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Post by rtxc1 on Jun 20, 2019 13:11:08 GMT -6
Perhaps he was referring to UIL football as a whole. But in all of 5A, here's what we had in 2018: 3-7: FB Hightower, FW Eastern Hills, Wichita Falls 4-6: Canutillo, Canyon Randall, Manor, Sherman So 6 losing records out of 128 playoff teams, or 5%. Add in 17 (I counted twice but could be off) teams with a 5-5 record and there are 23/128 playoff teams that are average or below average in record, or 18%. But you see this the most in 4A since it is the smallest classification by number of schools. He said losing record so 5% in D2. I agree in lower classifications that number is probably higher due to the lack of teams. I'm curious what many is. 35%? 40%? That's subjective, but for me, an average of more than 1 per region would be "many". So anything more than 6%. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 13:15:28 GMT -6
He said losing record so 5% in D2. I agree in lower classifications that number is probably higher due to the lack of teams. I'm curious what many is. 35%? 40%? That's subjective, but for me, an average of more than 1 per region would be "many". So anything more than 6%. I guess my number would be 8 or more would be too many. |
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Post by rtxc1 on Jun 20, 2019 13:17:06 GMT -6
4A D1 playoff schools: 2-8: Big Spring, San Angelo Lake View 3-7: Kilgore, RGC Gulla 4-5: Brownwood, Carrollton Ranchview, FW Dunbar 4-6: Bay City, Clint, Decatur, Fabens, Gainesville, Houston North Forest, Little Cypress-Mauriceville, Pampa, Taylor 5-5: Alvarado, Brazosport, China Spring, Gonzales, Huffman Hargrave, Kingsville King, Lake Worth, Lumberton, Navasota 16/64 with losing records, or 25%. 25/64, or 39% with average or below average records. I personally see that as a lot of losing records that make the playoffs. But what is that number compared to how it use to be before the expansion? 25% is high but lets say the old percentage was 15% then it is not as much as people think. Sure. I am a proponent of the expanded playoffs, but I do see the other side. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 13:17:37 GMT -6
He said losing record so 5% in D2. I agree in lower classifications that number is probably higher due to the lack of teams. I'm curious what many is. 35%? 40%? That's subjective, but for me, an average of more than 1 per region would be "many". So anything more than 6%. If you did only have 1 division winner 4A and below then enrollment gaps widen. So you gotta pick between having under .500 teams in the playoffs and wider enrollment differences. |
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Post by rtxc1 on Jun 20, 2019 13:17:55 GMT -6
That's subjective, but for me, an average of more than 1 per region would be "many". So anything more than 6%. I guess my number would be 8 or more would be too many. Per bracket? Mine is more than 4 per bracket in 5A and under. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 13:19:15 GMT -6
I guess my number would be 8 or more would be too many. Per bracket? Mine is more than 4 per bracket in 5A and under. Yeah if you have more than 2 per region for 5A/6A then I think thats a lot. |
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Post by rtxc1 on Jul 12, 2019 22:30:34 GMT -6
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Post by urbuddha on Jul 14, 2019 12:29:21 GMT -6
Davenport Wolves
(maroon and white)
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Post by BandidoNB on Jul 15, 2019 20:48:09 GMT -6
The problem with Comal ISD is that it is too big covering five counties. Canyon Lake High is north of the lake near Fredericksburg and Wimberley. Davenport is just out of San Antonio off 35. The UIL doesn't want to split ISD's up so Davenport will probably have to play up north instead of with schools in the south like La Vernia and probably Gonzales, which would be natural rivals. When Comal ISD first formed, nobody probably ever dreamed that it would grow like it has grown. And the way it is growing, several more high schools might be built before total buildout. Davenport HS is a curious case. With Comal ISD so spread out, the district priority (and rightfully so) has been to have high schools based off of geographical areas, rather than population centers. The only issue is that the Garden Ridge area isn’t too populated yet, so most of the students have to be pooled from New Braunfels. And the high school isn’t even exactly in Garden Ridge but in San Antonio. So let’s recap: we have a new HS in northern San Antonio for students in Garden Ridge, but the majority of the students are from New Braunfels. As you can imagine, geographical schools have varying enrollments. That’s why Davenport and Canyon Lake will be 4A, but Canyon and Smithson Valley will be 6A. |
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 16, 2019 5:44:58 GMT -6
