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Post by gpjohn on Dec 22, 2011 9:24:19 GMT -6
I've always wondered what team Calallen crushed that you supported...your little heart will mend some day, I hope. I have no ties on the upside or downside from cal allen, but i did hear danahole referred to as such on the old board, so it stuck. I know facts may sting, but try to be a little objective - and the fact is, well im not too sure what that record is for sure but i think its 1-9 is it? Lets avoid referring to coaches or anybody by using a play on their name in a derogatory fashion.
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Post by OCCNH on Dec 22, 2011 10:26:19 GMT -6
well i'm just saying that herring's been there 5 years and the first year he decides to play all out he wins it all. danahole's been there since before GP invented football and he like what.. 1-9 in that semi round? in this sense, you're right - there's no comparison. I've always wondered what team Calallen crushed that you supported...your little heart will mend some day, I hope. This guy is starting to sound more like a Band Member than a player of the game.
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Post by footballhoodini on Dec 22, 2011 11:31:09 GMT -6
I have no ties on the upside or downside from cal allen, but i did hear danahole referred to as such on the old board, so it stuck. I know facts may sting, but try to be a little objective - and the fact is, well im not too sure what that record is for sure but i think its 1-9 is it? I guess I'm as objective as you are mature. maturity is as subjective as you are.
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Post by footballhoodini on Dec 22, 2011 11:32:08 GMT -6
I have no ties on the upside or downside from cal allen, but i did hear danahole referred to as such on the old board, so it stuck. I know facts may sting, but try to be a little objective - and the fact is, well im not too sure what that record is for sure but i think its 1-9 is it? Lets avoid referring to coaches or anybody by using a play on their name in a derogatory fashion. "derogatory" is also subjective
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Post by footballhoodini on Dec 22, 2011 11:35:33 GMT -6
i don't think there's a big difference at all if there was no way the other team was going to score. the only difference is he doesn't get to leave his starters in on offense if he subbed at 14-0, which was his gripe to begin with. Uh.....yes, there is a big difference between pulling all starters at half when it is 40 or 50-0 vs leaving them in through 3 quarters until it is 70+ to zip! If you cannot see that, then sorry for you. Clemens had some teams back in the late 90s that played in a HORRIBLE SA district. In fact, for two straight years they didn't get scored on, or if they did, it may have been 1 TD in those district games. Coach Lehnhoff started substituting as early as the end of the 1st quarter when the games were 28-0 / 35-0. He also allowed a 'running clock' in the 2nd half of all those games. I can vividly remember him getting on a 2nd or 3rd team RB that scored a TD late in the game that made the score 56-0. I don't believe he chewed on him for scoring but more for taking the play outside when it was a run up the middle. He was doing all he could to not score anymore by running simple dive plays up the middle and chewing up the clock with some 1st downs. Coach Jinks subbed some starters this year as early as the 1st quarter with a 13-0 lead and in several games in the 2nd quarter with leads as small as 21-0 or 21-7. He knew that his team had the other team completely outclassed as far as athlete to athlete and there was no need to run stats up on them. So, he starts subbing and getting young kids lots of valuable playing time as well as working on some 'out of the box' stuff he may use later down the line in the season. It is called Class and you either have it or you don't......IT IS THAT SIMPLE! Steele won the 5a D2 title last year and did NOT run it up on anyone and there were many games they could have! They made it back to the title game this year and could have absolutely blown some teams out but instead got a lot of sophs and even a few freshman valuable PT so that next year these kids can start the season off with a lot more confidence then what they would have if they had not received PT this year. You can color it any way you like but the bottom line there is absolute no reason to beat teams 80+ & 90+ to 7. There is absolutely no way in Hell you can justify running 2 pass plays & a reverse, and calling a TO w/ 2 seconds left in a playoff game to score on the final play of the game when you are up 3 scores. THERE IS NOT EXPLANATION TO JUSTIFY BS LIKE THAT! Like I've said before, congrats to the Bobcat kids on their championship..........too bad their classless coach gets one as well because he damn sure doesn't deserve to be called a champion! and how many titles did clemens win in the 90s when they were playing these bad teams? just wondering because i have no idea if they did or not. also, you can't compare steele's title run to refugio in terms of pre-playoff competition. the difference is that steele actually HAD competition/are in a much more favorable part of the state for competitive football, whereas refugio had to play southern teams in district for 7 games. keep trying to unjustify it if it colors your world, but he has the ringS...
