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Post by Javy2005 on Nov 15, 2023 17:57:00 GMT -6
As much as I want Victoria East to advance to the next round, I know North’s running attack could be too damn much, if East can contain & keep their run game in check they’ll have a potential chance …. We’ll find out
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 16, 2023 6:17:47 GMT -6
PSJA N averages 14 passes a game. To me, I think thats just the right number to keep a defense honest. They average 17 yards per completion, so when they pass, they are doing something right. I always said that I wish Calallen mixed in passing about like Katy does. So heres a comparsion. Katy 2023 Pass Attempts 156 Rushes 423 PSJA N 2023 Pass Attempts 157 Rushes 431 Katy has 1609 yards passing, PSJA N has 1700 yards passing. No one has ever accused Katy of being an air raid offense, but everyone knows they throw the ball just well enough to open up their running game. That's what PSJA N does. For a team that runs the ball so well, they are pretty respectable at passing too. *Disclaimer: No, I am not saying that PSJA N would beat Katy, I know how you yahoos are, so don't. hahahaha well one yahoo thinks they could anyway already without this post by you! lmao No doubt that is enough passing to keep a defense honest but lets get real. Katy plays some tough teams not only in non-district every year but in their district. Competition matters even when looking at stats and scores and shutouts. Anyone who thinks North isn't a good team needs to quit watching HSFB. They are good, just not elite IMO and won't be until they prove it on the field.
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Post by fan1955 on Nov 16, 2023 6:34:14 GMT -6
In the RGV we are very aware that the schedule is soft no real choice. There is a lot more parity to the North of us so they have no reason to want to come down to RGV. As a fan I would love to see teams like vela and PSJA North play schools in SA Austin or costal bend but that is not up to me. Much of it is budget as we have 4 HS in Edinburg and if you budget for one school to Travel outside the the Valley then you have to do all 4. So fare only Harlingen and I think 1 or 2 others have gotten their ISD to allow them to play outside the Valley pre season I think PSJA schools do journey to Laredo but that is it. So have to do with what we are given.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 16, 2023 6:40:13 GMT -6
In the RGV we are very aware that the schedule is soft no real choice. There is a lot more parity to the North of us so they have no reason to want to come down to RGV. As a fan I would love to see teams like vela and PSJA North play schools in SA Austin or costal bend but that is not up to me. Much of it is budget as we have 4 HS in Edinburg and if you budget for one school to Travel outside the the Valley then you have to do all 4. So fare only Harlingen and I think 1 or 2 others have gotten their ISD to allow them to play outside the Valley pre season I think PSJA schools do journey to Laredo but that is it. So have to do with what we are given. This is understandable but still sucks for teams like North and Vela who have really elevated their programs. The only way to get sharper is steel on steel and it is very apparent that this year there isn't hard enough steel in the RGV or Laredo for North to sharpen up with. I like North a lot and am pulling for them even though a lot of folks on here probably believe I'm not due to my comments. I'm just a skeptic and until I see them pull it off I have a really hard time believing. I absolutely think they have the team to win the region but I just think the team from R3 may very well overwhelm them if it is Fulshear or CS with their overall team speed. I think they could keep it close with SV but it would be a very, very low scoring game and that SV defense would attack their run game. If it is SV and them in the semis, though I wish them well I will be pulling for SV as they were a district team of ours for years and I still know quite a few folks over in Comal ISD and SV.
