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Post by picodegallo on Jul 4, 2024 9:19:06 GMT -6
The current stadium seats just under 7k. How is making a stadium 1k less than that not a big deal? I understand Steele is a better program than Alice but that doesn't make the fanbase better. What is supposed to be the capacity of the home side and the visitors side for the updated stadium? With the trend towards streamed games and current forms of leisure time options, I know the new stadiums nowadays are rarely as large as new stadiums from 10-20 years ago. New Braunfels Long Creek’s new $40m stadium is supposed to have 4,000 in the home side and 3,000 in the visitors side with room for future expansion. Curious to see how identical this stadium will be compared to Alice since they were approved at the same time for nearly identical costs. And in Castroville, they also approved in May 2024 for a complete renovation to Medina Valley stadium for like $25m or so and it’s supposed to be 6,500. And their new HS will also have a new stadium that will also seat 6,500. I believe a lot of the new stadium bonds in Houston/DFW are also for capacities of 6,500 - 8,000 as well. It makes me wonder if the era of 10,000 - 12,000+ stadiums is passing us by. I think school boards are now having to look at more practical designs vs bling because of the way they have to be approved by the voters. In the not so distant past, many of the ISD that have the stadiums with bling were able to make it all part of one bond vote and it was all or nothing. Can't do that anymore until some of these ISD's that have political clout can't get even a simple stadium design passed and then they will start putting the thumb on the State Legislature to modify the law. And it will happen when in particular those ISD's around Austin, DFW and Houston can't get things passed to keep up with the Joneses. They do need to modify to allow simple renovations to go on the side of the ballot that has renovations for other facilities. Unless you are greatly expanding a stadium, you shouldn't compromise safety of the students and fans because some voters who have an anti athletics MO decide to vote against that side of a bond issue while improving safety and security items on academic side of the ballot. Making sure a facility is ADA compliant is important as is making sure the light poles are still sound to withstand hurricane force winds. It's going to be soon where hundreds of schools across the state are going to have to replace turf surfaces and that shouldn't be left to the anti athletic zealots.
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Post by BandidoNB on Jul 4, 2024 12:50:38 GMT -6
That home side setup looks really nice, especially if there is a reserve seating setup with individual seats. I think Alice Stadium still become a popular playoff venue despite the capacity. As for Medina Valley ISD, they did have a 2nd HS bond that failed in 2022. But they rallied and put it up for vote again in 2024, and it passed (along with a new stadium for them). Wow that first vote was 2 years ago already? Getting old sucks. Any details on the name of the new school? Colors? Mascot? Yea time flies by as we get older. It’s too soon for names and mascots and colors. It also means Medina Valley will only be 6A for two years.
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Post by gata on Jul 7, 2024 10:19:08 GMT -6
Anyone have any more info of what design they're going to use for the new stadium or any more pics at that
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Post by Cochino on Jul 7, 2024 15:57:40 GMT -6
Anyone have any more info of what design they're going to use for the new stadium or any more pics at that I posted the one I have on my STXB Facebook page and asked if any Alice people know anything. Of course they all disappeared now that they don't need the bond promoted.
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Post by gata on Jul 7, 2024 19:04:46 GMT -6
I have an overview of how the new stadium will look but I just don't know how to post a picture on here. I got the picture from that last meeting back in March where they told the developer why were they taking the endzone seatings out. Also what have you heard in regards to them keeping the ends on seeing you're taking it out
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Post by Cochino on Jul 7, 2024 21:02:20 GMT -6
Without even knowing what the design is I already don't like what's happening. The current stadium seats 6,856 (and that's not even counting that big endzone section the band uses) and they are going to replace that with something that seats only 6,000. The other endzone seats 500 and 500 on each section so 1,000 total. That means that band section could hold about 600'ish fans if needed. So you're taking a stadium that seats roughly 7,500 and replacing it with something that seats 6,000. Now this won't matter when Alice is playing Tomato Can High but it's not gonna help when playing the big or playoff games. I don't understand the logic in building something that seats 1,500'ish less fans. I'll gladly apologize if the plans are completely different when they come out officially but this looks like what's gonna happen as of now.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 8, 2024 4:59:14 GMT -6
That home side setup looks really nice, especially if there is a reserve seating setup with individual seats. I think Alice Stadium still become a popular playoff venue despite the capacity. As for Medina Valley ISD, they did have a 2nd HS bond that failed in 2022. But they rallied and put it up for vote again in 2024, and it passed (along with a new stadium for them). Wow that first vote was 2 years ago already? Getting old sucks. Any details on the name of the new school? Colors? Mascot? lol it is better than the alternative! Not sure that I've heard the official name of the new HS there yet but it is moving on. We are on it and it is currently about 35-40% or so complete. Hopefully the new Alice Stadium will be like markp said and it will be easily added on to in the future. Heck, adding some endzone seating wouldn't be a difficult thing to do at all especially if they've allowed for it for future addition.
