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Post by warcat82 on Aug 24, 2013 19:18:42 GMT -6
Kingsville dropped in 1992 actually. We played them their 1st district game in 4A my senior year at TM and beat them... That coach they had loved running the pole cat formation... Alice dropped down in 1996 I believe because that year TM. Beat GP then GP beat Alice and Alice beat TM so GP and Alice went due to tiebreakers into the playoffs as 2nd and 3rd...
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Post by otter on Aug 26, 2013 10:17:56 GMT -6
Sorry but your comment is BS. It is a fact about PLCs population being a big percentage of Asian (that do not play sports) If your school does, in fact, have a large female population....they should attract a lot of big, strong, athletic boys to help out with your football team. If they don't attract them, maybe there is a reason. :-) Sorry, but the TEA's numbers say PLC is 5.5% Asian. I wouldn't call that a "large" Asian population. Fort Bend Clements is 43.1% Asian, Fort Bend Kempner is 33.2% Asian, Fort Bend Austin is 34.9% Asian, Fort Bend Dulles is 33.1% Asian -- THOSE are some large Asian populations. CHECKMATE
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Post by sandcrab79 on Aug 26, 2013 10:34:18 GMT -6
Sorry but your comment is BS. It is a fact about PLCs population being a big percentage of Asian (that do not play sports) If your school does, in fact, have a large female population....they should attract a lot of big, strong, athletic boys to help out with your football team. If they don't attract them, maybe there is a reason. :-) Sorry, but the TEA's numbers say PLC is 5.5% Asian. I wouldn't call that a "large" Asian population. Fort Bend Clements is 43.1% Asian, Fort Bend Kempner is 33.2% Asian, Fort Bend Austin is 34.9% Asian, Fort Bend Dulles is 33.1% Asian -- THOSE are some large Asian populations. I canassure you that the TEA's report of 5.5% Asain for PLC is WAY off. I go to the HS about twice a week for different reasons (Vollyball, Basketball games, presentations, etc.) i have walked the halls and seen the student body for several years running and 5.5% don't even get you past the C's in the alphabet. I don't know how they come up with that number but my guess is there is some kind of application. I'm saying it's not accurate, at least, not @ PLC. I learned a long time ago that you can't believe everything you read. I read once that Evil Knievel jumped the Grand Canyon. I've seen the Grand Canyon.... As a couple of other posters have pointed out, it's just an excuse, anyway...
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Post by danrut on Aug 26, 2013 11:51:28 GMT -6
Just want to make sure I know what Asians are. Does it include Taiwanese, Chinese and Vietnamese? If so, 5.5% of our 1050 is only 57-58 kids. We had more "Asians" as I define it (all 3 of the ethnic groups above)than that graduate last year. I will get a list of names that graduated last year and it will surprise me if we don't have at least 50 "Asian" names on it. And if you want to throw in the Burmese? Then add another 5-10 seniors last year.
I can only remember 3 or 4 Asian kids ever playing on PLC football teams over the years. And I would estimate our Asian population as closer to 20-22.5% than 5.5%.
No excuses, just putting it out there that the same as others put out there that they have other reasons their enrollment looks inflated. We all have these issues.
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Post by Tom on Aug 26, 2013 11:58:35 GMT -6
Sorry, but the TEA's numbers say PLC is 5.5% Asian. I wouldn't call that a "large" Asian population. Fort Bend Clements is 43.1% Asian, Fort Bend Kempner is 33.2% Asian, Fort Bend Austin is 34.9% Asian, Fort Bend Dulles is 33.1% Asian -- THOSE are some large Asian populations. I canassure you that the TEA's report of 5.5% Asain for PLC is WAY off. I go to the HS about twice a week for different reasons (Vollyball, Basketball games, presentations, etc.) i have walked the halls and seen the student body for several years running and 5.5% don't even get you past the C's in the alphabet. I don't know how they come up with that number but my guess is there is some kind of application. I'm saying it's not accurate, at least, not @ PLC. I learned a long time ago that you can't believe everything you read. I read once that Evil Knievel jumped the Grand Canyon. I've seen the Grand Canyon.... As a couple of other posters have pointed out, it's just an excuse, anyway... As far as I know the TEA gets their numbers from the school, which gets its numbers from the number of students who check the "Asian" box. So either your anecdotal evidence is wrong, or PLC has a whole bunch of Asian kids checking the "white" box.
