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Post by packattack95 on Feb 24, 2023 20:42:28 GMT -6
I'm sorry but a 4A program should have higher expectations than to brag about finishing 2nd to a 2A program. You don’t know what expectations these boys and their coach have set forth. Joey Atwood had the opportunity to leave but chose to stay for these athletes. He knows what kind of potential they have and he knows they will compete. These boys compete all the time and do a good job of doing so. You yourself have said Refugio should be a 4A classification. Their program is stacked with several athletes with D1 offers most notable being Ernest Campbell for both track and football. You arent close to the program, you don’t live here and dont know squat about what goes on here. But your hate for the Atwoods shines through, and that’s okay. Not too long ago you even said I should interact more and set you all straight every now and then, well I’m telling it like it is. I watch the boys at practice when I can and damn, none of us could ever. But again you’re not there to SEE it for yourself or the effort and discipline the coaches and these athletes put in. It’s all good though. You’re entitled to your opinion. **Kory Atwood |
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Post by Cochino on Feb 24, 2023 21:13:14 GMT -6
I'm sorry but a 4A program should have higher expectations than to brag about finishing 2nd to a 2A program. You don’t know what expectations these boys and their coach have set forth. Joey Atwood had the opportunity to leave but chose to stay for these athletes. He knows what kind of potential they have and he knows they will compete. These boys compete all the time and do a good job of doing so. You yourself have said Refugio should be a 4A classification. Their program is stacked with several athletes with D1 offers most notable being Ernest Campbell for both track and football. You arent close to the program, you don’t live here and dont know squat about what goes on here. But your hate for the Atwoods shines through, and that’s okay. Not too long ago you even said I should interact more and set you all straight every now and then, well I’m telling it like it is. I watch the boys at practice when I can and damn, none of us could ever. But again you’re not there to SEE it for yourself or the effort and discipline the coaches and these athletes put in. It’s all good though. You’re entitled to your opinion. lmfao literally none of the nonsense you just typed has anything to do with my argument. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD LOOK OR SENDS A GOOD MESSAGE FOR A COACH OF A 4A PROGRAM TO BE BRAGGING ABOUT COMING IN 2ND WHEN THAT WAS 2ND TO A 2A PROGRAM. That's all I said. It's pretty clear what I'm saying also. The fact that an Atwood is the coach is irrelevant and how hard those kids work is irrelevant to what my argument is. I never said they don't work hard. You're reaching because you can't counter my point because my point is 100% accurate. You can call it an opinion but I call it FACTS to say it's not a good message to send to brag about coming in 2nd to a 2A program. You don't have to agree but none of what I said is in any way negative about the players or a comment on their work ethic. You're creating your own ridiculous argument. |
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Post by Cochino on Feb 24, 2023 21:15:10 GMT -6
Watch and find out who the Rockport finalists are and add an Aledo coach to the mix. I left him out of the show. I also left out of the show that the Lamesa HC and Jordan Chambless of Calallen applied for the Alice job.