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Post by footballhoodini on Dec 22, 2011 11:36:53 GMT -6
I've always wondered what team Calallen crushed that you supported...your little heart will mend some day, I hope. This guy is starting to sound more like a Band Member than a player of the game. which la marque teams kicked your az?
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Post by C5_96 on Dec 22, 2011 12:41:10 GMT -6
I guess I'm as objective as you are mature. maturity is as subjective as you are. Lol. What? goofy....
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Post by Clemensbuff on Dec 22, 2011 12:41:22 GMT -6
Uh.....yes, there is a big difference between pulling all starters at half when it is 40 or 50-0 vs leaving them in through 3 quarters until it is 70+ to zip! If you cannot see that, then sorry for you. Clemens had some teams back in the late 90s that played in a HORRIBLE SA district. In fact, for two straight years they didn't get scored on, or if they did, it may have been 1 TD in those district games. Coach Lehnhoff started substituting as early as the end of the 1st quarter when the games were 28-0 / 35-0. He also allowed a 'running clock' in the 2nd half of all those games. I can vividly remember him getting on a 2nd or 3rd team RB that scored a TD late in the game that made the score 56-0. I don't believe he chewed on him for scoring but more for taking the play outside when it was a run up the middle. He was doing all he could to not score anymore by running simple dive plays up the middle and chewing up the clock with some 1st downs. Coach Jinks subbed some starters this year as early as the 1st quarter with a 13-0 lead and in several games in the 2nd quarter with leads as small as 21-0 or 21-7. He knew that his team had the other team completely outclassed as far as athlete to athlete and there was no need to run stats up on them. So, he starts subbing and getting young kids lots of valuable playing time as well as working on some 'out of the box' stuff he may use later down the line in the season. It is called Class and you either have it or you don't......IT IS THAT SIMPLE! Steele won the 5a D2 title last year and did NOT run it up on anyone and there were many games they could have! They made it back to the title game this year and could have absolutely blown some teams out but instead got a lot of sophs and even a few freshman valuable PT so that next year these kids can start the season off with a lot more confidence then what they would have if they had not received PT this year. You can color it any way you like but the bottom line there is absolute no reason to beat teams 80+ & 90+ to 7. There is absolutely no way in Hell you can justify running 2 pass plays & a reverse, and calling a TO w/ 2 seconds left in a playoff game to score on the final play of the game when you are up 3 scores. THERE IS NOT EXPLANATION TO JUSTIFY BS LIKE THAT! Like I've said before, congrats to the Bobcat kids on their championship..........too bad their classless coach gets one as well because he damn sure doesn't deserve to be called a champion! and how many titles did clemens win in the 90s when they were playing these bad teams? just wondering because i have no idea if they did or not. also, you can't compare steele's title run to refugio in terms of pre-playoff competition. the difference is that steele actually HAD competition/are in a much more favorable part of the state for competitive football, whereas refugio had to play southern teams in district for 7 games. keep trying to unjustify it if it colors your world, but he has the ringS... Clemens won 0 titles and never got past the semi final round. unjustify? Sorry but if you think you cannot get your kids in 'game shape' in practice, then I don't know what to tell you. I can guarantee you playing your starters for 7 quarters against some of the teams they play and beating them 250 - 0 WILL NOT do a damn thing to improve them whatsoever. The fact is they won it because they had an outstanding 2a team with several very good athletes on it.......NOT because he played his starters 3+ quarters and beat some terrible teams unmercifully! As I stated, he had a HUGE team suited up for the playoffs and I AM PRETTY SURE that his freshman were probably better then those teams they donkey stomped and he could have given his 1s plenty of 'game time' type work in practice against the young ones in his program and gotten more in 'game shape' and more of a battle then he got from those other teams. I'm pretty sure you know this but in some way you are going to do your best to let us all know he is a really, really good man! Good men don't call a TO w/ 2 seconds left to score a TD in the playoffs on the last play of the game when they are already leading by 3 scores...................JERKS DO THIS!
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Post by C5_96 on Dec 22, 2011 12:42:14 GMT -6
This guy is starting to sound more like a Band Member than a player of the game. which la marque teams kicked your az? Oh, that burns so deep. lmao. weak sauce, man.
