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Post by C5_96 on Jul 11, 2012 7:26:00 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 7:58:17 GMT -6
My intial reaction is overkill like much government policy or directives coming out from the "decesion makers" around the country. And I say this realizing the days when a bunch of us were in high school and never saw a kid collapse or an ambulance visit a practice field for a heat related ailment are loooonng gone and we will never get back to that point. Or even recall a news story about it happening in another part of the state or country too.
How can a walk through pracitce help in the conditioning of players? Why not just set a standard practice time of say 7:00 am to 9:30 AM for session one and 6PM to 8:30 for session two? It works for colleges and even some have been busted by the NCAA for practicing out of a specific time slot as I believe they actually have to submit their plan to the NCAA for compliance reasons (might be wrong about that).
I think the UIL made a quick decesion without looking at more options such as starting coach supervised conditioning workouts much earlier in the summer and maybe even making them madatory earlier so the gap between May and August is less. And why not let a school have the option of having Spring Ball and early two a days (again like the colleges) which would allow coaches to focus more on conditioning without equipement a little longer instead of rushing to get the pads on to see what they have to build.
Of course rules would have to be written to insure kids with legit excuse in the mid to late July are given a pass such as family vacations, and other commitments. At the same time, most kids are around home by that time of the summer and they should be working their tails off instead of downing doughnuts, chips and playing X-Box.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 11, 2012 8:00:45 GMT -6
Guys have had health issues and even some deaths. Facts that need to be dealt with. Maybe this is not perfect but what is. I don't think kids of today are as prepared to deal with the heat as we were back in the day. Simply a matter of air conditioning for one thing. Schools and almost all homes were not air conditioned back when two a days came into being.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 8:10:34 GMT -6
Guys have had health issues and even some deaths. Facts that need to be dealt with. Maybe this is not perfect but what is. I don't think kids of today are as prepared to deal with the heat as we were back in the day. Simply a matter of air conditioning for one thing. Schools and almost all homes were not air conditioned back when two a days came into being. That's a valid point about A/C altough I went to school in the 80's when a majority of home had A/C albeit some of my friends didn't where I grew up as well as some of our school buildings. In fact, I didn't "enjoy" a full school day in an A/C enviroment until I was in the 7th grade. At the same time, we had some of the same electroic media available to keep us entertained as kids have know such VHS tapes and computer games alebit it is much easier to find something new to keep you entertained things to digitial downloading vs the day when we wanted a new game or video we had to either go to whatever strore back then that sold them and shell out $50 or go down to video store and hope they had their one copy of the movie you wanted to watch back in stock. I guess the one variable that we had back is once we got bored, we were able to find something to entertain ourselves with back then and it usually involved being outdoors no matter how hot or cold it was outside or if it was dry or raining cats and dogs. I see the difference with my own kids vs my childhood, but I do see more kids outside now thanks to the longboard skateboard craze. That's another issue if you want to talk injuries.
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Post by CC_Varmints on Jul 11, 2012 9:21:47 GMT -6
It has all to do with the environment that kids are raised up in today. I went all through elementary to high school with boiler steam radiators for heat and open windows with wind tunnel fans for cooling (if you could call it that). I did not have A/C until I went to college. I grew up outdoors. I ate breakfast at home and I was home before dark for supper. Spring, Summer, Fall & Winter I was outdoors in the hot and cold, in the wet rain and snow. Then I experienced no A/C in Army barracks and tents. I saw firsthand how the younger Soldiers took longer to adjust to the climate changes and changes in environment. The bottom line goal is to educate, train and execute the football program and not to severly injure or cause death to any athlete. Climatizing and adapting to increased physical strain on the body is key for an athlete to overcome. Each athlete does this in a different way. Some take longer than others to climatize and adapt to the high-level of activity. That is parents and coaches most important responsibility in ensuring the safety of the athletes. No death or permanent injury is acceptable or justifiable. The key to all of this starts in the home of the athlete. The parents or guardians must prepare the athletes for the conditions they will encounter in sports and in life. I have never been a heat casualty or had a cold injury in sports or in the Army. That was not by accident. I have survived 130+ temps with no A/C as well as sub-zero temps with no heat. The best approach is the crawl, walk, run approach. Just like teaching a child and just like teaching a Soldier. A person cannot just go from an indoor sedentary lifestyle one day to try and win a Marathon race the next day without the gradually increasing training program.