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Post by packattack95 on Feb 24, 2023 21:29:04 GMT -6
You don’t know what expectations these boys and their coach have set forth. Joey Atwood had the opportunity to leave but chose to stay for these athletes. He knows what kind of potential they have and he knows they will compete. These boys compete all the time and do a good job of doing so. You yourself have said Refugio should be a 4A classification. Their program is stacked with several athletes with D1 offers most notable being Ernest Campbell for both track and football. You arent close to the program, you don’t live here and dont know squat about what goes on here. But your hate for the Atwoods shines through, and that’s okay. Not too long ago you even said I should interact more and set you all straight every now and then, well I’m telling it like it is. I watch the boys at practice when I can and damn, none of us could ever. But again you’re not there to SEE it for yourself or the effort and discipline the coaches and these athletes put in. It’s all good though. You’re entitled to your opinion. lmfao literally none of the nonsense you just typed has anything to do with my argument. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD LOOK OR SENDS A GOOD MESSAGE FOR A COACH OF A 4A PROGRAM TO BE BRAGGING ABOUT COMING IN 2ND WHEN THAT WAS 2ND TO A 2A PROGRAM. That's all I said. It's pretty clear what I'm saying also. The fact that an Atwood is the coach is irrelevant and how hard those kids work is irrelevant to what my argument is. I never said they don't work hard. You're reaching because you can't counter my point because my point is 100% accurate. You can call it an opinion but I call it FACTS to say it's not a good message to send to brag about coming in 2nd to a 2A program. You don't have to agree but none of what I said is in any way negative about the players or a comment on their work ethic. You're creating your own ridiculous argument. Lmao not sure how it’s bragging. I saw the tweet. Last meet they came in 2nd to a solid 5a program and this week to an elite 2A, yes 2A program, which should be a 4A and he’s bragging? How? I saw the tweet “lots of new PRs in individual events and relays”. Bro that’s an accomplishment and progress nonetheless and they’re only gonna get better. But okay. |
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Post by sotex on Feb 24, 2023 21:55:04 GMT -6
lmfao literally none of the nonsense you just typed has anything to do with my argument. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD LOOK OR SENDS A GOOD MESSAGE FOR A COACH OF A 4A PROGRAM TO BE BRAGGING ABOUT COMING IN 2ND WHEN THAT WAS 2ND TO A 2A PROGRAM. That's all I said. It's pretty clear what I'm saying also. The fact that an Atwood is the coach is irrelevant and how hard those kids work is irrelevant to what my argument is. I never said they don't work hard. You're reaching because you can't counter my point because my point is 100% accurate. You can call it an opinion but I call it FACTS to say it's not a good message to send to brag about coming in 2nd to a 2A program. You don't have to agree but none of what I said is in any way negative about the players or a comment on their work ethic. You're creating your own ridiculous argument. Lmao not sure how it’s bragging. I saw the tweet. Last meet they came in 2nd to a solid 5a program and this week to an elite 2A, yes 2A program, which should be a 4A and he’s bragging? How? I saw the tweet “lots of new PRs in individual events and relays”. Bro that’s an accomplishment and progress nonetheless and they’re only gonna get better. But okay. I don't have a problem with the track program and honestly I think they're doing good. My question is why are you defending the Atwood brothers? I've seen enough to know neither one of them has what it takes to be a successful coach in a football program. Neither one knows how to make adjustments during the game and certainly can't even make them at halftime. Don't even get me started on the discipline issues. |
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Post by packattack95 on Feb 24, 2023 22:16:08 GMT -6
Lmao not sure how it’s bragging. I saw the tweet. Last meet they came in 2nd to a solid 5a program and this week to an elite 2A, yes 2A program, which should be a 4A and he’s bragging? How? I saw the tweet “lots of new PRs in individual events and relays”. Bro that’s an accomplishment and progress nonetheless and they’re only gonna get better. But okay. I don't have a problem with the track program and honestly I think they're doing good. My question is why are you defending the Atwood brothers? I've seen enough to know neither one of them has what it takes to be a successful coach in a football program. Neither one knows how to make adjustments during the game and certainly can't even make them at halftime. Don't even get me started on the discipline issues. what discipline issues? Because I’m close to the situation and the athletic dept. I’ve also got a few close buddies with sons who are key players on the football team. It’s a legit question. Did something happen that I’m not aware of? And especially this year? This was probably the most disciplined team in recent years. Maybe something happened that I’m not aware of. And I’m one that would know if anything had to be addressed with administration especially if it’s regarding the athletic program, academically or disciplinary. Just curious |
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Post by markp3602 on Feb 24, 2023 22:35:50 GMT -6
my opinion is u cant teach speed either u have it or u dont .. if u put that boy from refugio with any higher level of school the dude is still fast . and if u put an alice boy down in the school ranks he would be dominant also. i get it though relays r kinda of a team deal and there is a technique to it . but speed is speed . but i can see when u r accumulating points in track a 2a school should beat any body bigger that has the kids to put up points but heck it is what it is.. the kids at the end of the day bust their tail for themselves and the name across their shirt. and every coach should give is kids credit with also the advice to continue to get better . and push them. sometimes talk is just to hype themselves up . let ur work speak for itself.
Alice school board!!!!!! do better get the right dude in there ! kids deserve it! not yall!!!!
