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Post by tigercrazy on Jul 2, 2013 14:40:35 GMT -6
Mercedes Tigers State Bound Are The Alice & Cal QB who play 7on7 the starters?
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Post by cochino on Jul 2, 2013 14:44:35 GMT -6
Not sure. Have no idea who next seasons starter is gonna be. Why do you ask?
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Post by tigercrazy on Jul 2, 2013 14:59:58 GMT -6
Not sure. Have no idea who next seasons starter is gonna be. Why do you ask? Both QBS are short.
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Post by tigercrazy on Jul 2, 2013 15:13:06 GMT -6
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Post by cochino on Jul 2, 2013 15:32:50 GMT -6
Alice always has short qbs. Last season was the exception with Oscar Resendez. He's playing college ball now. Howard Payne I think.
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Post by tigercrazy on Jul 2, 2013 15:48:07 GMT -6
Has Alice ever made state in 7on7?
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Post by cujo2002 on Jul 2, 2013 16:00:26 GMT -6
Yes I am a big homer. To be honest I know nothing about south texas football. Only DFW and East Texas. Everyone is a homer to some degree. The forum is Texas 4A Sports not South Texas even tho it has more south and CB posters so far but we are growing and happy to have folks join in for the whole state. Well the happy east texas. Bring in everything Blue and White CUJO FOR LIFE lol.
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Post by mustangfootball on Jul 2, 2013 16:09:06 GMT -6
Alice's 7 on 7 has only lost 1 game all summer. A double overtime 41-39 loss to Mercedes that was to qualify for the state tournament. They had victories over Carroll and Port Lavaca Calhoun that same day. It's pretty good that Alice is having so much success on 7 on 7 since Alice is a run oriented team that runs the slot-t. what league did Alice play? I don't remember if Ingleside played them. Ingleside played in the Cabaniss league. I don't remember seeing Alice in that league, y'all must have played in the Sinton league.
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Post by cochino on Jul 2, 2013 17:13:17 GMT -6
Well Alice has lost 3 total now. I'm just reading that they lost twice in a tournament this past weekend. Beat Mission but lost to United and Edcouch-Elsa. Alice doesn't play in a Sinton league. Why would you assume they played in a Sinton league? I wanna say Alice is in it's own league. Everyone they play is from around the Hub City area. Then of course there is the tournaments they play in. Mostly Valley tournaments but then they played in that tournament in Corpus or Calallen last week for the state qualifier. I was excited for the success they had been having but I don't put too much into 7 on 7 when it comes to Alice because during regular season play we run out of the slot-t and rarely even have a reciever on the field. If we pass it's a running back out of the backfield or a tight end that mostly blocks.
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Post by mustangfootball on Jul 3, 2013 5:54:10 GMT -6
Well Alice has lost 3 total now. I'm just reading that they lost twice in a tournament this past weekend. Beat Mission but lost to United and Edcouch-Elsa. Alice doesn't play in a Sinton league. Why would you assume they played in a Sinton league? I wanna say Alice is in it's own league. Everyone they play is from around the Hub City area. Then of course there is the tournaments they play in. Mostly Valley tournaments but then they played in that tournament in Corpus or Calallen last week for the state qualifier. I was excited for the success they had been having but I don't put too much into 7 on 7 when it comes to Alice because during regular season play we run out of the slot-t and rarely even have a reciever on the field. If we pass it's a running back out of the backfield or a tight end that mostly blocks. I was just asking, I assume they played in the Sinton league cause they didn't play in the Corpus league....I agree with you teams that run the ball don't put a lot of stock in 7on7 because the style of offense they run, but every team plays defense. I think teams need to quit viewing 7on7 as an offensive game and use it to their advantage on defense, not sure it means a lot to teams in the 2 4a districts we have down here in the coastal bend be cause primarily both district are loaded with run based offensive with the exception of probably Ray and Moody. in 30-3a it helps because most of those teams run out of the spread and they are use to seeing the ball flying around the field. I think 7on7 is a good tool that helps prepare kid for the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 7:54:06 GMT -6
Well Alice has lost 3 total now. I'm just reading that they lost twice in a tournament this past weekend. Beat Mission but lost to United and Edcouch-Elsa. Alice doesn't play in a Sinton league. Why would you assume they played in a Sinton league? I wanna say Alice is in it's own league. Everyone they play is from around the Hub City area. Then of course there is the tournaments they play in. Mostly Valley tournaments but then they played in that tournament in Corpus or Calallen last week for the state qualifier. I was excited for the success they had been having but I don't put too much into 7 on 7 when it comes to Alice because during regular season play we run out of the slot-t and rarely even have a reciever on the field. If we pass it's a running back out of the backfield or a tight end that mostly blocks. I was just asking, I assume they played in the Sinton league cause they didn't play in the Corpus league....I agree with you teams that run the ball don't put a lot of stock in 7on7 because the style of offense they run, but every team plays defense. I think teams need to quit viewing 7on7 as an offensive game and use it to their advantage on defense, not sure it means a lot to teams in the 2 4a districts we have down here in the coastal bend be cause primarily both district are loaded with run based offensive with the exception of probably Ray and Moody. in 30-3a it helps because most of those teams run out of the spread and they are use to seeing the ball flying around the field. I think 7on7 is a good tool that helps prepare kid for the season. I'm not so sure you can use your 7-7 to focus on Defense. The keep component of your defense is your pass rush and running game containment which starts on your defensive line. While I really don't know much about the ins and outs of the 7-7 thing, I imagine your offense can use some strategy while your defense is kind of left just to cover what the offense puts out there. In 11 on 11, you can do a heck of a lot more game planning of Defense where as it looks like with 7-7, it's based more on individual match ups for which by the way some areas of the state (won't mention which one) needs to realize that those match ups might not be the same when it comes to the 11 on 11 season in a couple of months.
