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Post by picodegallo on Nov 16, 2022 13:54:02 GMT -6
Good video, but can you tell us how you really feel?? LOL. Don't always wish for different when you don't know what different is. Atwood can be 10 times better than a new hire... there's no guarantee. IF and that's a BIG IF, someone else is sniffing around... and that dude is a for sure upgrade... then yes, maybe pull the trigger. With the dumpster fire that the Alice school officials/board/super/whatever is perceived to be by the coaching world... what are y'all really going to attract? In Atwood you have a known quantity. He brings energy and excitement, and the kids seem to love him. 2022 was a heck of a season! What really did y'all in? Not coaching in my humble opinion. It was weather. Could coaching decisions have helped? Surely yes, especially moving the game to Thursday (blowout Alice win in my opinion if it's a Thursday game). But you gotta dance with the girl you brought. Can't change EVERYTHING on the fly on gameday... but yes, Alice could have tried to run more. That said. What pisses me off the most about this loss... Y'all jacked up my bracket!!! I had Alice in Round 5. You do know why many of the Alice peeps on here and Facebook are angry at Atwood and it wasn't just because of what occurred last Friday? The kids "might" like him, but many were still in middle school or grade school when he first showed up in Alice and almost immediately started looking for other jobs. So yea you can't not blame the fans and Alums on here for having their fill of seeing things end ugly or underachieving in previous seasons. |
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 16, 2022 15:07:51 GMT -6
Good video, but can you tell us how you really feel?? LOL. Don't always wish for different when you don't know what different is. Atwood can be 10 times better than a new hire... there's no guarantee. IF and that's a BIG IF, someone else is sniffing around... and that dude is a for sure upgrade... then yes, maybe pull the trigger. With the dumpster fire that the Alice school officials/board/super/whatever is perceived to be by the coaching world... what are y'all really going to attract? In Atwood you have a known quantity. He brings energy and excitement, and the kids seem to love him. 2022 was a heck of a season! What really did y'all in? Not coaching in my humble opinion. It was weather. Could coaching decisions have helped? Surely yes, especially moving the game to Thursday (blowout Alice win in my opinion if it's a Thursday game). But you gotta dance with the girl you brought. Can't change EVERYTHING on the fly on gameday... but yes, Alice could have tried to run more. That said. What pisses me off the most about this loss... Y'all jacked up my bracket!!! I had Alice in Round 5. You do know why many of the Alice peeps on here and Facebook are angry at Atwood and it wasn't just because of what occurred last Friday? The kids "might" like him, but many were still in middle school or grade school when he first showed up in Alice and almost immediately started looking for other jobs. So yea you can't not blame the fans and Alums on here for having their fill of seeing things end ugly or underachieving in previous seasons. Yeah I know the history. Just saying you know what you have. You don't know what you don't have... and sometimes when you get what you thought you wanted... it's not what you wanted at all. |
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Post by Cochino on Nov 16, 2022 15:41:28 GMT -6
Good video, but can you tell us how you really feel?? LOL. Don't always wish for different when you don't know what different is. Atwood can be 10 times better than a new hire... there's no guarantee. IF and that's a BIG IF, someone else is sniffing around... and that dude is a for sure upgrade... then yes, maybe pull the trigger. With the dumpster fire that the Alice school officials/board/super/whatever is perceived to be by the coaching world... what are y'all really going to attract? In Atwood you have a known quantity. He brings energy and excitement, and the kids seem to love him. 2022 was a heck of a season! What really did y'all in? Not coaching in my humble opinion. It was weather. Could coaching decisions have helped? Surely yes, especially moving the game to Thursday (blowout Alice win in my opinion if it's a Thursday game). But you gotta dance with the girl you brought. Can't change EVERYTHING on the fly on gameday... but yes, Alice could have tried to run more. That said. What pisses me off the most about this loss... Y'all jacked up my bracket!!! I had Alice in Round 5. Yes the weather, BUT like I point out in the video our backup QB was already getting reps even last year as a freshman and he's a really good runner with the ball. A decision could have been made to see what he could do. Calhoun knew the starter was not gonna run and he obviously couldn't throw either with that weather. |
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Post by aic on Nov 16, 2022 16:26:20 GMT -6