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Post by sotex on Feb 24, 2023 22:58:15 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with the track program and honestly I think they're doing good. My question is why are you defending the Atwood brothers? I've seen enough to know neither one of them has what it takes to be a successful coach in a football program. Neither one knows how to make adjustments during the game and certainly can't even make them at halftime. Don't even get me started on the discipline issues. what discipline issues? Because I’m close to the situation and the athletic dept. I’ve also got a few close buddies with sons who are key players on the football team. It’s a legit question. Did something happen that I’m not aware of? And especially this year? This was probably the most disciplined team in recent years. Maybe something happened that I’m not aware of. And I’m one that would know if anything had to be addressed with administration especially if it’s regarding the athletic program, academically or disciplinary. Just curious Lol either you're playing dumb or honestly don't know what has happened in the past. Edit: Not these kids, but kids from a few years ago. Now back to the present, as it has been in the past and I'll use this scenario for an example. Me and another alumni went to the King game this year. I saw before the play a blown assignment in the secondary. Now that's not unusual, it happens. What bothers me is when the defense comes off the field, that the DC doesn't have the kids huddled and looking over the play. Ffs, back in my day you had runners going to the press box and bringing down index cards with x's and 0'S and the coordinators going over the plays. Now we have a DC with a backwards cap cheering on the offense instead of having his defense going over the last series and making adjustments. |
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Post by packattack95 on Feb 24, 2023 23:06:05 GMT -6
what discipline issues? Because I’m close to the situation and the athletic dept. I’ve also got a few close buddies with sons who are key players on the football team. It’s a legit question. Did something happen that I’m not aware of? And especially this year? This was probably the most disciplined team in recent years. Maybe something happened that I’m not aware of. And I’m one that would know if anything had to be addressed with administration especially if it’s regarding the athletic program, academically or disciplinary. Just curious Lol either you're playing dumb or honestly don't know what has happened in the past. Okay I thought you meant this season. I’m well aware of certain issues that got swept under the rug in the past, going back the last 8 years at least. No excuse for it. Happens with every program too unfortunately. |
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Post by sotex on Feb 24, 2023 23:24:43 GMT -6
Lol either you're playing dumb or honestly don't know what has happened in the past. Okay I thought you meant this season. I’m well aware of certain issues that got swept under the rug in the past, going back the last 8 years at least. No excuse for it. Happens with every program too unfortunately. I edited my post, and yes it does happen with some programs, but the good programs take out the trash no matter how good they are. It serves as an example as what is expected for future athletes. |
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Post by packattack95 on Feb 25, 2023 6:32:26 GMT -6
Okay I thought you meant this season. I’m well aware of certain issues that got swept under the rug in the past, going back the last 8 years at least. No excuse for it. Happens with every program too unfortunately. I edited my post, and yes it does happen with some programs, but the good programs take out the trash no matter how good they are. It serves as an example as what is expected for future athletes. I know of several incidents that were addressed and handled accordingly, but I also know of others over the last several years, that after some type of decision was made, the parents would go over the AD/HC and straight to the board. Not the superintendent, the board. And these kids that think they’re above the law have parents that are buddies with the board and people here at central office. Then suddenly there is no issue, they didn’t break certain rules and athletic policies listed in the handbook, and so the AD/HC hands are tied. Now keep in mind some of those board members have been in office for a very long time, and they’re still there. Just putting it out there. There is no way these trustees can say it doesn’t happen because I know for a fact in the past that it has. |
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Feb 25, 2023 7:58:10 GMT -6
I edited my post, and yes it does happen with some programs, but the good programs take out the trash no matter how good they are. It serves as an example as what is expected for future athletes. I know of several incidents that were addressed and handled accordingly, but I also know of others over the last several years, that after some type of decision was made, the parents would go over the AD/HC and straight to the board. Not the superintendent, the board. And these kids that think they’re above the law have parents that are buddies with the board and people here at central office. Then suddenly there is no issue, they didn’t break certain rules and athletic policies listed in the handbook, and so the AD/HC hands are tied. Now keep in mind some of those board members have been in office for a very long time, and they’re still there. Just putting it out there. There is no way these trustees can say it doesn’t happen because I know for a fact in the past that it has. Is this the reasons Sosa left? |
