased by penalties and it came right after a tough loss to Miller. Plus the #1 player on the team went down to injury during the game. All of that contributed to the anomalous offensive output by Vets. But hang your hat on that if you want to. It did happen, 14-10.
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Post by warcat82 on Nov 13, 2023 16:51:55 GMT -6
Those Scooby-Doo hallucinogenics again... phantom flags, Vets didn't Vets, blah blah blah... vets let them win for an easier road in the play offs, it was all planned, they planned it that way... yadda yadda yadda... they had to make the best player ger hurt so that it'd be more believable... what other excuses can we use...
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 17:14:18 GMT -6
Those Scooby-Doo hallucinogenics again... phantom flags, Vets didn't Vets, blah blah blah... vets let them win for an easier road in the play offs, it was all planned, they planned it that way... yadda yadda yadda... they had to make the best player ger hurt so that it'd be more believable... what other excuses can we use... I don’t buy any conspiracies. Vets played to win. What I do buy is that after the only 2 losses to Miller in Vets history… in the following game, Vets scored 6 points and 10 points. Given that Vets entire history on offense probably has them somewhere north of 40 points per game on offense… that’s weird. Just saying. There is some sort of weird voodoo magic that Miller losses put on the Eagles.
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Post by chiller15 on Nov 13, 2023 19:34:44 GMT -6
Nope Not seeing that kind of blowout at all and neither are the computers! How do you come up with this crap when............. North only beat Mc Mem 27-7 and Vela 30-0??? Sorry, but those two teams are not any kind great 5a D1 teams. VE would handle Mc Mem easily and I think they'd even beat Vela. Come on man. North only beat a bad Donna team 45-7. I watched that game and Donna was NOT good at all. Matchups. Vic East isn't great against the run. All North does is run... and they'll run wild. Offensively, Vic East doesn't have the overall skill to challenge North. They have individual skill that will get his, but that's it. Does North have a passing threat like Miller, CC Vets, GP, VW, Taft, or NBC? If not this could help East run defense which has improved considerably this season. And what do you mean by East does not have the overall skill offensively to challenge North?
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 19:58:24 GMT -6
Matchups. Vic East isn't great against the run. All North does is run... and they'll run wild. Offensively, Vic East doesn't have the overall skill to challenge North. They have individual skill that will get his, but that's it. Does North have a passing threat like Miller, CC Vets, GP, VW, Taft, or NBC? If not this could help East run defense which has improved considerably this season. And what do you mean by East does not have the overall skill offensively to challenge North? Yes, they have a qb that can toss the ball around. He’s pretty decent, along with athletic receivers. But they don’t need to pass in this game, and in my opinion, they shouldn’t try to. Any in my assessment of VE’s overall offense, I don’t see enough at qb nor receiver nor rb that presents an advantage over the Raider defense. At best it’s a stalemate. But honestly, I have the North defense with the advantage over the East offense, in general, at all positions. The one weapon that Vic East has that North can’t matchup with is Prater. But it’s not like he’s getting 20 touches a game. Hell score a couple td’s, in aggregate, with his handful of touches… but that’s just not enough to win. East will have to match North score for score because in my assessment, North will score on every single one of their possessions. They won’t punt because they won’t need to. And I just don’t believe East will be able to score on all their possessions. I actually only see 2 td’s happening for East, possibly 3… but that’s it. I’ve seen this beast that is PSJA North in person. They’re big. They’re mean. They’re athletic. And they fight you til the bitter end. If you don’t have a run defense that will get them to try other things, you just don’t stand a chance. And Vic East doesn’t have that run defense.