The problem with Comal ISD is that it is too big covering five counties. Canyon Lake High is north of the lake near Fredericksburg and Wimberley. Davenport is just out of San Antonio off 35. The UIL doesn't want to split ISD's up so Davenport will probably have to play up north instead of with schools in the south like La Vernia and probably Gonzales, which would be natural rivals. When Comal ISD first formed, nobody probably ever dreamed that it would grow like it has grown. And the way it is growing, several more high schools might be built before total buildout. Davenport HS is a curious case. With Comal ISD so spread out, the district priority (and rightfully so) has been to have high schools based off of geographical areas, rather than population centers. The only issue is that the Garden Ridge area isn’t too populated yet, so most of the students have to be pooled from New Braunfels. And the high school isn’t even exactly in Garden Ridge but in San Antonio. So let’s recap: we have a new HS in northern San Antonio for students in Garden Ridge, but the majority of the students are from New Braunfels. As you can imagine, geographical schools have varying enrollments. That’s why Davenport and Canyon Lake will be 4A, but Canyon and Smithson Valley will be 6A. I looked on the Comal ISD website and saw not only Davenport is being built, but also a fifth high school in Kinder Ranch. Will opening one or both of these possibly bring Smithson Valley (and NB Canyon) down to 5A? And albeit temporary because the growth in that entire area in the Comal ISD from Boerne to New Braunfels and up towards Blanco is not going to slow down. I'm looking at property in that general area right now for a future home and I'm chomping at the bit to get my business established in that area too in order to take advantage of that growth. Won't make a complete move up there for a few years now, but I will be getting my second office up there sooner rather than later and splitting my time between Corpus and the north San Antonio metro area. And while on the subject of ISD's up there. It's weird how the Canyon boundaries are drawn. It's like most of the student in the south part of their attendance zone has to go through NB ISD to get to their high school. I guess with Davenport opening, most of those kids will go to that school? |
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Post by milkshake on Jul 16, 2019 6:03:18 GMT -6
Davenport HS is a curious case. With Comal ISD so spread out, the district priority (and rightfully so) has been to have high schools based off of geographical areas, rather than population centers. The only issue is that the Garden Ridge area isn’t too populated yet, so most of the students have to be pooled from New Braunfels. And the high school isn’t even exactly in Garden Ridge but in San Antonio. So let’s recap: we have a new HS in northern San Antonio for students in Garden Ridge, but the majority of the students are from New Braunfels. As you can imagine, geographical schools have varying enrollments. That’s why Davenport and Canyon Lake will be 4A, but Canyon and Smithson Valley will be 6A. I looked on the Comal ISD website and saw not only Davenport is being built, but also a fifth high school in Kinder Ranch. Will opening one or both of these possibly bring Smithson Valley down to 5A? And albeit temporary because the growth in that entire area in the Comal ISD from Boerne to New Braunfels and up towards Blanco is not going to slow down. I'm looking at property in that general area right now for a future home and I'm chomping at the bit to get my business established in that area too in order to take advantage of that growth. Won't make a complete move up there for a few years now, but I will be getting my second office up there sooner rather than later and splitting my time between Corpus and the north San Antonio metro area. I drove through there a few weeks ago and it looks completely different from when I last went through going up 281. I dont remember a single stop light last time. And the road construction is horrible |
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 16, 2019 7:36:31 GMT -6
I looked on the Comal ISD website and saw not only Davenport is being built, but also a fifth high school in Kinder Ranch. Will opening one or both of these possibly bring Smithson Valley down to 5A? And albeit temporary because the growth in that entire area in the Comal ISD from Boerne to New Braunfels and up towards Blanco is not going to slow down. I'm looking at property in that general area right now for a future home and I'm chomping at the bit to get my business established in that area too in order to take advantage of that growth. Won't make a complete move up there for a few years now, but I will be getting my second office up there sooner rather than later and splitting my time between Corpus and the north San Antonio metro area. I drove through there a few weeks ago and it looks completely different from when I last went through going up 281. I dont remember a single stop light last time. And the road construction is horrible It easier traveling east to west on Tx 46 up there vs going up 281 through SA if your intent is to go to Bulverde north towards the Guadalupe and Blanco. Yep, 281 around Stone Oak to 1604 makes one want to scream and kick something at the same time on top of the traffic lights. Hopefully what other plans they have for that highway are done by the time we make a move along with any plans to address the traffic on TX 46. |
