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Post by AledoAlumni on Jul 24, 2021 15:42:57 GMT -6
I’m going to check on this with his fam (they are kin). I just can’t see Matt not playing football. This has to be wrong. He's really good at baseball and apparently getting offers. It's not wrong. He's opting baseball only. Aledo had a starting LB win state as a junior then quit his senior year to focus on baseball. If he stays then he is on the team last year that beats Crosby. Some kids play both sports but like baseball better. Or they feel like that is the better opportunity for a scholarship. Like you said its not wrong, its their choice. All you can hope is that they dont regret it when they get older.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 16:10:33 GMT -6
He's really good at baseball and apparently getting offers. It's not wrong. He's opting baseball only. Aledo had a starting LB win state as a junior then quit his senior year to focus on baseball. If he stays then he is on the team last year that beats Crosby. Some kids play both sports but like baseball better. Or they feel like that is the better opportunity for a scholarship. Like you said its not wrong, its their choice. All you can hope is that they dont regret it when they get older. They will regret as they get older and don't make the MLB.
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 24, 2021 17:51:30 GMT -6
Aledo had a starting LB win state as a junior then quit his senior year to focus on baseball. If he stays then he is on the team last year that beats Crosby. Some kids play both sports but like baseball better. Or they feel like that is the better opportunity for a scholarship. Like you said its not wrong, its their choice. All you can hope is that they dont regret it when they get older. They will regret as they get older and don't make the MLB. Some won't even get a college scholarship for baseball, Then mommy and Daddy will realize all that money spent was wasted and that AAU Coach was full of ****.
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Post by AledoAlumni on Jul 24, 2021 18:05:59 GMT -6
Aledo had a starting LB win state as a junior then quit his senior year to focus on baseball. If he stays then he is on the team last year that beats Crosby. Some kids play both sports but like baseball better. Or they feel like that is the better opportunity for a scholarship. Like you said its not wrong, its their choice. All you can hope is that they dont regret it when they get older. They will regret as they get older and don't make the MLB. Maybe, maybe not. Football is not every kids favorite sport.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 24, 2021 19:32:12 GMT -6
They will regret as they get older and don't make the MLB. Maybe, maybe not. Football is not every kids favorite sport. More times than not, it’s the parents pushing it. If you get that far like that kid into their Senior year playing football, you probably like it. I’ve seen it locally with kids who went to school with mine and some before who will tell you they regret not staying in football or other sports like basketball because they were forced to give it all up do to being pressed to do so by several parties. Again with promises of playing time and colleges knocking on the door with offers galore. When they got to their Senior years and discovered, one they were not getting the playing time (especially Pitchers) they were somewhat promised they would get . And two, their mailboxes were not overflowing with mail with scholli offers, it was too late to go back to some of those other sports. Especially if they quit their Freshmen or Sophomore years. I guess the thing that ticked me off the most were those kids who were persuaded to quit all other sports before they got into high school realizing when they got into high school after a year or two, they been had and give up baseball and don’t return to some of those other sports they quit before high school and end up out of athletics all together. And sadly in some cases in trouble with the law or struggling with grades…. Or both.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 24, 2021 19:50:25 GMT -6
They will regret as they get older and don't make the MLB. Some won't even get a college scholarship for baseball, Then mommy and Daddy will realize all that money spent was wasted and that AAU Coach was full of ****. It will never go back sadly unless a whole generation of parents start saying no. But somehow a whole bunch of MLB players did ok when they were younger playing in the local Summer Rec., Connie Mack, or American Legion . They got scholarship offers and MLB chances without some much sniffing a baseball field in the fall. And guess what? Once August came around, many of them were ready for real football two a days which lasted a whole month. I don’t know where this all got off track? I know locally what helped it along in Corpus and the Coastal Bend is for a few years starting around 2008 or 2009, we had several high school players make it to major college programs and even the Bigs out of high school and some of these select teams they played for really used them to market themselves and parents wanted their kids to be part of that. The problem became when some of these select organizations quit being “select” and just became money making machines allowing any kid to play. Plus you don’t know what kind of drug it is for some moms in particular to be a “baseball mom.” I guess some of them like it because they form cliques if you will which allows them to post and tag each other on social media endlessly. Lol!