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Post by mustangfootball on Jul 3, 2013 9:19:47 GMT -6
I was just asking, I assume they played in the Sinton league cause they didn't play in the Corpus league....I agree with you teams that run the ball don't put a lot of stock in 7on7 because the style of offense they run, but every team plays defense. I think teams need to quit viewing 7on7 as an offensive game and use it to their advantage on defense, not sure it means a lot to teams in the 2 4a districts we have down here in the coastal bend be cause primarily both district are loaded with run based offensive with the exception of probably Ray and Moody. in 30-3a it helps because most of those teams run out of the spread and they are use to seeing the ball flying around the field. I think 7on7 is a good tool that helps prepare kid for the season. I'm not so sure you can use your 7-7 to focus on Defense. The keep component of your defense is your pass rush and running game containment which starts on your defensive line. While I really don't know much about the ins and outs of the 7-7 thing, I imagine your offense can use some strategy while your defense is kind of left just to cover what the offense puts out there. In 11 on 11, you can do a heck of a lot more game planning of Defense where as it looks like with 7-7, it's based more on individual match ups for which by the way some areas of the state (won't mention which one) needs to realize that those match ups might not be the same when it comes to the 11 on 11 season in a couple of months. I'm not going to deny it doesn't always translate to the fall, but it cant hurt when you have LB, CB and Safeties out there reading QBs, Receivers and working on footwork they learned during the season. plus it forces them to stay in shape and possibly faster. I think its a good thing, even if you don't use it as a competition or join a SQT but just to put work in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 10:08:25 GMT -6
I'm not so sure you can use your 7-7 to focus on Defense. The keep component of your defense is your pass rush and running game containment which starts on your defensive line. While I really don't know much about the ins and outs of the 7-7 thing, I imagine your offense can use some strategy while your defense is kind of left just to cover what the offense puts out there. In 11 on 11, you can do a heck of a lot more game planning of Defense where as it looks like with 7-7, it's based more on individual match ups for which by the way some areas of the state (won't mention which one) needs to realize that those match ups might not be the same when it comes to the 11 on 11 season in a couple of months. I'm not going to deny it doesn't always translate to the fall, but it cant hurt when you have LB, CB and Safeties out there reading QBs, Receivers and working on footwork they learned during the season. plus it forces them to stay in shape and possibly faster. I think its a good thing, even if you don't use it as a competition or join a SQT but just to put work in. I agree with the reads part and the staying in shape part although I can imagine some high school coaches are anxious to hear after these games if their kids are 100% healthy and maybe with my Linebackers, I'd want them hitting the weights more and doing agility training on their own or in conjunction with summer workouts at the field house vs 7 on 7. But then again that is just me and from what I observed back in the day before 7 on 7 with what coaches wanted from their LB's during the off season. At the same time the reads become a different animal when a pass rush is thrown into the component and your linebackers play closer to a line of scrimmage vs condensed version of a dime package or something sort of like it that is presented as a defense in 7 on 7.
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Post by SintonFan_InAustin on Jul 3, 2013 11:39:42 GMT -6
Well Alice has lost 3 total now. I'm just reading that they lost twice in a tournament this past weekend. Beat Mission but lost to United and Edcouch-Elsa. Alice doesn't play in a Sinton league. Why would you assume they played in a Sinton league? I wanna say Alice is in it's own league. Everyone they play is from around the Hub City area. Then of course there is the tournaments they play in. Mostly Valley tournaments but then they played in that tournament in Corpus or Calallen last week for the state qualifier. I was excited for the success they had been having but I don't put too much into 7 on 7 when it comes to Alice because during regular season play we run out of the slot-t and rarely even have a reciever on the field. If we pass it's a running back out of the backfield or a tight end that mostly blocks. I was just asking, I assume they played in the Sinton league cause they didn't play in the Corpus league....I agree with you teams that run the ball don't put a lot of stock in 7on7 because the style of offense they run, but every team plays defense. I think teams need to quit viewing 7on7 as an offensive game and use it to their advantage on defense, not sure it means a lot to teams in the 2 4a districts we have down here in the coastal bend be cause primarily both district are loaded with run based offensive with the exception of probably Ray and Moody. in 30-3a it helps because most of those teams run out of the spread and they are use to seeing the ball flying around the field. I think 7on7 is a good tool that helps prepare kid for the season. Last season Sinton didn't have regular starters playing in it, not even qb and don't think they did also this season. summer is usually baseball season for some in Sinton before turning their attention to football. Refugio poster might know who was the qb for Sinton in Sinton league, I don't think Handson plays in it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 12:21:08 GMT -6
I was just asking, I assume they played in the Sinton league cause they didn't play in the Corpus league....I agree with you teams that run the ball don't put a lot of stock in 7on7 because the style of offense they run, but every team plays defense. I think teams need to quit viewing 7on7 as an offensive game and use it to their advantage on defense, not sure it means a lot to teams in the 2 4a districts we have down here in the coastal bend be cause primarily both district are loaded with run based offensive with the exception of probably Ray and Moody. in 30-3a it helps because most of those teams run out of the spread and they are use to seeing the ball flying around the field. I think 7on7 is a good tool that helps prepare kid for the season. Last season Sinton didn't have regular starters playing in it, not even qb and don't think they did also this season. summer is usually baseball season for some in Sinton before turning their attention to football. Refugio poster might know who was the qb for Sinton in Sinton league, I don't think Handson plays in it. I believe that is the same thing with Calallen and I understand some of the kids that usually play didn't go last week because of a baseball commitment.
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