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Post by rtxc1 on Nov 27, 2023 20:01:56 GMT -6
Play schools from Mexico. It's what Port Isabel had to do. We played one the last two years. I can see where at least through week five we could fill it out with local and some nearby 4As like Cuero, PLC , etc if they have six team districts. We might have to look at that other four team district out near Pecos for some games. Valley View and Moody could drop if the number goes up to 1340. That would help.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 27, 2023 20:16:56 GMT -6
We played one the last two years. I can see where at least through week five we could fill it out with local and some nearby 4As like Cuero, PLC , etc if they have six team districts. We might have to look at that other four team district out near Pecos for some games. Valley View and Moody could drop if the number goes up to 1340. That would help. That would help to fill some scheduling spots. But that’s about all.
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Post by drobles1376 on Nov 27, 2023 20:24:11 GMT -6
Am I reading this right for District 16? Calallen TM Hidalgo Zapata Argh! Vomit! My eyes are bleeding! How in the hell do you find seven non district games? I officially petition to Opt Up to 5A D2 and I take back everything I ever said about the CCISD and CcWarcat if something like this is in the cards. That would be brutal to find 7 opponents, but I’m sure GP, Flour Bluff, Miller, Cuero, and others would step up. I’m not sure Calhoun would play them since they could be potentially playoff opponents.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 27, 2023 20:29:14 GMT -6
Am I reading this right for District 16? Calallen TM Hidalgo Zapata Argh! Vomit! My eyes are bleeding! How in the hell do you find seven non district games? I officially petition to Opt Up to 5A D2 and I take back everything I ever said about the CCISD and CcWarcat if something like this is in the cards. That would be brutal to find 7 opponents, but I’m sure GP, Flour Bluff, Miller, Cuero, and others would step up. I’m not sure Calhoun would play them since they could be potentially playoff opponents. . Locally though you have to account for how big those 5A districts will be. If they are eight team , that means they will have only two slots for non district. Week there they are in district play already.
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Post by arges on Nov 27, 2023 20:31:50 GMT -6
Ingleside 595 Sweeny 594 Port Isabel 594 Pearsall 591 Kemp 590 Caldwell 590 Burnet 900 Henderson 982.5 FW Diamond Hill 969 Lake Worth 961 Brownwood 960 Navasota 960 Brazosport 959 Carrollton Ranchview 959 Mineral Wells 953 China Spring 952 Jarrell 951 Didn't Burnet turn in 990? That's what I see on the DCTF list. But that's interesting. If the 4A/3A cutoff was bumped up to 595, it would only add 6 schools to 3AD1. I know the UIL is big on trying to keep the ratio of kids between bigger/smaller schools below 2:1 since that's been an issue at the 4A level for a good bit. If the top end of 4AD2 is going as high as 990 (might as well call it 1000) wouldn't it make a bit more sense to have the 4A/3A cutoff closer to 600? That would make it a 5:3 ratio and a bit more fair. Would it be perfect? No. But it's better than having a school that is at or nearly twice the size of yours. Also, what is Padilla's range for 3AD1? I know he's got top of 3A at 590, but what's the bottom end? There are quite a few schools that don't have numbers listed like Manor New Tech, Devine, Raymondville, Orange Grove and maybe some more. 3A is overloaded with charter schools and moving the 2A limit up would only overload that class. Bring on a Class 7A.
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Post by warcat82 on Nov 27, 2023 20:31:52 GMT -6
Man for once I hope you are wrong on one!!!! I threw up in my mouth seeing that district with Calallen, TM, Zapata, and Hidalgo... why even play games for 10 weeks... just forfeit and wait for playoffs and stay healthy. Screw it you're in the playoffs regardless. What's UIL gonna do?
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Post by oldtarponman on Nov 27, 2023 20:44:24 GMT -6
Didn't Burnet turn in 990? That's what I see on the DCTF list. But that's interesting. If the 4A/3A cutoff was bumped up to 595, it would only add 6 schools to 3AD1. I know the UIL is big on trying to keep the ratio of kids between bigger/smaller schools below 2:1 since that's been an issue at the 4A level for a good bit. If the top end of 4AD2 is going as high as 990 (might as well call it 1000) wouldn't it make a bit more sense to have the 4A/3A cutoff closer to 600? That would make it a 5:3 ratio and a bit more fair. Would it be perfect? No. But it's better than having a school that is at or nearly twice the size of yours. Also, what is Padilla's range for 3AD1? I know he's got top of 3A at 590, but what's the bottom end? There are quite a few schools that don't have numbers listed like Manor New Tech, Devine, Raymondville, Orange Grove and maybe some more. 3A is overloaded with charter schools and moving the 2A limit up would only overload that class. Bring on a Class 7A. The vast majority of those charter schools don't have football programs, though. The only exception I can think of is San Antonio YMLA, and I believe they turned in a # well below 500 for the next realignment. The UIL really should consider doing something about all of the IDEA & Charter schools that clutter 3A. Possibly even going so far as to have different sets of cutoff #s. One set for schools with football programs, the other for the rest of the sports.