Sucks that another Coyote season ends with another underwhelming result under Atwood ..I don’t really have anything to add to what’s been said already …AISD is a joke and looks like they are okay with the program being mediocre … if there was ever a season to make a deep playoff run and get some momentum behind the Coyote football program again and excite the city and fans with a deep run and add to that rich Coyote tradition…THIS WAS THE SEASON!!! The circumstances were there for a special season with all the talent the coyotes had plus the weak ass district …but even then the program stumbles towards the end and can’t even get out of the 1st round … unbelievable… Atwood has to go !! … the program is a shell of what it used to be under Atwood … The whole program needs a makeover .. starting with a new coach all the way down to the uniforms … i can’t stand those ugly ass grey and orange color schemes on the uniforms and weak Alabama logo that Atwood has implemented.. it’s all gotta go
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Post by catfromwayback on Nov 16, 2022 17:24:11 GMT -6
Ultimately it's the citizens of Alice, the voters that are to blame. School board members are elected by the voters and then everything else on down is controlled by them. My question would be "why do y'all keep voting in school board members that continue to allow AISD to circle closer and closer to the drain"? Keep voting the same way, keep getting the same results. It's a tired old story. Might be time to quit voting for people just because of their last name and actually vote for the ones that can actually do the job before it gets so out of hand that no quality candidates will even bother to run and move their families away. The tipping point appears to be here.
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Post by coyotetime on Nov 16, 2022 19:52:19 GMT -6
Ticket sales aren't great either. So many empty seats during the regular season and playoffs during Atwood time as HC.
He's driven away a lot of fans.
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Post by Javy2005 on Nov 17, 2022 12:13:02 GMT -6
A D line that doesnt give up 387 yards rushing would be a start. Maybe some fans that dont ruin forums and attack women. Coaches need to focus on the teams infront of them and not look too much ahead. Hey but one nice things they bring back are shinny new helmets! lol G-P played 3 good teams this season. Lost all 3. About to face your 4th good team and lose that one also. You're in no position to run your mouth. But hey, at least you got new blue jerseys lol. Those new blue uniforms look like the Buffalo Bills |
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Post by Javy2005 on Nov 17, 2022 12:22:59 GMT -6
I know lots of coaches read this stuff in here and social media and anywhere else and immediately roll their eyes and think wtf do these nobodies know?. I get it. But not everything requires years of coaching experience and there is no "coaching degree" to be what they are. You learn on the job and through experience and some stuff is just common sense not analytics and experience. Everyone knew what the weather situation was gonna be for the Alice/Calhoun game at kickoff time. Anyone with a brain knew Alice was not gonna be able to pass as usual. So for those of you that don't know, Alice has a backup QB #10 that is really good at running with the ball. He's only a sophomore but was already getting reps last season as a freshman on Varsity. When the game started and Alice's coach saw that they weren't gonna be able to pass into a f-ing hurricane and at the same time that our running game was working really well, then a decision could have been made to go with the backup QB #10. Calhoun knew QB #6 was not gonna run and he had wide open area to run almost all game. As a coach you sit down QB #6 and explain that we are going with QB #10 because we are not gonna be able to pass this game and we will go back to you next week when the weather isn't like this. That seems like common sense in doing what is best for the team and doesn't require years of coaching experience to see this. It also seems like common sense that when you score a TD to close the score to within 9 points and there is ONLY 4 F-ing minutes left in the game then YOU F-ING ONSIDE KICK THE BALL. Alice didn't. That is what you call CHOKING. Choking isn't something that only players do, it happens to coaches also. All this talent the last 2 years and they are 11-10 with no playoffs last year and a 1st round exit to a 3-7 team this season. Holy chit man enough is enough. funny how you say 2 different qbs and their different styles, but I do remember them having 1 Qb that could do both pass and run. Last year as a sophomore he played great, could’ve been the starter this year, and he would’ve been returning next year too. A potential 3 year starting dual threat Qb and instead went with a junior semi passer last year and a SENIOR who battled injuries his whole career in OG. I’m pissed as an Alice coyote fan. I feel for the kids and had higher expectations for this team. That QB that started at the beginning of last year would’ve played a key role last Friday, I know I may’ve overstated some stuff last season that I’ve regretted since when it was coaching …. I wish he would’ve stayed on but can’t change that. I feel the exact same & the expectations was high like the 2 buildings by the Harbor Bridge in C.C. then for the coaches to screw that up ….. I feel for the kids & especially for the 32 seniors |