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Post by Saltydog on Jul 25, 2021 6:23:23 GMT -6
They will regret as they get older and don't make the MLB. Maybe, maybe not. Football is not every kids favorite sport. I agree with you it is not always about best chance to get a scholarship my nephew at Victoria East chose to play basketball only because he loves the sport. I do know the coaches would love to have him on the football team but his heart would not be in it he loves basketball and plays and practices year round.
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Post by AledoAlumni on Jul 25, 2021 6:34:24 GMT -6
Maybe, maybe not. Football is not every kids favorite sport. I agree with you it is not always about best chance to get a scholarship my nephew at Victoria East chose to play basketball only because he loves the sport. I do know the coaches would love to have him on the football team but his heart would not be in it he loves basketball and plays and practices year round. Lets say your nephew were to play football but got hurt and couldnt play basketball. He would absolutely regret that decision more than if he skipped football to focus on basketball. We all know the risk of injury is much higher in football than just about any other major sport kids play in high school. Some kids/parents dont want to take that risk of injury.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 25, 2021 8:41:10 GMT -6
I agree with you it is not always about best chance to get a scholarship my nephew at Victoria East chose to play basketball only because he loves the sport. I do know the coaches would love to have him on the football team but his heart would not be in it he loves basketball and plays and practices year round. Lets say your nephew were to play football but got hurt and couldnt play basketball. He would absolutely regret that decision more than if he skipped football to focus on basketball. We all know the risk of injury is much higher in football than just about any other major sport kids play in high school. Some kids/parents dont want to take that risk of injury. A few years ago we had a group of kids who were real good in football and baseball. A few of them waffled between going baseball only and playing both. During the spring and summer it became speculation whether they were going to play football or not and the reason used for them not to come out for football was the injury fear card. At the end of the day they came out for football too, but their season was delayed due to injuries they received not due to football. I think two had baseball related injuries and another blew out a shoulder doing CrossFit like weight training. If it was my kid and he had a big schollie offer or even Pro potential out of high school, I’d leave it all to him and not put the the thumb on the scale one way or another. Likewise I would tell those making the offers to bug off and let him make the decision. I would no way see the opportunity as an RTI (return on investment) and you can bet you bottom dollar some parents see this. And probably more so with parents who have resources vs those who don’t.
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Post by AledoAlumni on Jul 25, 2021 9:03:58 GMT -6
Lets say your nephew were to play football but got hurt and couldnt play basketball. He would absolutely regret that decision more than if he skipped football to focus on basketball. We all know the risk of injury is much higher in football than just about any other major sport kids play in high school. Some kids/parents dont want to take that risk of injury. If it was my kid and he had a big schollie offer or even Pro potential out of high school, I’d leave it all to him and not put the the thumb on the scale one way or another. Honestly I think thats not the best way to go about it. Thats a lot of responsibility to leave up to a 17/18 year old. You should still be apart of the process to help guide the kid even though you are leaving it up to them.
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Post by SintonFan_InAustin on Jul 25, 2021 9:08:53 GMT -6
Some won't even get a college scholarship for baseball, Then mommy and Daddy will realize all that money spent was wasted and that AAU Coach was full of ****. It will never go back sadly unless a whole generation of parents start saying no. But somehow a whole bunch of MLB players did ok when they were younger playing in the local Summer Rec., Connie Mack, or American Legion . They got scholarship offers and MLB chances without some much sniffing a baseball field in the fall. And guess what? Once August came around, many of them were ready for real football two a days which lasted a whole month. I don’t know where this all got off track? I know locally what helped it along in Corpus and the Coastal Bend is for a few years starting around 2008 or 2009, we had several high school players make it to major college programs and even the Bigs out of high school and some of these select teams they played for really used them to market themselves and parents wanted their kids to be part of that. The problem became when some of these select organizations quit being “select” and just became money making machines allowing any kid to play. Plus you don’t know what kind of drug it is for some moms in particular to be a “baseball mom.” I guess some of them like it because they form cliques if you will which allows them to post and tag each other on social media endlessly. Lol! Sinton around 7 with commitments and 6 of them play football. Few years ago several chose to do only baseball or basketball and no football. From some earlier reports Ryaln Galvan commit to Texas was that he was allowed to play football also back since his freshman year when he committed to Texas. I've seen some get burn out of constant baseball and to me seem they had better sophomore years than their junior and senior years when they went fully committed to baseball,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 11:46:27 GMT -6