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Post by warcat82 on Jul 8, 2024 14:01:29 GMT -6
If they did like a couple of schools up this way, they may have also left room for side seat expansion? Belton and a couple other places added on to the sides of their stadiums then also added end zone seating. It is something to consider...
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Post by Cochino on Jul 11, 2024 7:10:11 GMT -6
You're probably getting a stadium identical or close to identical of Huntsville's new stadium.
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Post by BandidoNB on Jul 11, 2024 7:27:26 GMT -6
If they did like a couple of schools up this way, they may have also left room for side seat expansion? Belton and a couple other places added on to the sides of their stadiums then also added end zone seating. It is something to consider... I dislike the way Belton did their expansion. East Central did something similar. I’ve always thought that it was better to add additional seats directly to the original grandstands. Canyon, Hays and Calallen did seating expansions in this manner. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if that method was more expensive, which can be a detractor as well.
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Post by warcat82 on Jul 11, 2024 13:07:31 GMT -6
If they did like a couple of schools up this way, they may have also left room for side seat expansion? Belton and a couple other places added on to the sides of their stadiums then also added end zone seating. It is something to consider... I dislike the way Belton did their expansion. East Central did something similar. I’ve always thought that it was better to add additional seats directly to the original grandstands. Canyon, Hays and Calallen did seating expansions in this manner. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if that method was more expensive, which can be a detractor as well. They recently redid the Belton additions when then built Lake Belton. They did what Calallen did that time. Yes the initial expansion was dumb the way they did. Literal "cheap seats"...
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Post by Cochino on Jul 23, 2024 18:02:15 GMT -6
I'm cool with the Alice stadium plans. I'll still go to my grave saying they should leave the current endzone seating as part of it but I'm ok with it. The visitors side is definitely too small at 1800 capacity but the stadium plan shows that there is plans to add 700 more seats to each end of the visitors side bleachers in the future so 1400 more seats total.
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Post by Javy2005 on Jul 24, 2024 15:48:18 GMT -6
6 away & 4 home …. Like I said the travel district wise will be BRUTAL as hell & at the same bill we have no control over this with the season kicking off this is gonna be a challenge Yup, the two trips to the RGV not gonna be a lotta fun but the other 4 are not bad at all really. Quick Google Maps is what I see below Carroll - 44 miles to Buc Sinton - 55 miles GP - 55 miles TM - 40 miles Pioneer - 117 miles Vets Memorial - 122 miles The trips from Alice to the Corpus, GP & Sinton arent the pain in the patella but the RGV trips are gonna be a trip
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Post by Javy2005 on Jul 24, 2024 15:54:49 GMT -6
I know I haven’t been on here for a while & it’s been a minute. I saw the photos & post on the current stadium plans from what I saw this the visitors side looked too damn small just like the Mercedes & Seguin’s. I know …. We all know year after year the visitors side fills up from within a blink of an eye mainly the non-season ticket holders.
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Post by proscout on Jul 24, 2024 21:54:33 GMT -6
Former Mathis AD and HC Trae Stevens was named assistant AD in Alice. Castellano putting a great staff in the athletetic department.
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