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Post by 278ibewfb on Dec 22, 2011 12:50:00 GMT -6
Uh.....yes, there is a big difference between pulling all starters at half when it is 40 or 50-0 vs leaving them in through 3 quarters until it is 70+ to zip! If you cannot see that, then sorry for you. Clemens had some teams back in the late 90s that played in a HORRIBLE SA district. In fact, for two straight years they didn't get scored on, or if they did, it may have been 1 TD in those district games. Coach Lehnhoff started substituting as early as the end of the 1st quarter when the games were 28-0 / 35-0. He also allowed a 'running clock' in the 2nd half of all those games. I can vividly remember him getting on a 2nd or 3rd team RB that scored a TD late in the game that made the score 56-0. I don't believe he chewed on him for scoring but more for taking the play outside when it was a run up the middle. He was doing all he could to not score anymore by running simple dive plays up the middle and chewing up the clock with some 1st downs. Coach Jinks subbed some starters this year as early as the 1st quarter with a 13-0 lead and in several games in the 2nd quarter with leads as small as 21-0 or 21-7. He knew that his team had the other team completely outclassed as far as athlete to athlete and there was no need to run stats up on them. So, he starts subbing and getting young kids lots of valuable playing time as well as working on some 'out of the box' stuff he may use later down the line in the season. It is called Class and you either have it or you don't......IT IS THAT SIMPLE! Steele won the 5a D2 title last year and did NOT run it up on anyone and there were many games they could have! They made it back to the title game this year and could have absolutely blown some teams out but instead got a lot of sophs and even a few freshman valuable PT so that next year these kids can start the season off with a lot more confidence then what they would have if they had not received PT this year. You can color it any way you like but the bottom line there is absolute no reason to beat teams 80+ & 90+ to 7. There is absolutely no way in Hell you can justify running 2 pass plays & a reverse, and calling a TO w/ 2 seconds left in a playoff game to score on the final play of the game when you are up 3 scores. THERE IS NOT EXPLANATION TO JUSTIFY BS LIKE THAT! Like I've said before, congrats to the Bobcat kids on their championship..........too bad their classless coach gets one as well because he damn sure doesn't deserve to be called a champion! and how many titles did clemens win in the 90s when they were playing these bad teams? just wondering because i have no idea if they did or not. also, you can't compare steele's title run to refugio in terms of pre-playoff competition. the difference is that steele actually HAD competition/are in a much more favorable part of the state for competitive football, whereas refugio had to play southern teams in district for 7 games. keep trying to unjustify it if it colors your world, but he has the ringS... well if your coach thinks they played weak teams south tell your great coach to schedule teams north of you all
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Post by footballhoodini on Dec 22, 2011 16:11:32 GMT -6
maturity is as subjective as you are. Lol. What? goofy.... how one defines maturity is subjective and deviates from culture to culture.
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Post by footballhoodini on Dec 22, 2011 16:19:07 GMT -6
Clemens won 0 titles and never got past the semi final round. unjustify? Sorry but if you think you cannot get your kids in 'game shape' in practice, then I don't know what to tell you. I can guarantee you playing your starters for 7 quarters against some of the teams they play and beating them 250 - 0 WILL NOT do a damn thing to improve them whatsoever. The fact is they won it because they had an outstanding 2a team with several very good athletes on it.......NOT because he played his starters 3+ quarters and beat some terrible teams unmercifully! As I stated, he had a HUGE team suited up for the playoffs and I AM PRETTY SURE that his freshman were probably better then those teams they donkey stomped and he could have given his 1s plenty of 'game time' type work in practice against the young ones in his program and gotten more in 'game shape' and more of a battle then he got from those other teams. I'm pretty sure you know this but in some way you are going to do your best to let us all know he is a really, really good man! Good men don't call a TO w/ 2 seconds left to score a TD in the playoffs on the last play of the game when they are already leading by 3 scores...................JERKS DO THIS! well first off, he played them 3 quarters - i think 7 quarters is more of a madden thing (when i get home from work pizt off i like to play 6 quarter 15 minute games on rookie level lol). a lot has to do with getting them accustomed to the lights and atmosphere and nerves and what not - whether you like to admit it or not, it helped greatly. they've been about the same talent-wise the last 2 years but didn't knock down the door until this year, and every single bit has to do with the playing time and other variables involving playing time. there's no way playing his freshman against the varsity could ever equate to playing a different team employing a different system on a different field. it's just not the same. lol I don't know and could care less how good of a man he is off the field - that's not my business, nor yours unless ur kin lol. However, let the rings talk for his coaching style.