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Post by fan1955 on Nov 16, 2023 7:40:03 GMT -6
In the RGV we are very aware that the schedule is soft no real choice. There is a lot more parity to the North of us so they have no reason to want to come down to RGV. As a fan I would love to see teams like vela and PSJA North play schools in SA Austin or costal bend but that is not up to me. Much of it is budget as we have 4 HS in Edinburg and if you budget for one school to Travel outside the the Valley then you have to do all 4. So fare only Harlingen and I think 1 or 2 others have gotten their ISD to allow them to play outside the Valley pre season I think PSJA schools do journey to Laredo but that is it. So have to do with what we are given. This is understandable but still sucks for teams like North and Vela who have really elevated their programs. The only way to get sharper is steel on steel and it is very apparent that this year there isn't hard enough steel in the RGV or Laredo for North to sharpen up with. I like North a lot and am pulling for them even though a lot of folks on here probably believe I'm not due to my comments. I'm just a skeptic and until I see them pull it off I have a really hard time believing. I absolutely think they have the team to win the region but I just think the team from R3 may very well overwhelm them if it is Fulshear or CS with their overall team speed. I think they could keep it close with SV but it would be a very, very low scoring game and that SV defense would attack their run game. If it is SV and them in the semis, though I wish them well I will be pulling for SV as they were a district team of ours for years and I still know quite a few folks over in Comal ISD and SV. I moved to the RGV 14+ years ago and there are some things like TIFA Football that have helped. My grandson was on the Mission Mustang team that won State I want to say 6 or 7 years back. That team is now almost 90% at PSJA North. TYFA ball allowed them to play kids in San Antonio and even in Houston So I guess that is a start but seeing some benefits.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 16, 2023 7:44:18 GMT -6
PSJA N averages 14 passes a game. To me, I think thats just the right number to keep a defense honest. They average 17 yards per completion, so when they pass, they are doing something right. I always said that I wish Calallen mixed in passing about like Katy does. So heres a comparsion. Katy 2023 Pass Attempts 156 Rushes 423 PSJA N 2023 Pass Attempts 157 Rushes 431 Katy has 1609 yards passing, PSJA N has 1700 yards passing. No one has ever accused Katy of being an air raid offense, but everyone knows they throw the ball just well enough to open up their running game. That's what PSJA N does. For a team that runs the ball so well, they are pretty respectable at passing too. *Disclaimer: No, I am not saying that PSJA N would beat Katy, I know how you yahoos are, so don't. I’m glad you put that disclaimer….. until I read that I was worried you went full CCWarcat and I’d have to convene a special meeting of the Cal Cat council and have you exiled.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 16, 2023 7:54:09 GMT -6
In the RGV we are very aware that the schedule is soft no real choice. There is a lot more parity to the North of us so they have no reason to want to come down to RGV. As a fan I would love to see teams like vela and PSJA North play schools in SA Austin or costal bend but that is not up to me. Much of it is budget as we have 4 HS in Edinburg and if you budget for one school to Travel outside the the Valley then you have to do all 4. So fare only Harlingen and I think 1 or 2 others have gotten their ISD to allow them to play outside the Valley pre season I think PSJA schools do journey to Laredo but that is it. So have to do with what we are given. This is understandable but still sucks for teams like North and Vela who have really elevated their programs. The only way to get sharper is steel on steel and it is very apparent that this year there isn't hard enough steel in the RGV or Laredo for North to sharpen up with. I like North a lot and am pulling for them even though a lot of folks on here probably believe I'm not due to my comments. I'm just a skeptic and until I see them pull it off I have a really hard time believing. I absolutely think they have the team to win the region but I just think the team from R3 may very well overwhelm them if it is Fulshear or CS with their overall team speed. I think they could keep it close with SV but it would be a very, very low scoring game and that SV defense would attack their run game. If it is SV and them in the semis, though I wish them well I will be pulling for SV as they were a district team of ours for years and I still know quite a few folks over in Comal ISD and SV. Meh, I know those ISDs are not drowning in red like it’s portrayed because they are classified a certain way. Even if so, they could afford those teams at least a chance to play a team from outside the RGV in non district at least once. If going all the way to San Antonio is too big of a cost, meet halfway in Corpus. That’s the difference between taking charters and yellow hounds too which saves money right off the bat. And it’s not certain that every team in a particular ISD would take advantage of the opportunity. The coaches should know their pipeline coming up and it might be foolish to have them take a whooping just for the sake of playing a solid out of RGV squad.