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Post by valleyfan on Jul 11, 2012 9:24:51 GMT -6
We as parents have alot to do with the kids of today staying indoors more....I remember being a kid taking off around 10:00 am during the summer and other then to eat my parents never saw me because I was out playing something....now...there is no way I would let my kids go as far as I would go on my bike to entertain myself with buddies....
we keep alot closer eye on our kids then they kept on us....and we tell them NO alot more then our parents told us as it applies to being out in the streets playing....
The key is to get more organized playtime in our communities so that we know where are kids are....
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Post by SCBuffaloes16 on Jul 11, 2012 13:36:13 GMT -6
This really is interesting, as summer workouts aren't that long away. Being a freshman, it really is ironic to me that they eliminate two-a-days the year I start high school.
I agree it is the fact about how the kids are raised into today. As mentioned, A/C being everywhere is a reason. However, it's technology that is the culprit nowadays. Once these kids play stuff like X-Boxes and such, you can't get them off of it. This doesn't help in adjusting kids to the heat.
The point is is that most kids today don't want to be outside cause it's "too hot" so they spend their summers on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare and eating. This is why our generation is seeing more heat issues at two-a-days.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 13:50:57 GMT -6
This really is interesting, as summer workouts aren't that long away. Being a freshman, it really is ironic to me that they eliminate two-a-days the year I start high school. I agree it is the fact about how the kids are raised into today. As mentioned, A/C being everywhere is a reason. However, it's technology that is the culprit nowadays. Once these kids play stuff like X-Boxes and such, you can't get them off of it. This doesn't help in adjusting kids to the heat. The point is is that most kids today don't want to be outside cause it's "too hot" so they spend their summers on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare and eating. This is why our generation is seeing more heat issues at two-a-days. Thanks for bringing some perspective from someone actually living it. Do you ever discuss what you just posted with your peers? Do at least some of them see it the way you just wrote it? And do any of them actually get off their butts and do something about it.
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Post by Bluff fan on Jul 11, 2012 13:56:41 GMT -6
This really is interesting, as summer workouts aren't that long away. Being a freshman, it really is ironic to me that they eliminate two-a-days the year I start high school. I agree it is the fact about how the kids are raised into today. As mentioned, A/C being everywhere is a reason. However, it's technology that is the culprit nowadays. Once these kids play stuff like X-Boxes and such, you can't get them off of it. This doesn't help in adjusting kids to the heat. The point is is that most kids today don't want to be outside cause it's "too hot" so they spend their summers on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare and eating. This is why our generation is seeing more heat issues at two-a-days. Wow...very nice writing for a person of your age...no text or ghetto talk. Very nice.
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Post by 278ibewfb on Jul 11, 2012 13:57:42 GMT -6
This really is interesting, as summer workouts aren't that long away. Being a freshman, it really is ironic to me that they eliminate two-a-days the year I start high school. I agree it is the fact about how the kids are raised into today. As mentioned, A/C being everywhere is a reason. However, it's technology that is the culprit nowadays. Once these kids play stuff like X-Boxes and such, you can't get them off of it. This doesn't help in adjusting kids to the heat. The point is is that most kids today don't want to be outside cause it's "too hot" so they spend their summers on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare and eating. This is why our generation is seeing more heat issues at two-a-days. yep as a freshman you are on the computor communicating with a bunch of old farts..........in the a/c, be gone and go fall out of a couple of trees...............
