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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 4, 2017 22:11:31 GMT -6
Comal ISD is thinking of calling for a bond vote this spring. There are 4 options. Option A: $262M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -2500 capacity HS to relieve Smithson Valley HS -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase Option B: $333M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -2500 capacity HS to relieve Smithson Valley HS -2 new ES -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -3 cent tax increase Option C: $124M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -Convert SVMS into SVHS 9th grade center -SVMS merges with another MS (opens with over 1200 students) -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase Option D: $15M -Shift MS and HS students into Canyon Lake HS zone -CLHS jumps from 4A to 6A overnight -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase www.ksat.com/education/comal-isd-board-to-consider-may-2017-bond-election-SVHS and CHS were both built for 2450 students -CLHS was built for 1375 students -SVHS had 2547 students last snapshot day and projects to have 4304 students in 2024-25. -CHS had 2485 students last snapshot day and projects to have 3982 students in 2024-25. -CLHS had 960 students last snapshot day and projects to have 1123 students in 2024-25. www.comalisd.org/dynimg/_YEAAA_/docid/0x7BD9076CE010C6B4/1/Spring%2B2016%2BComal%2BISD%2BPPT.pdfThoughts: -With 9409 projected students for 2024-25, it would make sense to have 4 HS each built for 2450. -The 4 HS would each have an average of 2352 students at that time. -Suggestion: Build a 2500-capacity HS in the south central portion of the district to relieve SVHS and CHS, either all at once (like Prosper HS) or in phases. This will save money in the long run. Then either expand CLHS when needed, and adjust boundaries accordingly, or build a 5th HS. -It just seems unnecessary to have 5 schools, 3 of which are 6A and 2 of which are 4A, BUT this district does cover 589 square miles. www.comalisd.org/files/_EcAW6_/f051501b1deba0343745a49013852ec4/district_high.pdf
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Post by flowtowntigers on Jan 6, 2017 6:35:30 GMT -6
Comal ISD is thinking of calling for a bond vote this spring. There are 4 options. Option A: $262M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -2500 capacity HS to relieve Smithson Valley HS -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase Option B: $333M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -2500 capacity HS to relieve Smithson Valley HS -2 new ES -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -3 cent tax increase Option C: $124M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -Convert SVMS into SVHS 9th grade center -SVMS merges with another MS (opens with over 1200 students) -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase Option D: $15M -Shift MS and HS students into Canyon Lake HS zone -CLHS jumps from 4A to 6A overnight -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase www.ksat.com/education/comal-isd-board-to-consider-may-2017-bond-election-SVHS and CHS were both built for 2450 students -CLHS was built for 1375 students -SVHS had 2547 students last snapshot day and projects to have 4304 students in 2024-25. -CHS had 2485 students last snapshot day and projects to have 3982 students in 2024-25. -CLHS had 960 students last snapshot day and projects to have 1123 students in 2024-25. www.comalisd.org/dynimg/_YEAAA_/docid/0x7BD9076CE010C6B4/1/Spring%2B2016%2BComal%2BISD%2BPPT.pdfThoughts: -With 9409 projected students for 2024-25, it would make sense to have 4 HS each built for 2450. -The 4 HS would each have an average of 2352 students at that time. -Suggestion: Build a 2500-capacity HS in the south central portion of the district to relieve SVHS and CHS, either all at once (like Prosper HS) or in phases. This will save money in the long run. Then either expand CLHS when needed, and adjust boundaries accordingly, or build a 5th HS. -It just seems unnecessary to have 5 schools, 3 of which are 6A and 2 of which are 4A, BUT this district does cover 589 square miles. www.comalisd.org/files/_EcAW6_/f051501b1deba0343745a49013852ec4/district_high.pdfI guess the old saying do it once do it right is not applied in any growth planning any more. Canyon Lake HS would have been built for 2500 kids from day one but they went cheap and I'm sure the SV heavy pockets did not want their football team to suffer.