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 16, 2023 8:10:46 GMT -6
In the RGV we are very aware that the schedule is soft no real choice. There is a lot more parity to the North of us so they have no reason to want to come down to RGV. As a fan I would love to see teams like vela and PSJA North play schools in SA Austin or costal bend but that is not up to me. Much of it is budget as we have 4 HS in Edinburg and if you budget for one school to Travel outside the the Valley then you have to do all 4. So fare only Harlingen and I think 1 or 2 others have gotten their ISD to allow them to play outside the Valley pre season I think PSJA schools do journey to Laredo but that is it. So have to do with what we are given. This is understandable but still sucks for teams like North and Vela who have really elevated their programs. The only way to get sharper is steel on steel and it is very apparent that this year there isn't hard enough steel in the RGV or Laredo for North to sharpen up with. I like North a lot and am pulling for them even though a lot of folks on here probably believe I'm not due to my comments. I'm just a skeptic and until I see them pull it off I have a really hard time believing. I absolutely think they have the team to win the region but I just think the team from R3 may very well overwhelm them if it is Fulshear or CS with their overall team speed. I think they could keep it close with SV but it would be a very, very low scoring game and that SV defense would attack their run game. If it is SV and them in the semis, though I wish them well I will be pulling for SV as they were a district team of ours for years and I still know quite a few folks over in Comal ISD and SV. If I'm not mistaken, PSJAN and Vela both scheduled very good (if not the best) 6A RGV teams in non-district... and both of them went undefeated.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 16, 2023 8:49:11 GMT -6
This is understandable but still sucks for teams like North and Vela who have really elevated their programs. The only way to get sharper is steel on steel and it is very apparent that this year there isn't hard enough steel in the RGV or Laredo for North to sharpen up with. I like North a lot and am pulling for them even though a lot of folks on here probably believe I'm not due to my comments. I'm just a skeptic and until I see them pull it off I have a really hard time believing. I absolutely think they have the team to win the region but I just think the team from R3 may very well overwhelm them if it is Fulshear or CS with their overall team speed. I think they could keep it close with SV but it would be a very, very low scoring game and that SV defense would attack their run game. If it is SV and them in the semis, though I wish them well I will be pulling for SV as they were a district team of ours for years and I still know quite a few folks over in Comal ISD and SV. If I'm not mistaken, PSJAN and Vela both scheduled very good (if not the best) 6A RGV teams in non-district... and both of them went undefeated. You are very mistaken. If I only had a dollar for every time you are during a football season, I’d have enough to pay for a Christmas prime rib to put on the grill.
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 16, 2023 9:07:06 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, PSJAN and Vela both scheduled very good (if not the best) 6A RGV teams in non-district... and both of them went undefeated. You are very mistaken. If I only had a dollar for every time you are during a football season, I’d have enough to pay for a Christmas prime rib to put on the grill. Dang, those things are expensive! LOL
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 16, 2023 12:04:04 GMT -6
This is understandable but still sucks for teams like North and Vela who have really elevated their programs. The only way to get sharper is steel on steel and it is very apparent that this year there isn't hard enough steel in the RGV or Laredo for North to sharpen up with. I like North a lot and am pulling for them even though a lot of folks on here probably believe I'm not due to my comments. I'm just a skeptic and until I see them pull it off I have a really hard time believing. I absolutely think they have the team to win the region but I just think the team from R3 may very well overwhelm them if it is Fulshear or CS with their overall team speed. I think they could keep it close with SV but it would be a very, very low scoring game and that SV defense would attack their run game. If it is SV and them in the semis, though I wish them well I will be pulling for SV as they were a district team of ours for years and I still know quite a few folks over in Comal ISD and SV. If I'm not mistaken, PSJAN and Vela both scheduled very good (if not the best) 6A RGV teams in non-district... and both of them went undefeated. and what 6a teams would this be? North beat PSJA who is 8-3, Los Fresnos who is 6-5, and L United South who is 3-8 Vela beat Edinburg N who is 5-6, Edinburg who is 4-7, and Weslaco East who is 6-5 So no, they didn't play and beat the best 6a teams in the RGV this year Try harder
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Post by warcat82 on Nov 16, 2023 12:07:21 GMT -6
I'm sorry but just because 1 team travels north doesn't mean you have to let all your teams do it. If you have a district like ccisd for instance, you have Vets and Miller that are needing stout opponents. Moody and King however do not need to venture out to seek opponents beyond JV B teams in the local area.
Same for these Valley teams. Vela, Harlingen South, Shary, Pioneer, Port Isabel and North need tested. But the other schools need to stay put. 2 or 3 games up north in Corpus or Austin or further for them against the better schools, not Moody, TM, or King, will make them legit teams in no time at all.
They may take losses at first, but eventually they start winning because they get the experience of those games and know what it takes. The more they play in those games, the better they will become. Just like was said iron sharpens iron.