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Post by packattack95 on Feb 25, 2023 8:12:44 GMT -6
I know of several incidents that were addressed and handled accordingly, but I also know of others over the last several years, that after some type of decision was made, the parents would go over the AD/HC and straight to the board. Not the superintendent, the board. And these kids that think they’re above the law have parents that are buddies with the board and people here at central office. Then suddenly there is no issue, they didn’t break certain rules and athletic policies listed in the handbook, and so the AD/HC hands are tied. Now keep in mind some of those board members have been in office for a very long time, and they’re still there. Just putting it out there. There is no way these trustees can say it doesn’t happen because I know for a fact in the past that it has. Is this the reasons Sosa left? Yes sir one of many reasons why |
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Post by Cochino on Feb 25, 2023 9:32:25 GMT -6
lmfao literally none of the nonsense you just typed has anything to do with my argument. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD LOOK OR SENDS A GOOD MESSAGE FOR A COACH OF A 4A PROGRAM TO BE BRAGGING ABOUT COMING IN 2ND WHEN THAT WAS 2ND TO A 2A PROGRAM. That's all I said. It's pretty clear what I'm saying also. The fact that an Atwood is the coach is irrelevant and how hard those kids work is irrelevant to what my argument is. I never said they don't work hard. You're reaching because you can't counter my point because my point is 100% accurate. You can call it an opinion but I call it FACTS to say it's not a good message to send to brag about coming in 2nd to a 2A program. You don't have to agree but none of what I said is in any way negative about the players or a comment on their work ethic. You're creating your own ridiculous argument. Lmao not sure how it’s bragging. I saw the tweet. Last meet they came in 2nd to a solid 5a program and this week to an elite 2A, yes 2A program, which should be a 4A and he’s bragging? How? I saw the tweet “lots of new PRs in individual events and relays”. Bro that’s an accomplishment and progress nonetheless and they’re only gonna get better. But okay. I'd be fine with bragging on the PR's that were set. But when you put, "Results are in! Another 2nd place finish for the Alice Coyote Varsity track team!" With ! and how it's worded it looks like a brag and that's a brag about finishing 2nd to a 2A program. You can call me petty or a hater if you want but THAT stuff in my opinion, or at least the thinking that comes behind it, is exactly what separates the elites from Alice. If you're cool with just getting by then good for you but don't hate on me for wishing for something more for Alice athletics. And I'm not sure you understand how high school sports work because that's multiple times now that you say Refugio should be 4A. No they shouldn't. |
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Post by Cochino on Feb 25, 2023 9:40:51 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with the track program and honestly I think they're doing good. My question is why are you defending the Atwood brothers? I've seen enough to know neither one of them has what it takes to be a successful coach in a football program. Neither one knows how to make adjustments during the game and certainly can't even make them at halftime. Don't even get me started on the discipline issues. what discipline issues? Because I’m close to the situation and the athletic dept. I’ve also got a few close buddies with sons who are key players on the football team. It’s a legit question. Did something happen that I’m not aware of? And especially this year? This was probably the most disciplined team in recent years. Maybe something happened that I’m not aware of. And I’m one that would know if anything had to be addressed with administration especially if it’s regarding the athletic program, academically or disciplinary. Just curious You're just going to pretend the freshmen team's season wasn't suspended because of locker room fighting and discipline issues? I think it was the freshman team I can't remember. Bunch of kids were arrested for it were they not? Maybe if we use a different word other than "discipline" you'll understand... "CULTURE". The culture is just different with the player/coach dynamic from what it was in the past with Alice. Coach Willie is the only one I ever see yelling and holding players accountable on those sidelines and he just got to Alice last season. Before that I didn't see any of that while roaming those sidelines. Hell I remember Alice getting whooped by Southside in 2018 losing 70 something to garbage and Alice players on the sidelines taunting Southside players that were lining up to kickoff because they had just scored the 70 something. I couldn't believe the stupidity in that or that being how the players think. You're getting your ass whooped by 50 or whatever it was and you want to taunt the opponent? And no coaches said anything. This is why I'm happy to have Coach Willie on staff because he absolutely does hold the players accountable and he's the 1 coach already on staff that I wouldn't have minded seeing apply for the HC/AD opening. |
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