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Post by SCBuffaloes16 on Jul 11, 2012 15:42:18 GMT -6
This really is interesting, as summer workouts aren't that long away. Being a freshman, it really is ironic to me that they eliminate two-a-days the year I start high school. I agree it is the fact about how the kids are raised into today. As mentioned, A/C being everywhere is a reason. However, it's technology that is the culprit nowadays. Once these kids play stuff like X-Boxes and such, you can't get them off of it. This doesn't help in adjusting kids to the heat. The point is is that most kids today don't want to be outside cause it's "too hot" so they spend their summers on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare and eating. This is why our generation is seeing more heat issues at two-a-days. Thanks for bringing some perspective from someone actually living it. Do you ever discuss what you just posted with your peers? Do at least some of them see it the way you just wrote it? And do any of them actually get off their butts and do something about it. Yup, I tell that to some of my friends and a couple of them agree with me. And there is a few, like me, who go to the SC Pride Camp on monday-thursday mornings. Usually about 30-40 9th graders go, and most came this morning despite the frequent rain going on in Schertz. There should be more, but that is just me.
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Post by SCBuffaloes16 on Jul 11, 2012 16:21:17 GMT -6
This really is interesting, as summer workouts aren't that long away. Being a freshman, it really is ironic to me that they eliminate two-a-days the year I start high school. I agree it is the fact about how the kids are raised into today. As mentioned, A/C being everywhere is a reason. However, it's technology that is the culprit nowadays. Once these kids play stuff like X-Boxes and such, you can't get them off of it. This doesn't help in adjusting kids to the heat. The point is is that most kids today don't want to be outside cause it's "too hot" so they spend their summers on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare and eating. This is why our generation is seeing more heat issues at two-a-days. Wow...very nice writing for a person of your age...no text or ghetto talk. Very nice. Thanks, and I usually get alot of comments on how I sound older than my age.
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Post by SCBuffaloes16 on Jul 11, 2012 16:24:25 GMT -6
This really is interesting, as summer workouts aren't that long away. Being a freshman, it really is ironic to me that they eliminate two-a-days the year I start high school. I agree it is the fact about how the kids are raised into today. As mentioned, A/C being everywhere is a reason. However, it's technology that is the culprit nowadays. Once these kids play stuff like X-Boxes and such, you can't get them off of it. This doesn't help in adjusting kids to the heat. The point is is that most kids today don't want to be outside cause it's "too hot" so they spend their summers on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare and eating. This is why our generation is seeing more heat issues at two-a-days. yep as a freshman you are on the computor communicating with a bunch of old farts..........in the a/c, be gone and go fall out of a couple of trees............... That's what I was going to do in the first place! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 7:53:29 GMT -6
Thanks for bringing some perspective from someone actually living it. Do you ever discuss what you just posted with your peers? Do at least some of them see it the way you just wrote it? And do any of them actually get off their butts and do something about it. Yup, I tell that to some of my friends and a couple of them agree with me. And there is a few, like me, who go to the SC Pride Camp on monday-thursday mornings. Usually about 30-40 9th graders go, and most came this morning despite the frequent rain going on in Schertz. There should be more, but that is just me. 30 to 40 is a good number for incoming Freshmen for workouts. It can be intimidating for a Fish to go to high school workouts. Take a pic of yourself now and save it and then take one of you Senior year and it's going to be like night and day. You guys should be proud of the effort.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 12, 2012 7:58:29 GMT -6
Yup, I tell that to some of my friends and a couple of them agree with me. And there is a few, like me, who go to the SC Pride Camp on monday-thursday mornings. Usually about 30-40 9th graders go, and most came this morning despite the frequent rain going on in Schertz. There should be more, but that is just me. 30 to 40 is a good number for incoming Freshmen for workouts. It can be intimidating for a Fish to go to high school workouts. Take a pic of yourself now and save it and then take one of you Senior year and it's going to be like night and day. You guys should be proud of the effort. That's a fact. We had junior high 7 - 9 and HS 10 - 12. I can remember getting off the bus at the HS summer after 9th for practice and seeing the seniors. Pretty intimidating indeed. Big change going from the JH varsity to sophmores at the HS.
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