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Post by oldtarponman on Nov 27, 2023 20:47:13 GMT -6
Man for once I hope you are wrong on one!!!! I threw up in my mouth seeing that district with Calallen, TM, Zapata, and Hidalgo... why even play games for 10 weeks... just forfeit and wait for playoffs and stay healthy. Screw it you're in the playoffs regardless. What's UIL gonna do? Double Round Robin format? Each school plays each other twice. One home game, one away game. That's 6 district games. You'd only need to find 4 non-district games.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 27, 2023 20:50:09 GMT -6
There are quite a few schools that don't have numbers listed like Manor New Tech, Devine, Raymondville, Orange Grove and maybe some more. 3A is overloaded with charter schools and moving the 2A limit up would only overload that class. Bring on a Class 7A. The vast majority of those charter schools don't have football programs, though. The only exception I can think of is San Antonio YMLA, and I believe they turned in a # well below 500 for the next realignment. The UIL really should consider doing something about all of the IDEA & Charter schools that clutter 3A. Possibly even going so far as to have different sets of cutoff #s. One set for schools with football programs, the other for the rest of the sports. How many 3A schools play football across the state?
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Post by rtxc1 on Nov 27, 2023 20:58:57 GMT -6
There are quite a few schools that don't have numbers listed like Manor New Tech, Devine, Raymondville, Orange Grove and maybe some more. 3A is overloaded with charter schools and moving the 2A limit up would only overload that class. Bring on a Class 7A. The vast majority of those charter schools don't have football programs, though. The only exception I can think of is San Antonio YMLA, and I believe they turned in a # well below 500 for the next realignment. The UIL really should consider doing something about all of the IDEA & Charter schools that clutter 3A. Possibly even going so far as to have different sets of cutoff #s. One set for schools with football programs, the other for the rest of the sports. Old UIL rules let school districts have like a 6A school and a 3A school. New rules say there will be an automatic opt up if not within 2 classes. So Dallas Madison could be forced up to 4A. Why do I bring that up? Rules have stated charters will be placed at the lowest level of the ISD whose boundaries they lie in. There are 4 football-playing Dallas ISD charters who have been 3A because of Madison. The rules make it seem as those all 5 of these schools will have to be 4A now. 5 schools don't make much of a difference in 5A and 6A, but they sure do in 4A and under.
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Post by warcat82 on Nov 27, 2023 21:03:20 GMT -6
Man for once I hope you are wrong on one!!!! I threw up in my mouth seeing that district with Calallen, TM, Zapata, and Hidalgo... why even play games for 10 weeks... just forfeit and wait for playoffs and stay healthy. Screw it you're in the playoffs regardless. What's UIL gonna do? Double Round Robin format? Each school plays each other twice. One home game, one away game. That's 6 district games. You'd only need to find 4 non-district games. I've seen some non uil schools do similar before and the first game they play didn't count as district. But seriously if I was in that district I'd just save money and call in "sick" every week and lose 3 games and prep for playoffs with a healthy bunch... you're automatically in so it don't matter what happens. Why risk getting a kid hurt in a crap district and why waste gas. The only teams I could see playing each other would be TM and Cal given they're neighbors. I wonder how double forfeits work lol
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Post by drobles1376 on Nov 27, 2023 21:45:40 GMT -6
Man for once I hope you are wrong on one!!!! I threw up in my mouth seeing that district with Calallen, TM, Zapata, and Hidalgo... why even play games for 10 weeks... just forfeit and wait for playoffs and stay healthy. Screw it you're in the playoffs regardless. What's UIL gonna do? Best bet would be for a 900 bottom number. Then the Valley district would have Kingsville, La Feria, Grulla, Hidalgo, and Zapata.
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Post by rtxc1 on Nov 27, 2023 22:45:42 GMT -6
Man for once I hope you are wrong on one!!!! I threw up in my mouth seeing that district with Calallen, TM, Zapata, and Hidalgo... why even play games for 10 weeks... just forfeit and wait for playoffs and stay healthy. Screw it you're in the playoffs regardless. What's UIL gonna do? Best bet would be for a 900 bottom number. Then the Valley district would have Kingsville, La Feria, Grulla, Hidalgo, and Zapata. That's what I had, but with 113 schools, it was likely too many for 4A. That's partially why I don't like making early predictions for 4A - not enough schools to really do anything with. Also, it is just so dependent on what happens in 5A and 6A.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 28, 2023 9:34:36 GMT -6
Man for once I hope you are wrong on one!!!! I threw up in my mouth seeing that district with Calallen, TM, Zapata, and Hidalgo... why even play games for 10 weeks... just forfeit and wait for playoffs and stay healthy. Screw it you're in the playoffs regardless. What's UIL gonna do? Double Round Robin format? Each school plays each other twice. One home game, one away game. That's 6 district games. You'd only need to find 4 non-district games. Yup There are a couple districts out west that do exactly this. THey play each team twice in district
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Post by drobles1376 on Nov 28, 2023 10:21:51 GMT -6
Looks like Matt Stepp’s mock uses Padilla’s thinking of 990 for 4A cutoff.
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