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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 6, 2017 11:44:16 GMT -6
Comal ISD is thinking of calling for a bond vote this spring. There are 4 options. Option A: $262M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -2500 capacity HS to relieve Smithson Valley HS -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase Option B: $333M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -2500 capacity HS to relieve Smithson Valley HS -2 new ES -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -3 cent tax increase Option C: $124M -900 capacity HS to relieve Canyon HS -Convert SVMS into SVHS 9th grade center -SVMS merges with another MS (opens with over 1200 students) -Design for ES -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase Option D: $15M -Shift MS and HS students into Canyon Lake HS zone -CLHS jumps from 4A to 6A overnight -Bus/Land/Maintenance funds -No tax increase www.ksat.com/education/comal-isd-board-to-consider-may-2017-bond-election-SVHS and CHS were both built for 2450 students -CLHS was built for 1375 students -SVHS had 2547 students last snapshot day and projects to have 4304 students in 2024-25. -CHS had 2485 students last snapshot day and projects to have 3982 students in 2024-25. -CLHS had 960 students last snapshot day and projects to have 1123 students in 2024-25. www.comalisd.org/dynimg/_YEAAA_/docid/0x7BD9076CE010C6B4/1/Spring%2B2016%2BComal%2BISD%2BPPT.pdfThoughts: -With 9409 projected students for 2024-25, it would make sense to have 4 HS each built for 2450. -The 4 HS would each have an average of 2352 students at that time. -Suggestion: Build a 2500-capacity HS in the south central portion of the district to relieve SVHS and CHS, either all at once (like Prosper HS) or in phases. This will save money in the long run. Then either expand CLHS when needed, and adjust boundaries accordingly, or build a 5th HS. -It just seems unnecessary to have 5 schools, 3 of which are 6A and 2 of which are 4A, BUT this district does cover 589 square miles. www.comalisd.org/files/_EcAW6_/f051501b1deba0343745a49013852ec4/district_high.pdfI guess the old saying do it once do it right is not applied in any growth planning any more. Canyon Lake HS would have been built for 2500 kids from day one but they went cheap and I'm sure the SV heavy pockets did not want their football team to suffer. Glad I'm not alone in thinking this. It seems they make it more difficult on themselves than necessary. The only way I can defend them is that Canyon Lake's feeder is pretty huge, is rural, and isn't growing fast. Expanding the feeder means drive times to Canyon Lake HS would be about twice as much as staying at Canyon or Smithson Valley.
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Post by Hunt'emWolves27 on Jan 6, 2017 21:54:17 GMT -6
I guess the old saying do it once do it right is not applied in any growth planning any more. Canyon Lake HS would have been built for 2500 kids from day one but they went cheap and I'm sure the SV heavy pockets did not want their football team to suffer. Glad I'm not alone in thinking this. It seems they make it more difficult on themselves than necessary. The only way I can defend them is that Canyon Lake's feeder is pretty huge, is rural, and isn't growing fast. Expanding the feeder means drive times to Canyon Lake HS would be about twice as much as staying at Canyon or Smithson Valley. I live in Canyon Lake and I think the High School is small for what it could have I think SV people definitely didn't want the school to hurt the prospects of their FB team. I think they need to realign the district. I live about 35 minutes from CLHS and 10 minutes from SVHS and my neighbors go to CLHS. I have a friend that lives 40 minutes from SVHS and 20 minutes to CLHS and their kid goes to SVHS. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.
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Post by BandidoNB on Jan 7, 2017 1:16:18 GMT -6
If I recall correctly, the Canyon Lake area was promised an area high school so that a bond several years ago could pass. Even back then, Comal ISD knew the growth wasn't in that direction, but students in the lake area had to drive all the way to Canyon or SV campuses to go to school. So the Canyon Lake area high school made sense from a distance perspective. We may have a similar issue again. Garden Ridge area students are zoned for Canyon and it doesn't make sense for that expansive area to not have its own high school. Even if you were to rezone this area away from Canyon HS, Canyon by then would either still be 6A or have no trouble reaching 6A again quickly. Since last realignment count, Canyon now has more than 2600+ students. As far as Canyon Lake HS going from 4A to 6A overnight, I don't know what Comal ISD is thinking. If they are going to move students from one overcrowded school to another, then they might as well let the students keep on attending their area school. Instead of the 18+ portable classrooms at Canyon Lake HS, they might as well split them between Canyon and SV. The only explanation I can come up with is that maybe they want Canyon Lake to be on equal footing with Canyon and SV. I must admit, I often forget Canyon Lake HS even exists since it's not in 5A or 6A.