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Post by Javy2005 on Nov 17, 2022 13:28:27 GMT -6
Last Friday’s game gave me nightmares for the past few days. How did this season abruptly end with unsolved reasons was it due to the weather (Mother Nature), getting out-coached, politics & whatnot …. I say’d it’s the above. We had high hopes with our boys winning last week with the best roster since the years of 85, 98 & 08 & what did Atwood do he pissed the game down & to get out-coached by one of the best coaches in the Coastal Bend/Victoria Crossroads (who’s mentored by a Texas Legend coach in Bill Smith) with his mismanagements. Atwood didn’t run any formations like he did 2 years ago when he ran that 2 back set with the tight end on the strong side with one receiver left & right or that pistol set that we ran vs Victoria West like didn’t Atwood not go over what he ran this season & he wasted a timeout on a 4th down with a unsuccessful pass play this bullcrap wouldn’t happen on Boyd, Bush, Whatley, Davis & Soza (Evans if he hadn’t left after a year) & not to mention if we had that QB that left the team earlier before practices started this summer he could’ve been a key component with that dual threat tools but Atwood’s damn selfish pride & defensively what the hell was the DC’s game plan to stop that triple option we had the size, speed & discipline to keep them off the field & every time when the defensive line shift they’d audible to something else to get us off with that Texas Tech (pass defense) style defense we run & we waste a timeout with the last 2 minutes of the game we thought they were gonna punt & to be fooled with a screen pass or whatever Whit outsmarted us with …. Totally absurd & dumbfounded! How long are we gonna keep Atwood & on a leash with his managements & whatnot, I mean how long is the school board is gonna get this through their heads make this clear that these “Jekyll & Hyde”years after the 2017 season is enough (puro suficiente) already but the school board & that superintendent who’s just as worst as the one who crashed Ben Bolt down is what’s keeping Atwood as HC on their watch for so long. Since Herrera retired the school district’s been outright atrocious & a joke since and they want the Alice community to vote. I don’t know about them so call Atwood supporters & as far as I’m concerned I’m totally DONE with Coach Atwood as HC
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Post by proscout on Nov 18, 2022 10:58:31 GMT -6
It took a week and I finally had time to digest this loss. I don't live in Alice but still have family there. Yes, Alice is a football town and how the football team goes, so goes the town. I get it. But the vibe I get isn't the doom and gloom that's painted on here. Are there somethings that could be better?? Different? Of course, but look around and every school district in the state and you have to same issues. I think many times, we lack perspective and fail to see what is right in front of us. Lets be honest. If we had all the answers, we'd be coaching or we'd be running for school board. We're all has beens who spend our free time playing arm chair coach. I am not an Atwood apologist, at all. But here are the facts... since he arrived as athletic director, girls volleyball made the playoffs, boys and girls basketball has made the playoffs, girls powerlifting won state, cross country has had a representative at state for the past 3 years, softball and baseball made the playoffs, boys and girls soccer has made the playoffs, the track team has been to state. I will challenge you to name a time when the athletic department as a whole has seen this much success. Just look at the twitter pages of some of the student athletes and they personally thank the coaches for their support and guidance. The end of the season hurt but as a whole, the season was pretty solid. They beat two 5A playoff teams, gave Calallen their only test all year, the blowouts of the valley teams gave the younger get some playing time, the sub varsity teams all had winning records, and of course...made the playoffs. Unfortunately, Alice ran into the buzzsaw that is the Calhoun Sandcrabs. I happen to think Alice gave Calhoun a better game than Canyon Lake did, but thats just me. A say all this to say...be careful what you wish for. If Atwood leaves, either by choice or if he's forced out, do you really think another quality AD is going to look at the success Atwood had and still get beat up by public perception. You might get another coach who uses Alice as a step stone for a high profile job. Which, as a result, leaves not only the football team, but the athletic department in constant rebuild mode. Look no further than Calallen, Refugio, PLC to name of few. You know why those programs are so successful? Many reasons, but the underlying issue that no one talks about.... STABILITY.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 18, 2022 11:12:25 GMT -6
