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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 14:00:46 GMT -6
It is a fact the RGV is growing and that is a good thing, but would hate to see the fallout if ( more like when) Mexico's economy goes through hard times like it did a few times in the 80's and 90's. I recall one of those episodes where storefronts by the dozens in McAllen went out of business and was very similar to the oil bust which hurt the Coastal Bend in the mid 80's and shrank once 5A schools like Alice to 4A. While the growth is good, the RGV still needs to build up the other legs of it economic stool that doesn't rely mainly on retail/international trade from Mexico and government employment for which the later is unavoidable thanks to things like increased federal law enforcement. It's a fact a large number of the workforce in the RGV is employed by the government on the Federal, State and Local levels. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not good either as they are at the mercy of budget cutting or reorganization. They are making strides in the right direction by getting things like a full fledged medical school. But in my opinion, more focus should have been placed on manufacturing jobs and the such vs what some city leaders saw as important . It's a shame you are not closer to the Eagle Ford because its transforming the Coastal Bend economy to where we will sitting nice and pretty IF the EPA doesn't screw it up. cmon stff....manufacturing...we sit on the border....maquilas are right across from us.... and that great eagle ford you speak....it may transform you for the next 20 or so...but ask west texas about that oil boom..... you have alot of ghost towns out there over a boom..... nice try though..... The maquilas ARE ACROSS the RIVER and not on this side. The only people on this side who benefit are truck drivers, warehouses/custom brokers and supervisor types who live on this side and trek across the border everyday. I don't deny they are benefit to the valley economy, but the impact is not enough to make up for of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, year over year. Now is it? How many Dodge Trucks? Sony Flat Screen TV's or Delco components are made in McAllen or any other border city on this side? Zip, zero, nada. And you really do live in the RGV bubble. Midland is THE FASTEST GROWING metro area in the nation. www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_bc488636-8d04-11e2-aff0-0019bb2963f4.htmlAnd yea, that great Eagle Ford is just that.... great! www.businessinsider.com/tour-of-the-eagle-ford-shale-2012-12And I've studied the Eagle Ford and continue to as I might be entering into a venture and the play continues to expand thanks to technology. So much so we have MANUFACTURING knocking and pounding on our doors to locate here thanks to cheap natural gas. The one billion dollar pipe plant in Portland. Two LNG export pants worth about a billion or two a piece in the works. An Austrian Iron Works plant building a $750 million plant and an Italian plastics plant building a huge facility here as well. Yep, that damn Eagle Ford is going to bust us up bad.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 14:13:11 GMT -6
one other thing stff.... i bought some apartments that were foreclosed on near freer about a year ago....and they are doing quite well for me..... but guess what....I am going to try my dangest to be 5 years too soon to sell them off then 5 years too late..... as i drive up 281.....i hope all those folks realize that as well.... Well good for you. No doubt there will be bumps and dips, but this time might be different. I think we as a nation are finally getting a clue that this might be the best shot to get off foreign energy sources and one big key is natural gas and we have plenty of it in these parts. It will have it's cycles like any component of the economy, but I don't think we will have the deeper busts that we've had in the past.
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Post by valleyfan on May 7, 2013 14:16:16 GMT -6
one other thing stff.... i bought some apartments that were foreclosed on near freer about a year ago....and they are doing quite well for me..... but guess what....I am going to try my dangest to be 5 years too soon to sell them off then 5 years too late..... as i drive up 281.....i hope all those folks realize that as well.... Well good for you. No doubt there will be bumps and dips, but this time might be different. I think we as a nation are finally getting a clue that this might be the best shot to get off foreign energy sources and one big key is natural gas and we have plenty of it in these parts. It will have it's cycles like any component of the economy, but I don't think we will have the deeper busts that we've had in the past. I hope not.....the one thing i have noticed at least right now in its infancy is that its mostly just the guys moving down...not many families just yet......