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Post by flowtowntigers on Jan 7, 2017 9:38:49 GMT -6
If I recall correctly, the Canyon Lake area was promised an area high school so that a bond several years ago could pass. Even back then, Comal ISD knew the growth wasn't in that direction, but students in the lake area had to drive all the way to Canyon or SV campuses to go to school. So the Canyon Lake area high school made sense from a distance perspective. We may have a similar issue again. Garden Ridge area students are zoned for Canyon and it doesn't make sense for that expansive area to not have its own high school. Even if you were to rezone this area away from Canyon HS, Canyon by then would either still be 6A or have no trouble reaching 6A again quickly. Since last realignment count, Canyon now has more than 2600+ students. As far as Canyon Lake HS going from 4A to 6A overnight, I don't know what Comal ISD is thinking. If they are going to move students from one overcrowded school to another, then they might as well let the students keep on attending their area school. Instead of the 18+ portable classrooms at Canyon Lake HS, they might as well split them between Canyon and SV. The only explanation I can come up with is that maybe they want Canyon Lake to be on equal footing with Canyon and SV. I must admit, I often forget Canyon Lake HS even exists since it's not in 5A or 6A. It was cursed from the start when they had two schools with similar names in the same school district, Canyon HS and Canyon Lake HS. CLHS should have been Fischer HS.
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Post by BandidoNB on Jan 7, 2017 16:13:48 GMT -6
If I recall correctly, the Canyon Lake area was promised an area high school so that a bond several years ago could pass. Even back then, Comal ISD knew the growth wasn't in that direction, but students in the lake area had to drive all the way to Canyon or SV campuses to go to school. So the Canyon Lake area high school made sense from a distance perspective. We may have a similar issue again. Garden Ridge area students are zoned for Canyon and it doesn't make sense for that expansive area to not have its own high school. Even if you were to rezone this area away from Canyon HS, Canyon by then would either still be 6A or have no trouble reaching 6A again quickly. Since last realignment count, Canyon now has more than 2600+ students. As far as Canyon Lake HS going from 4A to 6A overnight, I don't know what Comal ISD is thinking. If they are going to move students from one overcrowded school to another, then they might as well let the students keep on attending their area school. Instead of the 18+ portable classrooms at Canyon Lake HS, they might as well split them between Canyon and SV. The only explanation I can come up with is that maybe they want Canyon Lake to be on equal footing with Canyon and SV. I must admit, I often forget Canyon Lake HS even exists since it's not in 5A or 6A. It was cursed from the start when they had two schools with similar names in the same school district, Canyon HS and Canyon Lake HS. CLHS should have been Fischer HS. I agree that the names are too similar. I remember that the other two names that were considered were North Lake HS or Sorrel Creek HS. Well, it's too late now. I've started wondering if they will start doing what has been done in the Houston area schools. Over there, like Cypress ISD or Clear Creek ISD, maybe they will start naming their schools Canyon Ridge, Canyon Creek, Canyon Gorge etc
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Post by hippofan83 on Jan 14, 2017 15:32:34 GMT -6
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Post by leopard4life on Jan 14, 2017 17:35:52 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see how much Texas has grown since the last census. We have added a lot of High Schools in the last 6-7 years and have time to add more before the next census...
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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 15, 2017 15:09:40 GMT -6
Might not be too terribly far away, but still might take 10 or so years.
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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 15, 2017 15:10:52 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see how much Texas has grown since the last census. We have added a lot of High Schools in the last 6-7 years and have time to add more before the next census... It's almost sickening how fast we are growing. My main concerns are becoming too much like California and the likely future water crisis.
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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 15, 2017 15:29:54 GMT -6
Frisco ISD tweaked its boundaries to make it until the 4 new schools open in 2018. The HS boundaries will only affect 9th graders, with the only change being south of main being rezoned from Independence to Liberty. The big thing shown is that FISD finally bought land off of Main and Coit for HS #12, called the "Brinkmann" site. I believe Frisco will build out at 12 schools. www.friscoisd.org/docs/default-source/attendance-zones/hs_independence-liberty-9th-grade.pdf
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Post by wfcoyote on Jan 15, 2017 17:00:26 GMT -6
They have to keep building new schools because the brain dead people running the schools shut them down 3 months each year. Can you imagine Walmart closing billions of dollars worth of buildings for three months each year. Every school should be year around like they have at Tuloso Midway.
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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 15, 2017 17:22:49 GMT -6
They have to keep building new schools because the brain dead people running the schools shut them down 3 months each year. Can you imagine Walmart closing billions of dollars worth of buildings for three months each year. Every school should be year around like they have at Tuloso Midway. Its the same number of school days either way.
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Post by wfcoyote on Jan 15, 2017 19:52:05 GMT -6
You have Trillions of dollars in School bldgs setting vacant for three months and not producing education and wanting more money to feed a system that spends more per student than any country in the world per student. Building more schools is expensive.
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