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Post by warrior1520 on May 3, 2016 8:39:04 GMT -6
You are wrong. He pitched the night before. That's why he didn't start on Saturday. Sorry, but YOU are wrong. He started the game he got injured. He was fully rested. I can't imagine how many times you've told your error-filled concocted story in order to make some point, but it's been enough times that now even you believe it. You say "I saw Chapman" do this and do that, but in reality, you did not see it because it never happened. You might want to use a different story when arguing your point. Maybe a true one, or at least one that is not so easily debunked and remembered well by so many other people. This news blip is all I can find on JJ's injury verses Moody that year and I can't find anything about him pitching game 1 of that series only starting game 2 and pitching in the previous series against Lake Travis where he was heard complaining of arm pain. Posted: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:13 AM - 2608 Readers By: Tyler Garrett Calallen's Jordan John's injury to his throwing arm is a bit more serious then previously thought. The lefty will now need Tommy John surgery to repair the damage. The Oklahoma signee was caught wincing on the mound in the third inning of game two versus Moody. However, that was not the first time he showed signs of a problem; many overheard him complaining of pain during the previous Lake Travis series. Calallen Head Coach Steve Chapman confirmed Wednesday afternoon that John would have the surgery later in the month. KRIS 6 Sports will keep post more details as soon as they become available. * Story Contributed by: Tyler Garrett Read more: texas4asports.proboards.com/thread/5609/uil-proposed-rules#ixzz47bUs2WJJ
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Post by catfromwayback on May 5, 2016 20:32:40 GMT -6
Crickets. Lol
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Post by tomcat on May 6, 2016 7:20:49 GMT -6
You are wrong. He pitched the night before. That's why he didn't start on Saturday. Sorry, but YOU are wrong. He started the game he got injured. He was fully rested. I can't imagine how many times you've told your error-filled concocted story in order to make some point, but it's been enough times that now even you believe it. You say "I saw Chapman" do this and do that, but in reality, you did not see it because it never happened. You might want to use a different story when arguing your point. Maybe a true one, or at least one that is not so easily debunked and remembered well by so many other people. You are correct. JJ pitched against Lake Travis the Friday before the Moody game in game one of that series, but he also did pitch in relieve on Saturday in game three for at least a partial inning to close the out the game. He hurt his arm in game two of the Moody series and was dominant up to the point of the injury that occurred. This would have been on 6 days rest. I do agree with some that Chapman relies too much on his top pitchers and throws them too much. Not the case this year as it seems it has been more of a group effort. The game with Lee May against Alamo Heights should have never occurred like that. They had a rested and ready Duarte ready to go, but they did not call him in until the damage was done.
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Post by picodegallo on May 6, 2016 8:06:25 GMT -6
Sorry, but YOU are wrong. He started the game he got injured. He was fully rested. I can't imagine how many times you've told your error-filled concocted story in order to make some point, but it's been enough times that now even you believe it. You say "I saw Chapman" do this and do that, but in reality, you did not see it because it never happened. You might want to use a different story when arguing your point. Maybe a true one, or at least one that is not so easily debunked and remembered well by so many other people. You are correct. JJ pitched against Lake Travis the Friday before the Moody game in game one of that series, but he also did pitch in relieve on Saturday in game three for at least a partial inning to close the out the game. He hurt his arm in game two of the Moody series and was dominant up to the point of the injury that occurred. This would have been on 6 days rest. I do agree with some that Chapman relies too much on his top pitchers and throws them too much. Not the case this year as it seems it has been more of a group effort. The game with Lee May against Alamo Heights should have never occurred like that. They had a rested and ready Duarte ready to go, but they did not call him in until the damage was done. If I recall, Durate was having some very minor arm issues and they were trying to keep him out off the mound. I might be wrong, but that was the chatter I heard after that fiasco. I do agree over the balance of the last five or six seasons, we have relied too much on two arms to get us through district and it has a determental effect when playoff time comes. They will use multiple pitchers during the non district/tourney season and it looks like we might get logical system of spreading the pitching duties around and then like clockwork we go to a two man rotation. Last year (like this year) we clinched district with three or four games left on the schedule meaning we were a lock for the first seed and one would think we'd pitch a number three and four pitcher to get some reps in a true game situation in case we needed them in the playoffs. No, we didn't do that and sure enough we got to game three against Georgetown and pitched Durate again and he got rocked and then brought in a kid who hadn't touched the mound since the first week of March. This season we have been forced to embrace the group effort due to not having two dominant Division one college quality arms returning(like we have had for several seasons before this one) and thanks to the number one and two pitchers (Seniors) coming off arm surgery and not having any meaningful mound time since their Sophomore seasons. What is our number three (Junior) really hadn't pitched much in his high school Varsity career and has done and admirable job and what is the number four and five is Sophomore and Freshmen who will be excellent pitchers as they mature. For the balance of the season against better teams, most of them have been able to give a good four to five innings and have had to be relieved. I think this is the road we will have to travel if these proposed UIL regs become official.
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Post by hornet1 on May 6, 2016 9:37:40 GMT -6
It is interesting how many MLB pitchers these days are former position players. Also, the average pitch velocity is steadily increasing. It seems like these position players still have live arms when they are older. I wonder if many of the pitchers only are hurting their arms by pitching so much when younger. It seems like the longer a kid with a good arm can put off pitching, the better his arm is.
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Post by catfromwayback on May 6, 2016 14:57:51 GMT -6
It's my belief that arm damage occurs primarily during youth when arms aren't developed and kids are trying to learn how to throw breaking balls at too early of an age and not getting long rest periods due to playing year-around ball. Parents.....force your young pitchers to sit out periodically for a few months or at minimum, let them play a position other than pitcher during that time and stick to your guns.
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Post by picodegallo on May 6, 2016 15:19:17 GMT -6
It's my belief that arm damage occurs primarily during youth when arms aren't developed and kids are trying to learn how to throw breaking balls at too early of an age and not getting long rest periods due to playing year-around ball. Parents.....force your young pitchers to sit out periodically for a few months or at minimum, let them play a position other than pitcher during that time and stick to your guns. .... and let them play another sport if they want too. A growing number of voices of current and former high school, college and pro baseball players and coaches are saying so much. Playing another sport like football or basketball would force the break from baseball and at the right time since those seasons are in the middle of summer ball and high school or spring league ball if they kid is not yet in high school. Too many kids are being promised schollie $$$$ and for baseball, what most schools award is much less than what some parents are paying for the select league stuff on a year around basis. If the kid has enough talent to make it to the next level in baseball, the scouts won't forget about them. And perhaps coaching staffs from the different universities and pro organizations need to help the situation along and freeze scouting during the fall for a few months.
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Post by FB fan on May 6, 2016 18:53:00 GMT -6
You two guys have just echoed my little League coach from 1962. He was right then too.
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