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 14:20:40 GMT -6
I don't think you quite get what he's saying. Why is a district that is getting money from another district able to pay their teachers more than the one who's providing the 'extra money' It is a very, very valid question. I call it hog wash because that is exactly what it is. If the state is going to mandate 'Robin Hood' type tax laws.....then shouldn't teacher's salaries be exactly even through the districts in the state??? robin hood amounted to a total of 1 billion dollars changing hands.... republicans took that from our schools and another 4 million two years ago..... so which is the greater problem? ?? Maybe the so called evil cuts were a bad thing? Maybe they were not? I do know I'd like to see every school district from Dalhart to Browsville and from Orange to El Paso audited for waste, abuse and duplication. And that means duplication in employment and make work jobs for school board members families and political supporters. You know, the type attitude that leads to corruption on a board which leads to getting in bed with building contractors and getting kick backs. My bet is some of the cuts could be mitigated if the money we all pay in property taxes would go to justifiable expenses and not some of the other non sense that is shown on financial reports.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 14:27:31 GMT -6
Well good for you. No doubt there will be bumps and dips, but this time might be different. I think we as a nation are finally getting a clue that this might be the best shot to get off foreign energy sources and one big key is natural gas and we have plenty of it in these parts. It will have it's cycles like any component of the economy, but I don't think we will have the deeper busts that we've had in the past. I hope not.....the one thing i have noticed at least right now in its infancy is that its mostly just the guys moving down...not many families just yet...... In the smaller towns like Three Rivers, etc you are correct it's just guys moving down and most of those types are your blue collar workers who are single as well and in their teens and 20's. If they have kids or families, they won't show up in the school stats as far as high school attendance because of they are too young. Now in the bigger cities like Corpus, you do see the blue collar types moving in who have families because mainly the lady of the house wants to be closer to the malls and other entertainment options. But we have a sizable white collar workforce moving here too that are Engineers, business managers, etc. that work in the oil field and related industries as well. I see out of state license plates several times a day around here. Housing is in demand and it's a sellers market. And many of these families have older kids who will be showing up in our high schools soon if not already in places like Calallen, Alice, GP, TM, the CCISD, GP, Sinton and Flour Bluff. Sorry if I left out anyone.
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Post by otter on May 8, 2013 9:09:41 GMT -6
oh and FYI... T-M gave back: 2012---$9924 2011---$25,731 and hasn't given any other amounts since 1997 That was ADA money. That doesn't show that out of 5 refineries - TM gets one.
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Post by otter on May 8, 2013 9:15:43 GMT -6
Stiffy, if I ever need an attorney can I call on you?
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Post by Purp on May 8, 2013 9:22:32 GMT -6
The reason some of the districts that receive funds pay more for teachers is simple, no one wants to teach there. So they have to pay more to attract a half assed teacher who hasn't gotten "resigned/ fired" and is looking for a job. A district not to far from Calhoun, where no one wants to teach due to local, living conditions,lack of niceitties, and other jobs for spouses of teachers who also muct work, must pay more in order to have enough faculty just to keep the doors open.
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Post by valleyfan on May 8, 2013 9:24:41 GMT -6
I hope not.....the one thing i have noticed at least right now in its infancy is that its mostly just the guys moving down...not many families just yet...... In the smaller towns like Three Rivers, etc you are correct it's just guys moving down and most of those types are your blue collar workers who are single as well and in their teens and 20's. If they have kids or families, they won't show up in the school stats as far as high school attendance because of they are too young. Now in the bigger cities like Corpus, you do see the blue collar types moving in who have families because mainly the lady of the house wants to be closer to the malls and other entertainment options. But we have a sizable white collar workforce moving here too that are Engineers, business managers, etc. that work in the oil field and related industries as well. I see out of state license plates several times a day around here. Housing is in demand and it's a sellers market. And many of these families have older kids who will be showing up in our high schools soon if not already in places like Calallen, Alice, GP, TM, the CCISD, GP, Sinton and Flour Bluff. Sorry if I left out anyone. I hope that continues to materialize for your area....because one of the big things I saw as I head up to SA to see my daughter in college is that big new shiny building that Baker Hughes (i think that who it is) built on the outskirts of SA.... that tells you alot about the white collar type jobs....they want the bigger towns if they have to move because of eagle ford.....