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Post by Tom on Aug 26, 2013 12:00:41 GMT -6
Just want to make sure I know what Asians are. Does it include Taiwanese, Chinese and Vietnamese? If so, 5.5% of our 1050 is only 57-58 kids. We had more "Asians" as I define it (all 3 of the ethnic groups above)than that graduate last year. I will get a list of names that graduated last year and it will surprise me if we don't have at least 50 "Asian" names on it. And if you want to throw in the Burmese? Then add another 5-10 seniors last year. I can only remember 3 or 4 Asian kids ever playing on PLC football teams over the years. And I would estimate our Asian population as closer to 20-22.5% than 5.5%. No excuses, just putting it out there that the same as others put out there that they have other reasons their enrollment looks inflated. We all have these issues. All of those countries are in Asia, so yes, they're all considered "Asian" (as are South Asians and Middle Easterners, of which Fort Bend has a considerable amount.)
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Post by Purp on Aug 26, 2013 12:06:17 GMT -6
2010 US CENSUS Attachment Deletedi believe it says Port Lavaca has 6.1% asian population. You need to be careful when applying that percent to the asian population to the high school for many reasons. I wont get into that, but it is safe to say the High school asian population is with in a 1% +/- Edit: this is for the city of port Lavaca, not Calhoun county as a whole.
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Post by stangs95 on Aug 26, 2013 12:31:41 GMT -6
I managed in the Port Lavaca Walmart for awhile last year and out of 200 plus employees I don't remember any Asian employees. Also was not my favorite place to work as far as my career with Walmart. Nothing against the community though. I actually enjoyed all the hype around the high school sport programs. Meet many people and the coach while there. Have nothing but good things to say about him. He actually came in to the store to talk to about a kid who was quiting the team because his family couldn't afford to live without him working . We worked something out with his schedule so he could work and still play.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 26, 2013 14:49:23 GMT -6
PLC is not as low as fellow 30-4A Beeville Jones or Tuloso-Midway. A true statement. however only 90 students seperate Bee (@ #8 from the bottom) from PLC (@ #20 from bottom). I don't know the #'s but the other end of the 4A class is probably almost double our size...and that makes a BIG difference come playoff time. When it comes to schools like LT (2005-2010) they were on the bubble of moving up to 5A, I'd bet the # of students that tried out for football was close to the # of PLC's total student body. It translaltes to more #'s, depth (LT's 2nd stringers could easily start @ PLC) Not taking anything away from PLC, at all...It's just that we are fighting an uphill battle from the start. I'd like to see the classes be devided into D1 & D2 by cutting the class down the middle and let the upper 50% go D1 and the Lower 50% go D2. Seems to me it would be more fair. JMO 79, don't put too much stock in enrollment numbers! It is about participation numbers IMO and it sounds like PLC has great numbers there! Look, Steele is one of the smallest 5a schools out there but we have done well our first 3 years in 5a and I don't expect anything less this year. We have about 270 kids out there according to our head coach and that is pretty damn good for a school our size (2200+). I do agree with you on depth to a point to a degree but the only thing I think you really get out of the larger enrollment numbers are a bigger selection of 'raw athletes'. You build and mold football players and if you have 200+ in your program you can build depth. PLC has it going on right now and the kids are really involved as are the families and fans. That is what it takes to get it done! It doesn't matter how many kids you have, you still have to get lucky and Blessed to stay healthy to win the whole enchilada. Even huge 5a teams with great programs have a drop off from #1s to #2! Even Allen, SLC, etc!