I agree with you it is not always about best chance to get a scholarship my nephew at Victoria East chose to play basketball only because he loves the sport. I do know the coaches would love to have him on the football team but his heart would not be in it he loves basketball and plays and practices year round. Lets say your nephew were to play football but got hurt and couldnt play basketball. He would absolutely regret that decision more than if he skipped football to focus on basketball. We all know the risk of injury is much higher in football than just about any other major sport kids play in high school. Some kids/parents dont want to take that risk of injury. I guarantee you 99.9% of the time it's the parent's and baseball coaches influencing the kid to give up football. That's where I have the biggest problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 11:47:35 GMT -6
Maybe, maybe not. Football is not every kids favorite sport. I agree with you it is not always about best chance to get a scholarship my nephew at Victoria East chose to play basketball only because he loves the sport. I do know the coaches would love to have him on the football team but his heart would not be in it he loves basketball and plays and practices year round. If someone is playing football all the way up until senior season before they quit then I would assume they DO love football and were unfortunately influenced by either parents or a baseball coach to give up football.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 25, 2021 13:30:57 GMT -6
If it was my kid and he had a big schollie offer or even Pro potential out of high school, I’d leave it all to him and not put the the thumb on the scale one way or another. Honestly I think thats not the best way to go about it. Thats a lot of responsibility to leave up to a 17/18 year old. You should still be apart of the process to help guide the kid even though you are leaving it up to them. I should’ve said this a tad bit better. No doubt parents have to be involved. I guess it’s more like Mom/Dad saying “ you have a shot at the big time, you are going to quit everything including missing your Proms, Homecoming, etc. to focus on getting a 40% ride.” Or “ damn gum it son, your great grand father , grandfather, dad and brothers played football here, you are too whether you like it or not.” I definitely think Kids need to see both sides of the coin, especially where some very prominent coaches prefer multi sport athletes. Unfortunately most of those college coaches are football and basketball coaches and not enough baseball coaches have the megaphone loud enough to advocate the same thing. But if you talk to them in person or hear them in small public forum, they are saying the same things. Especially since they are seeing the evidence of repetitive arm injuries and even more hip problems are starting to rear its ugly heads. What I don’t like is when a coach or coaches effectively puts an ultimatum at a young high schooler suggesting he is waisting time playing those other sports and he would “benefit” from focusing on baseball. And when the answer is no from the kid, they double down and put on the pressure to the point they involve the parents to help make the decision. And of course some parent interpret as my kid will not get playing time, so they go along to get along. Do not discount how much of a clique the baseball parents clubs become. And from observation as far as putting pressure on their kids to go baseball only, I’ve seen a number of moms driving that train.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 25, 2021 13:38:36 GMT -6
It will never go back sadly unless a whole generation of parents start saying no. But somehow a whole bunch of MLB players did ok when they were younger playing in the local Summer Rec., Connie Mack, or American Legion . They got scholarship offers and MLB chances without some much sniffing a baseball field in the fall. And guess what? Once August came around, many of them were ready for real football two a days which lasted a whole month. I don’t know where this all got off track? I know locally what helped it along in Corpus and the Coastal Bend is for a few years starting around 2008 or 2009, we had several high school players make it to major college programs and even the Bigs out of high school and some of these select teams they played for really used them to market themselves and parents wanted their kids to be part of that. The problem became when some of these select organizations quit being “select” and just became money making machines allowing any kid to play. Plus you don’t know what kind of drug it is for some moms in particular to be a “baseball mom.” I guess some of them like it because they form cliques if you will which allows them to post and tag each other on social media endlessly. Lol! Sinton around 7 with commitments and 6 of them play football. Few years ago several chose to do only baseball or basketball and no football. From some earlier reports Ryaln Galvan commit to Texas was that he was allowed to play football also back since his freshman year when he committed to Texas. I've seen some get burn out of constant baseball and to me seem they had better sophomore years than their junior and senior years when they went fully committed to baseball, Yep. That’s the same pattern I’ve seen. After a few of our seasons ended earlier than expected in the playoffs with kids who had expectations put on them since Little League, the body language with a few of them at the time was like they were glad it was finally over. Five or six years after graduation some verbally confirmed they were burnt out. Many of those were some of the first on the select league wave here locally. The ones who play in tourneys 50 weekends a year if they could and tried playing league ball too where they would get done at the league field and get rushed across town to play in a tourney. Even the as 4th, 5th and 6th graders you could see they were tired at time. But it was very entertaining to see some moms have hissy fits about how they were going to be late to their next game. Lmao.
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