fbhooyah
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Post by fbhooyah on Jul 15, 2013 21:17:01 GMT -6
I think tm cant handle beeville and I think one if not both of the Victoria schools get in with gp the other bubble team. Then I think everyone in district will go at least 2 rounds if not 3 before systematically losing to Cedar Parks district. I believe you are right on. Cedar park and that district are monsters and it would be a huge upset if a 30-4A team won. Flour Bluff got half way there last year with the win over Leander, and we were by far the underdog in that one. Any of 30-4A and 31-4A can do it, just got to practice and play our hearts out. 30 and 31 (30 being more competitive of course) are the two best 4A districts south of 26-4A. Very excited for our local elite's to go far this year, God willing.
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Post by gpking on Jul 16, 2013 8:50:11 GMT -6
PLC is the team that could handle Cedar Park or any Leander team IMO. They will be very good this year. If Williams is 100%.
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Post by Coyote Pack Attack on Jul 16, 2013 9:02:47 GMT -6
PLC is the team that could handle Cedar Park or any Leander team IMO. They will be very good this year. If Williams is 100%. Compete.. maybe.. Beat.. No way. CP last year was a hell of a football team, even better in person. I remember talking to a few CP fans at the game. I know some fans "talk up" their teams future, but these guys said the pipeline is full of underclassmen that could of started on any team in their district. 3 hrs later I believed them...
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Post by antlers on Jul 16, 2013 10:40:23 GMT -6
CP is a tough team to play. They are big and physical and tackle well, you cant make mistakes against them or you will pay. They are very hard to run against, Tivy had some sucess against them but you have to spread them out and be able to throw and run. If you are one dimensional they will shut you down.
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Post by Tom on Jul 16, 2013 10:53:49 GMT -6
CP is a tough team to play. They are big and physical and tackle well, you cant make mistakes against them or you will pay. They are very hard to run against, Tivy had some sucess against them but you have to spread them out and be able to throw and run. If you are one dimensional they will shut you down. Yep, I watched them shut down a really good Lancaster team.
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Post by Tom on Jul 16, 2013 10:56:59 GMT -6
What about R 3, R 1, and deep south Texas I'm still familiarizing myself with Region 3 (after all I live in R3 these days)... already posted my thoughts on 5-4A, as for the rest of R1, from what I know: 1-4A: Chapin, Andress, Bowie, Burges 2-4A: Del Valle, Canutillo, Hanks, Eastlake 3-4A: Amarillo, Canyon, Randall, Palo Duro 4-4A: frenship, Monterey, Hereford, Plainview 5-4A: Guyer, Rider, Nelson, Azle 6-4A: Birdville, Boswell, Saginaw, Dunbar 7-4A: Aledo, Granbury, Southwest, Arlington Heights 8-4A: Waco, Everman, Crowley, Cleburne
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Post by cujo2002 on Jul 17, 2013 7:50:08 GMT -6
13 4A Sherman Wyile East Wyile ?
15 4A Ennis Waxahchie Red Oak Lancaster
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Post by gpking on Jul 17, 2013 7:53:56 GMT -6
PLC is the team that could handle Cedar Park or any Leander team IMO. They will be very good this year. If Williams is 100%. Compete.. maybe.. Beat.. No way. CP last year was a hell of a football team, even better in person. I remember talking to a few CP fans at the game. I know some fans "talk up" their teams future, but these guys said the pipeline is full of underclassmen that could of started on any team in their district. 3 hrs later I believed them... Have you seen PLC? Calhoun is that caliber of program, but running.
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Post by tamss13 on Jul 20, 2013 15:31:25 GMT -6
13 4A Sherman Wyile East Wyile ? 15 4A Ennis Waxahchie Red Oak Lancaster You left Lovejoy out.....I think they won the district last year and they return soph qb sells...........
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Post by avert on Jul 20, 2013 17:55:35 GMT -6
Compete.. maybe.. Beat.. No way. CP last year was a hell of a football team, even better in person. I remember talking to a few CP fans at the game. I know some fans "talk up" their teams future, but these guys said the pipeline is full of underclassmen that could of started on any team in their district. 3 hrs later I believed them... Have you seen PLC? Calhoun is that caliber of program, but running. Thats Funny. It's nice to think the teams in south Texas are the same caliber as the north central/ eastern part of the state, but in honesty they are not. They are competive against each other and there are some that are a notch above for south Texas competition like Plc and calallen are right now, and some that are way worse, but they would be hard pressed to be a playoff team in the dfw area/ east Texas . Those Teams produce several d1 athletes every year. Mansfield legacy put out 9 d1 players one year and missed the playoffs! and they play that caliber week in and week out. If you have not been to see those teams compete then you just do not realize the difference. Some of the 5a dfw area would challenge some small colleges. Cedar parks district is an anomaly in region 4....now region I / the west Texas / panhandle area south texas can compete with.
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Post by cochino on Jul 20, 2013 21:03:34 GMT -6
Compete.. maybe.. Beat.. No way. CP last year was a hell of a football team, even better in person. I remember talking to a few CP fans at the game. I know some fans "talk up" their teams future, but these guys said the pipeline is full of underclassmen that could of started on any team in their district. 3 hrs later I believed them... Have you seen PLC? Calhoun is that caliber of program, but running. Are you kidding me? I have to deal with the PLC fan base's delusions as to how good their program is, now GP fans also? You are insane to say that PLC is the caliber of program as Cedar Park. Based on what? Why can't fans be realistic. This is why I go off on the PLC fans all the time. It's possible to brag about your team without being ridiculous and making such fantastical claims. My comments aren't even trash talk. They only seem like trash talk because the comments I respond to are so ludicrous.
