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Post by Hounhound on Jul 17, 2022 19:27:57 GMT -6
Like I said Two Years ago. Thanks for the conformation. And they ARE still allowing Waivers too. Maybe Not as Many But you just said..... The boundary change is unrelated to your argument that people attending Vets live outside of the boundary. Lol People living outside of the new Vets boundary are literally no longer allowed to attend Vets… even if they have siblings that are still attending Vets. That’s about as hardcore as it can get. And prior to that change, it was the same thing only the boundary was bigger. You live where you live, and you attend the school in that boundary…. Unless of course you go to Flour Bluff, then you can live anywhere. FB has nothing to do with this discussion. You just said they still allow a few waivers. Thats not ZERO. If they are a really good athlete, they can go to Vet's. We have been watching CCISD football way before Vet's came along. They have been Shady for a long long time. You denying will not change anyones mind.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 17, 2022 21:12:58 GMT -6
The boundary change is unrelated to your argument that people attending Vets live outside of the boundary. Lol People living outside of the new Vets boundary are literally no longer allowed to attend Vets… even if they have siblings that are still attending Vets. That’s about as hardcore as it can get. And prior to that change, it was the same thing only the boundary was bigger. You live where you live, and you attend the school in that boundary…. Unless of course you go to Flour Bluff, then you can live anywhere. FB has nothing to do with this discussion. You just said they still allow a few waivers. Thats not ZERO. If they are a really good athlete, they can go to Vet's. We have been watching CCISD football way before Vet's came along. They have been Shady for a long long time. You denying will not change anyones mind. Please share your long list of really good athletes that have lived outside of the Vets boundary, and attended and played for Vets. I’d love to see this list, honestly. Maybe you can actually provide proof and change my mind.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 18, 2022 7:50:34 GMT -6
1 RB to carry the Team is not going to amount to wins. If you look at the points scored last season Vs what they gave up. Well, that won't get it done either. They will play closer games hopefully. But the wins just won't be there. Are you taking into account the new coaching regime, and excitement of the new school? New facilities? And actually, a new emphasis on who Carroll is and will become? I mean, they call themselves “The Program” and they have a countdown to “The Takeover” which happens this fall. Gotta give Carroll credit for coming out guns blazing. Belief is step one. Follow that up with hard work, and you’re more than halfway there. All good stuff right up until you get hit square in the mouth. Let's see what happens then.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 18, 2022 9:01:55 GMT -6
Like I said Two Years ago. Thanks for the conformation. And they ARE still allowing Waivers too. Maybe Not as Many But you just said..... The boundary change is unrelated to your argument that people attending Vets live outside of the boundary. Lol People living outside of the new Vets boundary are literally no longer allowed to attend Vets… even if they have siblings that are still attending Vets. That’s about as hardcore as it can get. And prior to that change, it was the same thing only the boundary was bigger. You live where you live, and you attend the school in that boundary…. Unless of course you go to Flour Bluff, then you can live anywhere. Come on man.. The CCISD has long played lose with transfer rules and boundaries. They allow it because they have those magnet programs integrated in certain high schools instead of having them in their own stand alone. Miller has the School of Design.... Moody has the Medical Professions..... Ray has the International Baccalaureate... Carroll has the only FFA/Ag Program in the CCISD ... Not sure what poor ol' King has as they seem to be the ugly step sister of the CCISD for some reason. But the CCISD transfer rules are not as ironclad as you make them out to be. And your comparison to FB is way off line because they've been an open enrollment district and some much disclose this up front. Calallen did this too along with TM ( who I still think is). But you are comparing apple with oranges because FB and the others are one high school ISD's which the CCISD is not. The issue is not the same. Your issue is where one high school got a significant boost and siphoned students from outside it's attendance zone when it didn't have to go down that way.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 18, 2022 9:43:48 GMT -6