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Post by footballhoodini on Dec 22, 2011 16:26:35 GMT -6
well if your coach thinks they played weak teams south tell your great coach to schedule teams north of you all he's not my coach. I'm a non-biased spectator and I appreciate greatness when I see it. lol now personally I think he was lucky to get what he had imho. none of those good teams want to do all that traveling for a meaningless game. they get the same comp. up state without the drive. now that he has a nice trophy, things might change - and i hope they do.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Dec 23, 2011 15:34:39 GMT -6
Clemens won 0 titles and never got past the semi final round. unjustify? Sorry but if you think you cannot get your kids in 'game shape' in practice, then I don't know what to tell you. I can guarantee you playing your starters for 7 quarters against some of the teams they play and beating them 250 - 0 WILL NOT do a damn thing to improve them whatsoever. The fact is they won it because they had an outstanding 2a team with several very good athletes on it.......NOT because he played his starters 3+ quarters and beat some terrible teams unmercifully! As I stated, he had a HUGE team suited up for the playoffs and I AM PRETTY SURE that his freshman were probably better then those teams they donkey stomped and he could have given his 1s plenty of 'game time' type work in practice against the young ones in his program and gotten more in 'game shape' and more of a battle then he got from those other teams. I'm pretty sure you know this but in some way you are going to do your best to let us all know he is a really, really good man! Good men don't call a TO w/ 2 seconds left to score a TD in the playoffs on the last play of the game when they are already leading by 3 scores...................JERKS DO THIS! well first off, he played them 3 quarters - i think 7 quarters is more of a madden thing (when i get home from work pizt off i like to play 6 quarter 15 minute games on rookie level lol). a lot has to do with getting them accustomed to the lights and atmosphere and nerves and what not - whether you like to admit it or not, it helped greatly. they've been about the same talent-wise the last 2 years but didn't knock down the door until this year, and every single bit has to do with the playing time and other variables involving playing time. there's no way playing his freshman against the varsity could ever equate to playing a different team employing a different system on a different field. it's just not the same. lol I don't know and could care less how good of a man he is off the field - that's not my business, nor yours unless ur kin lol. However, let the rings talk for his coaching style. WRONG! Calling a TO w/ 2 seconds to go in the game and scoring a TD on the next play when you are already winning by 3 scores is just flat out rubbing it in, NOT GETTING YOUR PLAYERS IN GAME SHAPE. Color it however you want it, he's NOT a good guy to pull something like that. He enjoys running it up on lesser teams and will get his one day.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Dec 23, 2011 15:37:24 GMT -6
Clemens won 0 titles and never got past the semi final round. unjustify? Sorry but if you think you cannot get your kids in 'game shape' in practice, then I don't know what to tell you. I can guarantee you playing your starters for 7 quarters against some of the teams they play and beating them 250 - 0 WILL NOT do a damn thing to improve them whatsoever. The fact is they won it because they had an outstanding 2a team with several very good athletes on it.......NOT because he played his starters 3+ quarters and beat some terrible teams unmercifully! As I stated, he had a HUGE team suited up for the playoffs and I AM PRETTY SURE that his freshman were probably better then those teams they donkey stomped and he could have given his 1s plenty of 'game time' type work in practice against the young ones in his program and gotten more in 'game shape' and more of a battle then he got from those other teams. I'm pretty sure you know this but in some way you are going to do your best to let us all know he is a really, really good man! Good men don't call a TO w/ 2 seconds left to score a TD in the playoffs on the last play of the game when they are already leading by 3 scores...................JERKS DO THIS! well first off, he played them 3 quarters - i think 7 quarters is more of a madden thing (when i get home from work pizt off i like to play 6 quarter 15 minute games on rookie level lol). a lot has to do with getting them accustomed to the lights and atmosphere and nerves and what not - whether you like to admit it or not, it helped greatly. they've been about the same talent-wise the last 2 years but didn't knock down the door until this year, and every single bit has to do with the playing time and other variables involving playing time. there's no way playing his freshman against the varsity could ever equate to playing a different team employing a different system on a different field. it's just not the same. lol I don't know and could care less how good of a man he is off the field - that's not my business, nor yours unless ur kin lol. However, let the rings talk for his coaching style. Did you ever play football yourself? What do you think the 'scout team' does every freaking week in practice??? LMAO Nuff said!
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