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 26, 2013 14:51:09 GMT -6
You don't get it. Do you? They are NOT allowed to play by their parents. Bottom line. They are strictly school for education only. The Vietnamese* population however does participate. They are very americanized at this point This isn't exclusive to any particular ethnic group. Some parents of all races just don't want their sons playing football. There may not be too many parents like that in some towns, but I can guarantee they exist everywhere. Exactly Tom. It is not a racial thing at all IMO.
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Post by sandcrab79 on Aug 27, 2013 6:13:13 GMT -6
A true statement. however only 90 students seperate Bee (@ #8 from the bottom) from PLC (@ #20 from bottom). I don't know the #'s but the other end of the 4A class is probably almost double our size...and that makes a BIG difference come playoff time. When it comes to schools like LT (2005-2010) they were on the bubble of moving up to 5A, I'd bet the # of students that tried out for football was close to the # of PLC's total student body. It translaltes to more #'s, depth (LT's 2nd stringers could easily start @ PLC) Not taking anything away from PLC, at all...It's just that we are fighting an uphill battle from the start. I'd like to see the classes be devided into D1 & D2 by cutting the class down the middle and let the upper 50% go D1 and the Lower 50% go D2. Seems to me it would be more fair. JMO 79, don't put too much stock in enrollment numbers! It is about participation numbers IMO and it sounds like PLC has great numbers there! Look, Steele is one of the smallest 5a schools out there but we have done well our first 3 years in 5a and I don't expect anything less this year. We have about 270 kids out there according to our head coach and that is pretty damn good for a school our size (2200+). I do agree with you on depth to a point to a degree but the only thing I think you really get out of the larger enrollment numbers are a bigger selection of 'raw athletes'. You build and mold football players and if you have 200+ in your program you can build depth. PLC has it going on right now and the kids are really involved as are the families and fans. That is what it takes to get it done! It doesn't matter how many kids you have, you still have to get lucky and Blessed to stay healthy to win the whole enchilada. Even huge 5a teams with great programs have a drop off from #1s to #2! Even Allen, SLC, etc! 10-4 buff, I know PLC is doing well considering their #'s (close to the bottom of 4A) and without saying "recruiting" we are "attracting" players from other areas that are contributing on the football team....that will become evident this Thursday night in CC. There are lot of job opportunties in Calhoun County and even more on the horrizon.
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Post by flowtowntigers on Aug 27, 2013 14:59:40 GMT -6
Wow I expected Floresville to be in that group of the 20 smallest 4A's, but with 1166.5 the Tigers are still a small 4A school.
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Post by Purp on Aug 27, 2013 15:13:13 GMT -6
Wow I expected Floresville to be in that group of the 20 smallest 4A's, but with 1166.5 the Tigers are still a small 4A school. I for one was really upset to see floresville leave the district. You guys played your asses off and always had good sportsmanship. Really hated to run up against floresville last year in the play offs. Best of luck this year!! Sounds like y'all will be pretty good .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 7:01:30 GMT -6
Wow I expected Floresville to be in that group of the 20 smallest 4A's, but with 1166.5 the Tigers are still a small 4A school. I did too. I actually thought Floresville was smaller than Calhoun. Maybe they used to be? Was just playing around looking at the numbers and kind of shocked at what I saw. Thought ya'll might find it interesting as well.
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Post by Purp on Aug 29, 2013 7:54:31 GMT -6
Wow I expected Floresville to be in that group of the 20 smallest 4A's, but with 1166.5 the Tigers are still a small 4A school. I did too. I actually thought Floresville was smaller than Calhoun. Maybe they used to be? Was just playing around looking at the numbers and kind of shocked at what I saw. Thought ya'll might find it interesting as well. No doubt they have benefitted from eagle ford
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