The boundary change is unrelated to your argument that people attending Vets live outside of the boundary. Lol People living outside of the new Vets boundary are literally no longer allowed to attend Vets… even if they have siblings that are still attending Vets. That’s about as hardcore as it can get. And prior to that change, it was the same thing only the boundary was bigger. You live where you live, and you attend the school in that boundary…. Unless of course you go to Flour Bluff, then you can live anywhere. Come on man.. The CCISD has long played lose with transfer rules and boundaries. They allow it because they have those magnet programs integrated in certain high schools instead of having them in their own stand alone. Miller has the School of Design.... Moody has the Medical Professions..... Ray has the International Baccalaureate... Carroll has the only FFA/Ag Program in the CCISD ... Not sure what poor ol' King has as they seem to be the ugly step sister of the CCISD for some reason. But the CCISD transfer rules are not as ironclad as you make them out to be. And your comparison to FB is way off line because they've been an open enrollment district and some much disclose this up front. Calallen did this too along with TM ( who I still think is). But you are comparing apple with oranges because FB and the others are one high school ISD's which the CCISD is not. The issue is not the same. Your issue is where one high school got a significant boost and siphoned students from outside it's attendance zone when it didn't have to go down that way. The issue kinda is the same. Flour Bluff gets the best of the best kids from Corpus... if that kid wants to go to the Bluff, he or she goes. There's a kid from London joining FB in the 8th grade this season. Huge QB that tore FB up last season... within 2 weeks of the game, my FB kid tells me he's joining FB next year. Yet my other kid can't go to Vets? Even though his sister was still a senior at Vets? And they live in the same house? Cmon man. And at least 1 kid that lives on the southside made it to State in track wearing a maroon uniform this past spring. Vets gets attacked for shiz they aren't even doing... while FB skates by doing actual real shiz.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 18, 2022 9:50:36 GMT -6
Come on man.. The CCISD has long played lose with transfer rules and boundaries. They allow it because they have those magnet programs integrated in certain high schools instead of having them in their own stand alone. Miller has the School of Design.... Moody has the Medical Professions..... Ray has the International Baccalaureate... Carroll has the only FFA/Ag Program in the CCISD ... Not sure what poor ol' King has as they seem to be the ugly step sister of the CCISD for some reason. But the CCISD transfer rules are not as ironclad as you make them out to be. And your comparison to FB is way off line because they've been an open enrollment district and some much disclose this up front. Calallen did this too along with TM ( who I still think is). But you are comparing apple with oranges because FB and the others are one high school ISD's which the CCISD is not. The issue is not the same. Your issue is where one high school got a significant boost and siphoned students from outside it's attendance zone when it didn't have to go down that way. The issue kinda is the same. Flour Bluff gets the best of the best kids from Corpus... if that kid wants to go to the Bluff, he or she goes. There's a kid from London joining FB in the 8th grade this season. Huge QB that tore FB up last season... within 2 weeks of the game, my FB kid tells me he's joining FB next year. Yet my other kid can't go to Vets? Even though his sister was still a senior at Vets? And they live in the same house? Cmon man. And at least 1 kid that lives on the southside made it to State in track wearing a maroon uniform this past spring. If Flour Bluff was part of the CCISD, you might have a good point...
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 18, 2022 12:33:52 GMT -6
Come on man.. The CCISD has long played lose with transfer rules and boundaries. They allow it because they have those magnet programs integrated in certain high schools instead of having them in their own stand alone. Miller has the School of Design.... Moody has the Medical Professions..... Ray has the International Baccalaureate... Carroll has the only FFA/Ag Program in the CCISD ... Not sure what poor ol' King has as they seem to be the ugly step sister of the CCISD for some reason. But the CCISD transfer rules are not as ironclad as you make them out to be. And your comparison to FB is way off line because they've been an open enrollment district and some much disclose this up front. Calallen did this too along with TM ( who I still think is). But you are comparing apple with oranges because FB and the others are one high school ISD's which the CCISD is not. The issue is not the same. Your issue is where one high school got a significant boost and siphoned students from outside it's attendance zone when it didn't have to go down that way. The issue kinda is the same. Flour Bluff gets the best of the best kids from Corpus... if that kid wants to go to the Bluff, he or she goes. There's a kid from London joining FB in the 8th grade this season. Huge QB that tore FB up last season... within 2 weeks of the game, my FB kid tells me he's joining FB next year. Yet my other kid can't go to Vets? Even though his sister was still a senior at Vets? And they live in the same house? Cmon man.And at least 1 kid that lives on the southside made it to State in track wearing a maroon uniform this past spring. Vets gets attacked for shiz they aren't even doing... while FB skates by doing actual real shiz. This isn't anything new. Hell, my sister had 3 kids and the oldest went through Clemens, the next had the option to go to either Clemens of Steele and elected to go to Steele because she new her younger brother would be HAVE TO GO to Steele in just a couple more years. She wanted to be at the same school as her younger brother to make it a little easier on their parents. It worked out well as she was on 2 state basketball tournament teams.
