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Post by SouthTexasBloodsport on Jan 18, 2023 20:01:15 GMT -6
Cultures have to be created. I don't know that the Kingsville community cares about football or the program enough. Hopefully Garcia changes that.
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Post by warcat82 on Jan 19, 2023 9:08:27 GMT -6
Cultures have to be created. I don't know that the Kingsville community cares about football or the program enough. Hopefully Garcia changes that. So true. It's sad that their town is going to crap like it is. Between the lack of caring and the laziness, that town is drying up faster than Usain Bolt runs the 100...
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Post by picodegallo on Jan 19, 2023 9:23:14 GMT -6
Cultures have to be created. I don't know that the Kingsville community cares about football or the program enough. Hopefully Garcia changes that. Decades of A&I/TAMUK being the draw for even the locals by default put HM King in the background. It's not uncommon in a lot of college town for this to occur as you don't see high schools like San Marcos, Nacodoches, Commerce, Canyon, San Angelo High, etc. among the state elite or even within in their own Districts on a yearly basis. Even A&M Consolidated was second fiddle to university when Collie Station was a one high school town. Huntsville and Stephenville are kind of the exception. But HM King was just neglected for so long. I had a conversation and a long one at that with a former AD at Kingsville ISD back in late 70's and 80's and he tried hard to get HM King it's own stadium so it could be out of the shadow somewhat of the college and it fell on deaf ears. A&M Consolidated excelled in the late 80's when they built their own stadium and stopped using Kyle Field. It's something HM King should revisit if they are serious about a sustaining rebuild.
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 19, 2023 21:31:29 GMT -6
I saw this on a tweet about a couple weeks back, I was like WOW they got rid of Jefferson after a year as head coach, I know his time there was bad … I don’t mean bad but like seriously bad! Communication problems in games like substituting, wasting timeouts & stuff. If I remember that last game at Alice they had only 27 players suited & at the same bill later in the game the QB & the coach had that run in. It was a terrible situation down there. I don't even think they had sub-varsity for the later part of the season. The whole district needs a boost. I was commenting to my daughter who is in band back when we played Kingsville that they have long been bad in football with a few seasons here and there where they had a decent to good team. But the one constant they had was great band program and lots of kids participating in it. This year their band looked like a small Class 3A-sized band, and it was reflected in the quality of their performance at the band competitions. I mean their trailer had all the years they went to state listed on it and gone are any years from the past ten or so. Exactly! They didn’t fielded a freshman team & I agree that football program needs a serious OVERHAUL like bad. Kingsville football has been a embarrassment since they let go of Carrier. Davila failed & Jefferson failed miserably & he alienated his kids.
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 19, 2023 21:40:17 GMT -6
It was a terrible situation down there. I don't even think they had sub-varsity for the later part of the season. The whole district needs a boost. I was commenting to my daughter who is in band back when we played Kingsville that they have long been bad in football with a few seasons here and there where they had a decent to good team. But the one constant they had was great band program and lots of kids participating in it. This year their band looked like a small Class 3A-sized band, and it was reflected in the quality of their performance at the band competitions. I mean their trailer had all the years they went to state listed on it and gone are any years from the past ten or so. Yeah the last time I was down in Kingsville, I barely recognized it. The place is pretty much a ghost town of what it once was. As for the football program itself, Whit was their last truly good coach. They had some good assistant coaches that went elsewhere or dropped football completely because of the level of head coach has been a joke. They used to have some elite soccer teams both boys and girls, but even those are not even close to what they were. When I was there as the boys soccer coach, I would laugh at our girls coach because when we had home games scheduled he would tell the field crew not to mow so the grass would be longer to slow down teams like GP and Flour Bluff. It worked too lol, his teams rarely lost at home. I didn't mind because it slowed down the guys teams too lol... the old Mopac stadium though needed to be condemned at that point though, I'm sure it's still being used and no changes made to it either... That’s the sad part of Kingsville, I agree Whit was the TRUE head coach not to mention McCluskey till they did him dirty after the 98 season. Since then nobody hasn’t had the strongest of leadership to lead like McCluskey & Whit did. Hafley was a WASTE you already told me about his story, Hrncir was a lot worse than Hafley couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag just like Atwood. Wilcox was okay but left for Alvin & Carrier was okay but the board did him dirty. That’s when the embarrassment started when Davila took over & Jefferson made it 1000 times worse ….. I hope Garcia turns it around at his pace
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 19, 2023 21:41:43 GMT -6
Cultures have to be created. I don't know that the Kingsville community cares about football or the program enough. Hopefully Garcia changes that. Agreed & there becoming a basketball town & I hope Garcia turns it around to make them the contender like McCluskey & Whitaker did
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 19, 2023 21:51:15 GMT -6
Hopefully Garcia can get the Kingsville football program back to the days of McCluskey & Whit did because Brahma Football is an embarrassment for too long & they’re not the team that has been competitive. There’s not a James Jefferson to lead …. Jefferson, Davila, Hafley & especially Andy Hrncir those were WASTED hires. I know it’s gonna take Coach Garcia some time to get Kingsville Football to winning again soon just as long as he doesn’t lose kids to Bishop, Santa Gertrudis or Ben Bolt, I think he’ll turn it around well.