It took a week and I finally had time to digest this loss. I don't live in Alice but still have family there. Yes, Alice is a football town and how the football team goes, so goes the town. I get it. But the vibe I get isn't the doom and gloom that's painted on here. Are there somethings that could be better?? Different? Of course, but look around and every school district in the state and you have to same issues. I think many times, we lack perspective and fail to see what is right in front of us. Lets be honest. If we had all the answers, we'd be coaching or we'd be running for school board. We're all has beens who spend our free time playing arm chair coach. I am not an Atwood apologist, at all. But here are the facts... since he arrived as athletic director, girls volleyball made the playoffs, boys and girls basketball has made the playoffs, girls powerlifting won state, cross country has had a representative at state for the past 3 years, softball and baseball made the playoffs, boys and girls soccer has made the playoffs, the track team has been to state. I will challenge you to name a time when the athletic department as a whole has seen this much success. Just look at the twitter pages of some of the student athletes and they personally thank the coaches for their support and guidance. The end of the season hurt but as a whole, the season was pretty solid. They beat two 5A playoff teams, gave Calallen their only test all year, the blowouts of the valley teams gave the younger get some playing time, the sub varsity teams all had winning records, and of course...made the playoffs. Unfortunately, Alice ran into the buzzsaw that is the Calhoun Sandcrabs. I happen to think Alice gave Calhoun a better game than Canyon Lake did, but thats just me. A say all this to say...be careful what you wish for. If Atwood leaves, either by choice or if he's forced out, do you really think another quality AD is going to look at the success Atwood had and still get beat up by public perception. You might get another coach who uses Alice as a step stone for a high profile job. Which, as a result, leaves not only the football team, but the athletic department in constant rebuild mode. Look no further than Calallen, Refugio, PLC to name of few. You know why those programs are so successful? Many reasons, but the underlying issue that no one talks about.... STABILITY. OK, so maybe he should be the AD and hire a new HC then that doesn't choke games away by bad play calling and not using the athletes he has as he should? So, if Alice athletics is winning so much, where do they stand on the Lone Star Cup standings for 4a? I think this UIL Lone Star Cup is a great indicator of just how well rounded a school really is. I'll save you the time and tell you they are not in the top 25 of 4a this year. In R4 I see #4 Boerne, #8 Wimberley, E10 Calallen, #11 tie with T-M & Fredericksburg, #23 La Vernia www.uiltexas.org/lone-star-cup |
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Post by Cochino on Nov 18, 2022 13:43:22 GMT -6
It took a week and I finally had time to digest this loss. I don't live in Alice but still have family there. Yes, Alice is a football town and how the football team goes, so goes the town. I get it. But the vibe I get isn't the doom and gloom that's painted on here. Are there somethings that could be better?? Different? Of course, but look around and every school district in the state and you have to same issues. I think many times, we lack perspective and fail to see what is right in front of us. Lets be honest. If we had all the answers, we'd be coaching or we'd be running for school board. We're all has beens who spend our free time playing arm chair coach. I am not an Atwood apologist, at all. But here are the facts... since he arrived as athletic director, girls volleyball made the playoffs, boys and girls basketball has made the playoffs, girls powerlifting won state, cross country has had a representative at state for the past 3 years, softball and baseball made the playoffs, boys and girls soccer has made the playoffs, the track team has been to state. I will challenge you to name a time when the athletic department as a whole has seen this much success. Just look at the twitter pages of some of the student athletes and they personally thank the coaches for their support and guidance. The end of the season hurt but as a whole, the season was pretty solid. They beat two 5A playoff teams, gave Calallen their only test all year, the blowouts of the valley teams gave the younger get some playing time, the sub varsity teams all had winning records, and of course...made the playoffs. Unfortunately, Alice ran into the buzzsaw that is the Calhoun Sandcrabs. I happen to think Alice gave Calhoun a better game than Canyon Lake did, but thats just me. A say all this to say...be