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Post by chiller15 on Nov 13, 2023 21:06:32 GMT -6
Does North have a passing threat like Miller, CC Vets, GP, VW, Taft, or NBC? If not this could help East run defense which has improved considerably this season. And what do you mean by East does not have the overall skill offensively to challenge North? Yes, they have a qb that can toss the ball around. He’s pretty decent, along with athletic receivers. But they don’t need to pass in this game, and in my opinion, they shouldn’t try to. Any in my assessment of VE’s overall offense, I don’t see enough at qb nor receiver nor rb that presents an advantage over the Raider defense. At best it’s a stalemate. But honestly, I have the North defense with the advantage over the East offense, in general, at all positions. The one weapon that Vic East has that North can’t matchup with is Prater. But it’s not like he’s getting 20 touches a game. Hell score a couple td’s, in aggregate, with his handful of touches… but that’s just not enough to win. East will have to match North score for score because in my assessment, North will score on every single one of their possessions. They won’t punt because they won’t need to. And I just don’t believe East will be able to score on all their possessions. I actually only see 2 td’s happening for East, possibly 3… but that’s it. I’ve seen this beast that is PSJA North in person. They’re big. They’re mean. They’re athletic. And they fight you til the bitter end. If you don’t have a run defense that will get them to try other things, you just don’t stand a chance. And Vic East doesn’t have that run defense. imo you don't give East offense any love. Ortega, Salazar, Vasquez, Steele, Williams just to name a few can take it to the house on any given play. Kolle ain't no slouch and is a tough Sophomore QB! Just ask Coach Evans, he'll tell ya! East offensive line is pretty thick and they have a good coach that has taught them well this year. As far as North not needing to throw the ball, we'll see about that! North is more experienced and deeper than East no doubt about it ........ They have good coaches and are very disciplined. A challenge Coach Reeve and his staff are excited about, I'm certain!
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 22:31:59 GMT -6
Yes, they have a qb that can toss the ball around. He’s pretty decent, along with athletic receivers. But they don’t need to pass in this game, and in my opinion, they shouldn’t try to. Any in my assessment of VE’s overall offense, I don’t see enough at qb nor receiver nor rb that presents an advantage over the Raider defense. At best it’s a stalemate. But honestly, I have the North defense with the advantage over the East offense, in general, at all positions. The one weapon that Vic East has that North can’t matchup with is Prater. But it’s not like he’s getting 20 touches a game. Hell score a couple td’s, in aggregate, with his handful of touches… but that’s just not enough to win. East will have to match North score for score because in my assessment, North will score on every single one of their possessions. They won’t punt because they won’t need to. And I just don’t believe East will be able to score on all their possessions. I actually only see 2 td’s happening for East, possibly 3… but that’s it. I’ve seen this beast that is PSJA North in person. They’re big. They’re mean. They’re athletic. And they fight you til the bitter end. If you don’t have a run defense that will get them to try other things, you just don’t stand a chance. And Vic East doesn’t have that run defense. imo you don't give East offense any love. Ortega, Salazar, Vasquez, Steele, Williams just to name a few can take it to the house on any given play. Kolle ain't no slouch and is a tough Sophomore QB! Just ask Coach Evans, he'll tell ya! East offensive line is pretty thick and they have a good coach that has taught them well this year. As far as North not needing to throw the ball, we'll see about that! North is more experienced and deeper than East no doubt about it ........ They have good coaches and are very disciplined. A challenge Coach Reeve and his staff are excited about, I'm certain! I could be wrong… I’ve been wrong many times before! LOL And I hope Vic East surprises me and shocks the region in Round 2… The Titans are the team I’m hoping wins. But my mind says that PSJAN is just too much. They’re actually currently a 6A school with the number they turned in if I’m not mistaken.
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Post by chiller15 on Nov 13, 2023 22:46:48 GMT -6
imo you don't give East offense any love. Ortega, Salazar, Vasquez, Steele, Williams just to name a few can take it to the house on any given play. Kolle ain't no slouch and is a tough Sophomore QB! Just ask Coach Evans, he'll tell ya! East offensive line is pretty thick and they have a good coach that has taught them well this year. As far as North not needing to throw the ball, we'll see about that! North is more experienced and deeper than East no doubt about it ........ They have good coaches and are very disciplined. A challenge Coach Reeve and his staff are excited about, I'm certain! I could be wrong… I’ve been wrong many times before! LOL And I hope Vic East surprises me and shocks the region in Round 2… The Titans are the team I’m hoping wins. But my mind says that PSJAN is just too much. They’re actually currently a 6A school with the number they turned in if I’m not mistaken. Tall task for VE for sure, but c'mon man they took down THE MIGHTY CC VETS! Lol..... All bs aside, North is the favorite for a reason, I'm just excited to see how these young Titans handle themselves this Friday!
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