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Post by milkshake on Jul 16, 2019 13:24:29 GMT -6
I drove through there a few weeks ago and it looks completely different from when I last went through going up 281. I dont remember a single stop light last time. And the road construction is horrible It easier traveling east to west on Tx 46 up there vs going up 281 through SA if your intent is to go to Bulverde north towards the Guadalupe and Blanco. Yep, 281 around Stone Oak to 1604 makes one want to scream and kick something at the same time on top of the traffic lights. Hopefully what other plans they have for that highway are done by the time we make a move along with any plans to address the traffic on TX 46. I used to go up to canyon lake a lot when I lived in SA. It was a nice drive back then. Granted that was about 15 years ago |
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 16, 2019 13:56:06 GMT -6
It easier traveling east to west on Tx 46 up there vs going up 281 through SA if your intent is to go to Bulverde north towards the Guadalupe and Blanco. Yep, 281 around Stone Oak to 1604 makes one want to scream and kick something at the same time on top of the traffic lights. Hopefully what other plans they have for that highway are done by the time we make a move along with any plans to address the traffic on TX 46. I used to go up to canyon lake a lot when I lived in SA. It was a nice drive back then. Granted that was about 15 years ago Oh it still it is , albeit there is more development going out towards the lake. The good thing for those who fear the typical suburban like sprawl and what have you is many of the new subdivisions sell one or more acre lots and that helps cut down on the cookie cutter style neighborhoods which in turn retains some of the rural hill country feel. |
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Post by BandidoNB on Jul 16, 2019 21:55:09 GMT -6
Davenport HS is a curious case. With Comal ISD so spread out, the district priority (and rightfully so) has been to have high schools based off of geographical areas, rather than population centers. The only issue is that the Garden Ridge area isn’t too populated yet, so most of the students have to be pooled from New Braunfels. And the high school isn’t even exactly in Garden Ridge but in San Antonio. So let’s recap: we have a new HS in northern San Antonio for students in Garden Ridge, but the majority of the students are from New Braunfels. As you can imagine, geographical schools have varying enrollments. That’s why Davenport and Canyon Lake will be 4A, but Canyon and Smithson Valley will be 6A. I looked on the Comal ISD website and saw not only Davenport is being built, but also a fifth high school in Kinder Ranch. Will opening one or both of these possibly bring Smithson Valley (and NB Canyon) down to 5A? And albeit temporary because the growth in that entire area in the Comal ISD from Boerne to New Braunfels and up towards Blanco is not going to slow down. I'm looking at property in that general area right now for a future home and I'm chomping at the bit to get my business established in that area too in order to take advantage of that growth. Won't make a complete move up there for a few years now, but I will be getting my second office up there sooner rather than later and splitting my time between Corpus and the north San Antonio metro area. And while on the subject of ISD's up there. It's weird how the Canyon boundaries are drawn. It's like most of the student in the south part of their attendance zone has to go through NB ISD to get to their high school. I guess with Davenport opening, most of those kids will go to that school? Canyon and Smithson Valley are supposed to drop to 5A for only one realignment. Since the new high schools will not open in the same realignment cycles, SV and Canyon won’t be 5A at the same time. You’re right about the Canyon HS boundaries (pre-Davenport); Comal ISD almost makes a complete donut around New Braunfels ISD. The NBISD zone is mostly the older, centralized areas of the city, with a few outlying areas also. Davenport HS zone will be based off of the new Danville MS zone (the southwest area of former Canyon HS zone that you noticed), which is fed from Garden Ridge ES and Morningside ES. Morningside ES is in New Braunfels and even Garden Ridge ES draws students from the outer edges of New Braunfels. You’re right about the significant growth. Your business will be fine if all your concerned about is enough growth. I remember reading a while back that Comal ISD is so expansive that if it ever reaches full buildout, it will have enough space for 25 high schools. |
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