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 18, 2022 15:00:57 GMT -6
The issue kinda is the same. Flour Bluff gets the best of the best kids from Corpus... if that kid wants to go to the Bluff, he or she goes. There's a kid from London joining FB in the 8th grade this season. Huge QB that tore FB up last season... within 2 weeks of the game, my FB kid tells me he's joining FB next year. Yet my other kid can't go to Vets? Even though his sister was still a senior at Vets? And they live in the same house? Cmon man. And at least 1 kid that lives on the southside made it to State in track wearing a maroon uniform this past spring. If Flour Bluff was part of the CCISD, you might have a good point... He refuses to understand the difference between a multi-school ISD and a single school ISD. And see how CCISD is screwing over kids. EVEN HIS.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 19, 2022 6:06:19 GMT -6
If Flour Bluff was part of the CCISD, you might have a good point... He refuses to understand the difference between a multi-school ISD and a single school ISD. And see how CCISD is screwing over kids. EVEN HIS. Exactly. When you have a more than one school in a district, the kids go where they are supposed to go according to their addresses and the borderlines drawn. Hell, we watched SCUCISD redraw the Clemens/Steele borderlines MULTIPLE times the first 8 years Steele opened trying to balance the enrollments. MANY families with multiple kids watched them graduate from different schools.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 19, 2022 8:20:14 GMT -6
He refuses to understand the difference between a multi-school ISD and a single school ISD. And see how CCISD is screwing over kids. EVEN HIS. Exactly. When you have a more than one school in a district, the kids go where they are supposed to go according to their addresses and the borderlines drawn. Hell, we watched SCUCISD redraw the Clemens/Steele borderlines MULTIPLE times the first 8 years Steele opened trying to balance the enrollments. MANY families with multiple kids watched them graduate from different schools. Oh I get it. What I'm pointing out is that "others" on here don't get it. They keep saying that Vets is taking the best of the best from all of CC... and that's just not the case. Vets had open enrollment for 2 years. The school opened in 2015... so that means Vets has had only kids within it's boundary for FIVE YEARS ALREADY. And I had a kid in the school in 2016... so I was close to the team. I can't name one single player that I knew was playing from a different part of town in those first 2 years, nor throughout Vets' history.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 19, 2022 9:05:34 GMT -6
Exactly. When you have a more than one school in a district, the kids go where they are supposed to go according to their addresses and the borderlines drawn. Hell, we watched SCUCISD redraw the Clemens/Steele borderlines MULTIPLE times the first 8 years Steele opened trying to balance the enrollments. MANY families with multiple kids watched them graduate from different schools. Oh I get it. What I'm pointing out is that "others" on here don't get it. They keep saying that Vets is taking the best of the best from all of CC... and that's just not the case. Vets had open enrollment for 2 years. The school opened in 2015... so that means Vets has had only kids within it's boundary for FIVE YEARS ALREADY. And I had a kid in the school in 2016... so I was close to the team. I can't name one single player that I knew was playing from a different part of town in those first 2 years, nor throughout Vets' history. We're going to believe our own eyes. Tell yourself whatever you need to hear.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 19, 2022 9:19:36 GMT -6
Oh I get it. What I'm pointing out is that "others" on here don't get it. They keep saying that Vets is taking the best of the best from all of CC... and that's just not the case. Vets had open enrollment for 2 years. The school opened in 2015... so that means Vets has had only kids within it's boundary for FIVE YEARS ALREADY. And I had a kid in the school in 2016... so I was close to the team. I can't name one single player that I knew was playing from a different part of town in those first 2 years, nor throughout Vets' history. We're going to believe our own eyes. Tell yourself whatever you need to hear. Ok, and FB will just continue to literally do what everyone falsely accuses Vets of doing… and smile. Because, you know, that’s just the way it works around here. But it’s all good, because I’ll be enjoying the fruits of that system in 3 or so years when my FB kids join varsity.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 19, 2022 9:39:45 GMT -6
We're going to believe our own eyes. Tell yourself whatever you need to hear. Ok, and FB will just continue to literally do what everyone falsely accuses Vets of doing… and smile. Because, you know, that’s just the way it works around here. But it’s all good, because I’ll be enjoying the fruits of that system in 3 or so years when my FB kids join varsity. What will it cost us to get you to not post then?
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 19, 2022 9:57:19 GMT -6
Ok, and FB will just continue to literally do what everyone falsely accuses Vets of doing… and smile. Because, you know, that’s just the way it works around here. But it’s all good, because I’ll be enjoying the fruits of that system in 3 or so years when my FB kids join varsity. What will it cost us to get you to not post then?
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 19, 2022 10:25:25 GMT -6
We're going to believe our own eyes. Tell yourself whatever you need to hear. Ok, and FB will just continue to literally do what everyone falsely accuses Vets of doing… and smile. Because, you know, that’s just the way it works around here. But it’s all good, because I’ll be enjoying the fruits of that system in 3 or so years when my FB kids join varsity. There you go comparing FB to CCISD again. If CCISD had open enrollment, Which I don't think a Multi school ISD can do, things could be equal. As long as FB has Open enrollment they are not bending any rules. But Vet's had waivers well after the two years you speak of. You said that yourself. College Station redrew boundaries after the 2020 realignment. But allowed some students to finish HS where they started. This Latest realignment shows what proper planning did when CSHS and Consol both had numbers within 3 students of each other. Now why can't CCISD do the same thing and get all the schools within 50 of each other. I know it would be more difficult balancing 6 vs 2 schools. But Doesn't CCISD have some intelligent folks working there? This should be able to be done. And should have been done when Vet's first OPENED
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