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 9:39:46 GMT -6
In the smaller towns like Three Rivers, etc you are correct it's just guys moving down and most of those types are your blue collar workers who are single as well and in their teens and 20's. If they have kids or families, they won't show up in the school stats as far as high school attendance because of they are too young. Now in the bigger cities like Corpus, you do see the blue collar types moving in who have families because mainly the lady of the house wants to be closer to the malls and other entertainment options. But we have a sizable white collar workforce moving here too that are Engineers, business managers, etc. that work in the oil field and related industries as well. I see out of state license plates several times a day around here. Housing is in demand and it's a sellers market. And many of these families have older kids who will be showing up in our high schools soon if not already in places like Calallen, Alice, GP, TM, the CCISD, GP, Sinton and Flour Bluff. Sorry if I left out anyone. I hope that continues to materialize for your area....because one of the big things I saw as I head up to SA to see my daughter in college is that big new shiny building that Baker Hughes (i think that who it is) built on the outskirts of SA.... that tells you alot about the white collar type jobs....they want the bigger towns if they have to move because of eagle ford..... Baker Hughes built a similar one here in Corpus by the Airport. A few more from other big players are in the works or in the process of being built.
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Post by valleyfan on May 8, 2013 9:49:08 GMT -6
I hope that continues to materialize for your area....because one of the big things I saw as I head up to SA to see my daughter in college is that big new shiny building that Baker Hughes (i think that who it is) built on the outskirts of SA.... that tells you alot about the white collar type jobs....they want the bigger towns if they have to move because of eagle ford..... Baker Hughes built a similar one here in Corpus by the Airport. A few more from other big players are in the works or in the process of being built. thats good because that brick and mortar investment tells you they are in for the long haul..... we dont have that..... are brick and mortar is retail and medical and not much else......although i see alot more cold storage headed our way because of mexican produce......that is our future if we do a good job of exploiting it....
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Post by FB fan on May 8, 2013 10:02:16 GMT -6
Stiffy, if I ever need an attorney can I call on you? Trust me, you would be a lot better off with Cousin Vinny.
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Post by otter on May 8, 2013 12:47:12 GMT -6
Stiffy, if I ever need an attorney can I call on you? Trust me, you would be a lot better off with Cousin Vinny. Youts!!!!! I'll take him too as long as brings along Marisa Tomei.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 8, 2013 13:12:37 GMT -6
Explain this: A new teacher in TMISD has an annual salary of 39556. TMISD is a distributor of Robin Hood monies. A new teacher in the Laredo ISD has an annual salary of 42700. LISD is a recepient of Robin Hood monies. Several school districts across the state whose livelihood has been its refineries were almost closed or close to bankrupt because of Robin Hood. The scoreboard thing - That's like the episode of Everybody Loves Raymond, when Robert was down on his luck and couldn't pay bills. So Raymond lended him money and he took a trip with it. If I have to help pay for your kids education you don't get to wear a Rolex while I got a Timex. I do not believe the average, tax paying citizen like you or I can make since of this..........but I'm sure the politicians that set BS like this up have a very, very viable explanation for it! Absolute HOG WASH is what I call it. Just wondering if I really spelled this word this way yesterday? WTH
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2013 13:24:23 GMT -6
sounds to me like Laredo ISD is doing a better job of compensating their teachers for the hard work they do..... remember ultimately this will be paid by the business community with advertising dollars.... do they need it.....nope.... but does anybody need it.....probably not....and yet i didnt see this uproar when Katy's business community afforded them the opportunity to get that big ole scoreboard..... I don't think you quite get what he's saying. Why is a district that is getting money from another district able to pay their teachers more than the one who's providing the 'extra money' It is a very, very valid question. I call it hog wash because that is exactly what it is. If the state is going to mandate 'Robin Hood' type tax laws.....then shouldn't teacher's salaries be exactly even through the districts in the state??? Well, here's a counter question. Is T-M's slightly lower pay preventing them from getting good teachers? T-M can get away with paying their teachers $39,000 because, for the most part, their salary is competitive with other districts in the Corpus area. It's really more of a question of why they would pay $42,000 if they can get a good teacher for only $39,000. For a variety of reasons, most teachers are only going to be able to look for a job in one area; if the teacher's spouse has a job in Corpus, she's not going to be looking for a job in Laredo. Some of the DFW districts start around $45,000 to $46,000, but that's the case whether it's a (relatively) poor district or a rich one. They're basically competing with one another but really aren't competing with districts in the Valley or Corpus.
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