careful what you wish for. If Atwood leaves, either by choice or if he's forced out, do you really think another quality AD is going to look at the success Atwood had and still get beat up by public perception. You might get another coach who uses Alice as a step stone for a high profile job. Which, as a result, leaves not only the football team, but the athletic department in constant rebuild mode. Look no further than Calallen, Refugio, PLC to name of few. You know why those programs are so successful? Many reasons, but the underlying issue that no one talks about.... STABILITY. Are you with a straight face going to say Atwood is responsible for the success of all those other programs that he doesn't directly coach? And Calhoun was 3-7 not a "buzzsaw". The moment you referred to them as that you revealed that you absolutely are an Atwood apologist. Alice gave Calhoun a better game than Canyon Lake? So? Canyon Lake was also not a "buzzsaw". Stability? He's been applying to get out of Alice since at least 2019. I'm not trying to crap on your opinion but yes everything you typed sounds like you're an Atwood fanboy. Yes we're all has beens but as I said in one of my episodes some stuff is just common sense and not experience or analytics and some coaches do absolutely choke. A smart coach that doesn't feel obligated to friends and transfers would have absolutely made a QB move for the Calhoun game. There is a backup QB that can run and the conditions were such that Alice couldn't throw that night. A smart coach doesn't stay devoted to an ineffective D coordinator for 6 years just because they're family. I like Atwood he seems like a good person but my love is for the football program and my HC being a nice guy or not is irrelevant to anything. There's a reason Calallen needed a game saving interception to beat Alice with no time left on the clock. Alice was the "buzzsaw" not Port Lavaca. Alice got out-coached as we always do. |
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Post by marci on Nov 18, 2022 18:45:17 GMT -6
In this episode I rant on Alice/Calhoun 👀 and go over where I was right and wrong on all of last week's playoff matchup predictions🏈... I enjoyed your YouTube tv show. I think it is one of your best. I hope this makes you feel better. youtu.be/MgPC0Yu71Bc?list=RDMgPC0Yu71Bc |
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Post by Javy2005 on Nov 18, 2022 22:29:08 GMT -6
Good video, but can you tell us how you really feel?? LOL. Don't always wish for different when you don't know what different is. Atwood can be 10 times better than a new hire... there's no guarantee. IF and that's a BIG IF, someone else is sniffing around... and that dude is a for sure upgrade... then yes, maybe pull the trigger. With the dumpster fire that the Alice school officials/board/super/whatever is perceived to be by the coaching world... what are y'all really going to attract? In Atwood you have a known quantity. He brings energy and excitement, and the kids seem to love him. 2022 was a heck of a season! What really did y'all in? Not coaching in my humble opinion. It was weather. Could coaching decisions have helped? Surely yes, especially moving the game to Thursday (blowout Alice win in my opinion if it's a Thursday game). But you gotta dance with the girl you brought. Can't change EVERYTHING on the fly on gameday... but yes, Alice could have tried to run more. That said. What pisses me off the most about this loss... Y'all jacked up my bracket!!! I had Alice in Round 5. DUDE!!! I totally disagree with this bullcrap! This is pure DELUSIONAL for you defending & making excuses for a coach who can’t manage a clock with the game on the line while wasting timeouts in crucial situations to save his damn life which has Alice fans upset & as hell …. If you been to a Alice game during “The Atwood Era” coaching was a part of the reason for this loss he didn’t look back on the formations he ran 2 years ago or that pistol we ran vs Victoria West which could’ve help the run game honestly I’d rather get kick in the groin or dump by a girl than dance on a rainy …. Imagine if Cochino narrated his own 30 for 30 on the “2022 Alice Coyote Season” called “The year that was washed away” |
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Post by aic on Nov 18, 2022 22:36:02 GMT -6
LMAO at the “ be careful what you wish for posts “ in reference to Alice fans wanting Atwood out lol dude this is almost as bad as it gets .. mediocre /underachieving seasons , constantly missing the playoffs , losing records , giving up 70 plus points in games , coaches getting out coached ,no adjustments during games , 1st round exits, Players quitting , no player leadership , poor attendance by Alice fans , ugly uniforms and logo .. the list goes on … if this ain’t rock bottom it’s pretty close … I’d rather have a new coach come in and use Alice as a stepping stone for a few years and then Leave if it meant the program experienced a couple of successful / special seasons ( 2008 .. 1998..199 etc ) every now and then
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