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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 13:31:56 GMT -6
I don't think you quite get what he's saying. Why is a district that is getting money from another district able to pay their teachers more than the one who's providing the 'extra money' It is a very, very valid question. I call it hog wash because that is exactly what it is. If the state is going to mandate 'Robin Hood' type tax laws.....then shouldn't teacher's salaries be exactly even through the districts in the state??? Well, here's a counter question. Is T-M's slightly lower pay preventing them from getting good teachers? T-M can get away with paying their teachers $39,000 because, for the most part, their salary is competitive with other districts in the Corpus area. It's really more of a question of why they would pay $42,000 if they can get a good teacher for only $39,000. For a variety of reasons, most teachers are only going to be able to look for a job in one area; if the teacher's spouse has a job in Corpus, she's not going to be looking for a job in Laredo. Some of the DFW districts start around $45,000 to $46,000, but that's the case whether it's a (relatively) poor district or a rich one. They're basically competing with one another but really aren't competing with districts in the Valley or Corpus. TM for the most part has no issues attracting and retaining quality teachers. Their state scores on average are above the state average and some of the better in the region. It's one of those districts where a teacher might take a tad less pay if on the other end, she/he get better support in the classroom from the administration and community. Sometimes that is worth it in the end.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 13:32:53 GMT -6
Trust me, you would be a lot better off with Cousin Vinny. Youts!!!!! I'll take him too as long as brings along Marisa Tomei. ;D
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2013 13:44:16 GMT -6
Well, here's a counter question. Is T-M's slightly lower pay preventing them from getting good teachers? T-M can get away with paying their teachers $39,000 because, for the most part, their salary is competitive with other districts in the Corpus area. It's really more of a question of why they would pay $42,000 if they can get a good teacher for only $39,000. For a variety of reasons, most teachers are only going to be able to look for a job in one area; if the teacher's spouse has a job in Corpus, she's not going to be looking for a job in Laredo. Some of the DFW districts start around $45,000 to $46,000, but that's the case whether it's a (relatively) poor district or a rich one. They're basically competing with one another but really aren't competing with districts in the Valley or Corpus. TM for the most part has no issues attracting and retaining quality teachers. Their state scores on average are above the state average and some of the better in the region. It's one of those districts where a teacher might take a tad less pay if on the other end, she/he get better support in the classroom from the administration and community. Sometimes that is worth it in the end. So, this is a silly argument. It sounds to me like T-M could probably afford to pay their teachers as much (or more) than Laredo does but doesn't see the need to. There's a lot more to running a school district than paying the teachers; spending more money on teacher salaries means less money for other things. Up here, Denton ISD starts at $47,600 while Carroll ISD starts at $45,955, but I highly doubt that's an issue of Carroll not being able to afford to pay as much as Denton.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 13:51:35 GMT -6
Baker Hughes built a similar one here in Corpus by the Airport. A few more from other big players are in the works or in the process of being built. thats good because that brick and mortar investment tells you they are in for the long haul..... we dont have that..... are brick and mortar is retail and medical and not much else......although i see alot more cold storage headed our way because of mexican produce......that is our future if we do a good job of exploiting it.... That's what I was saying yesterday. The valley economy had to start changing by force in the 80's because King Citrus nearly got whipped out thanks to two killer freezes and farmers who were in that industry also farmed other crops just got out of the business altogether. Here go we had some good and cheap land to allow things to go another direction and then NAFTA came along (with large chunks of Federal Spending) and picked up the growth to what we have now. My concern as well as people who are business people I know down there that I grew up with is what happens if the Mexican economy which has done relatively well compared to ours and evened weathered the 2008 crisis finally takes a turn for the worse like it did in the 80's with the Peso devaluations. That killed alot of property investment on this side of the border that was owned by Mexican Nationals. And it's precisely what some of these business folks are concerned that some leaders in RGV have focused to much on retail and not enough on brick and mortar companies locating and bringing in long term jobs that can whether down turns or enough of them to where the diversity of industry would help offset a downturn in one of the sectors. Don't get me wrong, Retail trade is great and if you can get others (tourists) to help pay your tax bill via sales tax, that's even better and that is something our leadership in Corpus for the better parts of the 90's and early 2000's ignored while the RGV and San Antonio and other parts northbound start getting stuff and would totally bypass us because our leaders didn't dare budge on tax incentives. But they have finally woke up to the fact they were losing sales tax money to those areas and have brokered some pretty darn good deals and we are getting the things that have bypassed us in past including an Outlet mall. Schilterbaun on the beach will be a big plus for the Bluff and the city in general. Agian, 5 years ago, they would have been told to hit the road and keep your $50 million initial investment.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 13:55:24 GMT -6
TM for the most part has no issues attracting and retaining quality teachers. Their state scores on average are above the state average and some of the better in the region. It's one of those districts where a teacher might take a tad less pay if on the other end, she/he get better support in the classroom from the administration and community. Sometimes that is worth it in the end. So, this is a silly argument. It sounds to me like T-M could probably afford to pay their teachers as much (or more) than Laredo does but doesn't see the need to. There's a lot more to running a school district than paying the teachers; spending more money on teacher salaries means less money for other things. Up here, Denton ISD starts at $47,600 while Carroll ISD starts at $45,955, but I highly doubt that's an issue of Carroll not being able to afford to pay as much as Denton. I get part of the argument based on the tax payment transfers. Now if TM got to keep every dime it now sends, would it ultimately go to the pay scales at TM? I don't know? But schools like the LISD and few others around the state in poor districts certainly benefit from other programs which help supplement teacher pay due to Federal mandates or the such.
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Post by otter on May 9, 2013 7:28:40 GMT -6
They certainly would have a hard time explaining to its teachers why there is multi-millions of dollars in the bank. But that would not be the case. TM has a very good management team.
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