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Post by cochino on Jul 20, 2013 21:12:40 GMT -6
Have you seen PLC? Calhoun is that caliber of program, but running. Thats Funny. It's nice to think the teams in south Texas are the same caliber as the north central/ eastern part of the state, but in honesty they are not. They are competive against each other and there are some that are a notch above for south Texas competition like Plc and calallen are right now, and some that are way worse, but they would be hard pressed to be a playoff team in the dfw area/ east Texas . Those Teams produce several d1 athletes every year. Mansfield legacy put out 9 d1 players one year and missed the playoffs! and they play that caliber week in and week out. If you have not been to see those teams compete then you just do not realize the difference. Some of the 5a dfw area would challenge some small colleges. Cedar parks district is an anomaly in region 4....now region I / the west Texas / panhandle area south texas can compete with. The amount of D1 players on a team doesn't always tell a clear story. Calallen never has D1 talent and they always seem to get to the semi-finals, even made state a few years ago. The 2008 Alice team put up more points on Austin Lake Travis than any of Travis's 16 opponents that season despite the fact that Lake Travis plays in a district loaded with D1 talent and Alice had no D1 talent. What hurts those teams loaded with D1 talent is most of them play selfishly. You have a bunch of kids on the team playing to impress D1 scouts rather than thinking "team" first. And that is what makes it so teams from down here can compete despite not being loaded with D1 talent.
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Post by cujo2002 on Jul 20, 2013 21:53:45 GMT -6
13 4A Sherman Wyile East Wyile ? 15 4A Ennis Waxahchie Red Oak Lancaster You left Lovejoy out.....I think they won the district last year and they return soph qb sells........... I didn't leave them out. I didn't know all the teams in that district.
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Post by avert on Jul 20, 2013 22:12:38 GMT -6
Thats Funny. It's nice to think the teams in south Texas are the same caliber as the north central/ eastern part of the state, but in honesty they are not. They are competive against each other and there are some that are a notch above for south Texas competition like Plc and calallen are right now, and some that are way worse, but they would be hard pressed to be a playoff team in the dfw area/ east Texas . Those Teams produce several d1 athletes every year. Mansfield legacy put out 9 d1 players one year and missed the playoffs! and they play that caliber week in and week out. If you have not been to see those teams compete then you just do not realize the difference. Some of the 5a dfw area would challenge some small colleges. Cedar parks district is an anomaly in region 4....now region I / the west Texas / panhandle area south texas can compete with. The amount of D1 players on a team doesn't always tell a clear story. Calallen never has D1 talent and they always seem to get to the semi-finals, even made state a few years ago. The 2008 Alice team put up more points on Austin Lake Travis than any of Travis's 16 opponents that season despite the fact that Lake Travis plays in a district loaded with D1 talent and Alice had no D1 talent. What hurts those teams loaded with D1 talent is most of them play selfishly. You have a bunch of kids on the team playing to impress D1 scouts rather than thinking "team" first. And that is what makes it so teams from down here can compete despite not being loaded with D1 talent. I agree d1 players can edefinately be selfish but I guess you skipped over the part about so tex being able to compete w/ so Texas? That is why they lose in the semis when they play region 3. . I like region 4 football more than the rest but I'm not delusional to think it is top tier in the state.
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Post by Tom on Jul 20, 2013 22:26:58 GMT -6
Thats Funny. It's nice to think the teams in south Texas are the same caliber as the north central/ eastern part of the state, but in honesty they are not. They are competive against each other and there are some that are a notch above for south Texas competition like Plc and calallen are right now, and some that are way worse, but they would be hard pressed to be a playoff team in the dfw area/ east Texas . Those Teams produce several d1 athletes every year. Mansfield legacy put out 9 d1 players one year and missed the playoffs! and they play that caliber week in and week out. If you have not been to see those teams compete then you just do not realize the difference. Some of the 5a dfw area would challenge some small colleges. Cedar parks district is an anomaly in region 4....now region I / the west Texas / panhandle area south texas can compete with. The amount of D1 players on a team doesn't always tell a clear story. Calallen never has D1 talent and they always seem to get to the semi-finals, even made state a few years ago. The 2008 Alice team put up more points on Austin Lake Travis than any of Travis's 16 opponents that season despite the fact that Lake Travis plays in a district loaded with D1 talent and Alice had no D1 talent. What hurts those teams loaded with D1 talent is most of them play selfishly. You have a bunch of kids on the team playing to impress D1 scouts rather than thinking "team" first. And that is what makes it so teams from down here can compete despite not being loaded with D1 talent. Well, not to mention that D1 talent covers everything from "blue chip prospect who has a reasonably good chance of playing in the NFL" to "guy that UTSA or UNT takes a flyer on." (Aside from which... a quick search of Rivals reveals that Cedar Park had zero FBS signees last year.) It's far more complicated than "selfish" play. Getting an FBS scholarship usually has more to do with potential than with actually being a good football player at that moment in time; if you're a 6'4" wide receiver who runs a 4.4 40, you're probably getting FBS offers out the ass regardless of whether or not you're actually good at football. The FBS coaches figure they can take a guy like that and coach him into being a good player. Some of the programs that are loaded with D1 talent year after year tend to employ a "stars and scrubs" model. Their depth sucks for a variety of reasons, and many of them don't do a very good job at developing talent. The secret to the success of programs like Lake Travis, Katy, Southlake Carroll, etc., isn't that they have a ton of D1 talent but that they get the most of out the kids in the program who don't have a snowball's chance in hell of going D1. Lancaster sort of exemplified the opposite end of the coin last year. I think they had 4 or 5 D1 players on the roster, but they had guys playing both ways (no excuse for a large 4A school to be doing that) and their line play wasn't stellar. Obviously some teams are just going to be overmatched because of the skill talent, but the lack of depth means that when they ran into a team that could hang with them they ultimately got worn down.
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