Then truly there would be no more Valley Weak, no more region 4 weak, no more huge gaps in levels of play... Unfortunately, Administrators don't always see the big picture or care enough...
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Post by fan1955 on Nov 16, 2023 12:22:50 GMT -6
Meh, I know those ISDs are not drowning in red like it’s portrayed because they are classified a certain way. Even if so, they could afford those teams at least a chance to play a team from outside the RGV in non district at least once. If going all the way to San Antonio is too big of a cost, meet halfway in Corpus. That’s the difference between taking charters and yellow hounds too which saves money right off the bat. And it’s not certain that every team in a particular ISD would take advantage of the opportunity. The coaches should know their pipeline coming up and it might be foolish to have them take a whooping just for the sake of playing a solid out of RGV squad. Edinburg ISD will no let it happen it has been asked. We do not use charter buses We have 3 non districtt games and ISD wants Vela to play at least Edinburg HS and Edinburg North and who ever the coach can get within area. The other thing is Why would SA Team travel when they can play equal or betteer and not travel at all.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 16, 2023 13:05:19 GMT -6
Meh, I know those ISDs are not drowning in red like it’s portrayed because they are classified a certain way. Even if so, they could afford those teams at least a chance to play a team from outside the RGV in non district at least once. If going all the way to San Antonio is too big of a cost, meet halfway in Corpus. That’s the difference between taking charters and yellow hounds too which saves money right off the bat. And it’s not certain that every team in a particular ISD would take advantage of the opportunity. The coaches should know their pipeline coming up and it might be foolish to have them take a whooping just for the sake of playing a solid out of RGV squad. Edinburg ISD will no let it happen it has been asked. We do not use charter buses We have 3 non districtt games and ISD wants Vela to play at least Edinburg HS and Edinburg North and who ever the coach can get within area. The other thing is Why would SA Team travel when they can play equal or betteer and not travel at all. San Antonio area teams will travel to Corpus. We've played our share over the years at home and away. It's ultimately up to a coach to persuade a team from SA or further to play. Harlingen has done it several times in recent years.
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Post by picodegallo on Nov 16, 2023 13:39:21 GMT -6
I'm sorry but just because 1 team travels north doesn't mean you have to let all your teams do it. If you have a district like ccisd for instance, you have Vets and Miller that are needing stout opponents. Moody and King however do not need to venture out to seek opponents beyond JV B teams in the local area. Same for these Valley teams. Vela, Harlingen South, Shary, Pioneer, Port Isabel and North need tested. But the other schools need to stay put. 2 or 3 games up north in Corpus or Austin or further for them against the better schools, not Moody, TM, or King, will make them legit teams in no time at all. They may take losses at first, but eventually they start winning because they get the experience of those games and know what it takes. The more they play in those games, the better they will become. Just like was said iron sharpens iron. Then truly there would be no more Valley Weak, no more region 4 weak, no more huge gaps in levels of play... Unfortunately, Administrators don't always see the big picture or care enough... I am former valley guy that still keep up with things, but with age maybe not as much as I did even a decade ago. One of the things that Valley schools always looked at the first or second rounds being the end of the road going back decades until maybe the in the later part of the 2000's. The goal for 6A (5A) was to play Judson (the Real Judson, King) on whatever San Antonio Northside ISD power of the day if they could get by Carroll, Alice, or Victoria . The goal in 5A (4A) GP & Calallen and in 4A (3A) Refugio (yes they were 3A once) , Cuero, Sinton, maybe a couple of others... The value of playing a regional power in non district was really not even a thought until maybe in 2000's when you finally saw Edcouch Elsa and Mercedes scheduling Calallen and I know Harlingen played Abiliene and couple of others in non district a few years ago that made news and their might have been a few more from Coastal Bend others scheduled. The end game though for most was to play that San Antonio team and the idiotic thing is they wouldn't even entertain playing them in the RGV, it was an automatic trip to Alamo Stadium or later the Alamodome. They would win the flip and if they got to wear the home uniforms up there, that's was all good.. At least there were a few that occasionally made the SA team drive down to Kingsville or Alice, but still the majority wanted to take their kids to the big city lights in San Antonio back in the day and after. But that's the mentality that we know it's going to end here and goal of playing at UT DKR or College Station as a true neutral site for a semi final or state title game wasn't even a dream.
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