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Post by picodegallo on Jan 20, 2023 10:18:28 GMT -6
It was a terrible situation down there. I don't even think they had sub-varsity for the later part of the season. The whole district needs a boost. I was commenting to my daughter who is in band back when we played Kingsville that they have long been bad in football with a few seasons here and there where they had a decent to good team. But the one constant they had was great band program and lots of kids participating in it. This year their band looked like a small Class 3A-sized band, and it was reflected in the quality of their performance at the band competitions. I mean their trailer had all the years they went to state listed on it and gone are any years from the past ten or so. Exactly! They didn’t fielded a freshman team & I agree that football program needs a serious OVERHAUL like bad. Kingsville football has been a embarrassment since they let go of Carrier. Davila failed & Jefferson failed miserably & he alienated his kids. Garcia was interviewed yesterday by KRIS and he seems to know he has a very tall task in front of him which first is the kids buying into change. That's probably going to be the fastest way to get the community to buy in is if they see the kids go from really one of the bottom 10 programs in the state last year to one that shows fight in every game and maybe pulls off an upset or two next season. Then that's when he can go to community and say if you want these kids to build on this, give me the tools I need and we will get it done. I know they've had some turnover on the board and their Admin which is good and led to Jefferson and Davila being dismissed as AD and HC. Right there has been a huge part of the problem with a tone deaf and lack of will school board for years. Kingsville has had some talent over the years . They've had some very big teams and some good skill players come from that school . But they've lacked the will to keep a coach long enough to build a sustainable program that could be handed off to another coach and so on. Back in the 90's and early 2000's they had players signing with Texas and TCU among a few other colleges outside the area and poof it went gone after Whit left to PLC and has never been seen since then and this includes a few years playing in a valley district minus Calallen and Alice.
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Post by SouthTexasBloodsport on Jan 23, 2023 13:35:20 GMT -6
Exactly! They didn’t fielded a freshman team & I agree that football program needs a serious OVERHAUL like bad. Kingsville football has been a embarrassment since they let go of Carrier. Davila failed & Jefferson failed miserably & he alienated his kids. Garcia was interviewed yesterday by KRIS and he seems to know he has a very tall task in front of him which first is the kids buying into change. That's probably going to be the fastest way to get the community to buy in is if they see the kids go from really one of the bottom 10 programs in the state last year to one that shows fight in every game and maybe pulls off an upset or two next season. Then that's when he can go to community and say if you want these kids to build on this, give me the tools I need and we will get it done. I know they've had some turnover on the board and their Admin which is good and led to Jefferson and Davila being dismissed as AD and HC. Right there has been a huge part of the problem with a tone deaf and lack of will school board for years. Kingsville has had some talent over the years . They've had some very big teams and some good skill players come from that school . But they've lacked the will to keep a coach long enough to build a sustainable program that could be handed off to another coach and so on. Back in the 90's and early 2000's they had players signing with Texas and TCU among a few other colleges outside the area and poof it went gone after Whit left to PLC and has never been seen since then and this includes a few years playing in a valley district minus Calallen and Alice. Kingsville was very young. They have a good QB that was only a freshman or sophomore this last season. He's going to be very good by the time he's a senior.
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Post by warcat82 on Jan 23, 2023 22:50:16 GMT -6
Garcia was interviewed yesterday by KRIS and he seems to know he has a very tall task in front of him which first is the kids buying into change. That's probably going to be the fastest way to get the community to buy in is if they see the kids go from really one of the bottom 10 programs in the state last year to one that shows fight in every game and maybe pulls off an upset or two next season. Then that's when he can go to community and say if you want these kids to build on this, give me the tools I need and we will get it done. I know they've had some turnover on the board and their Admin which is good and led to Jefferson and Davila being dismissed as AD and HC. Right there has been a huge part of the problem with a tone deaf and lack of will school board for years. Kingsville has had some talent over the years . They've had some very big teams and some good skill players come from that school . But they've lacked the will to keep a coach long enough to build a sustainable program that could be handed off to another coach and so on. Back in the 90's and early 2000's they had players signing with Texas and TCU among a few other colleges outside the area and poof it went gone after Whit left to PLC and has never been seen since then and this includes a few years playing in a valley district minus Calallen and Alice. Kingsville was very young. They have a good QB that was only a freshman or sophomore this last season. He's going to be very good by the time he's a senior. The varsity kid was a freshman or sophomore? If that's the case that explains the bad throws he made a lot. The only really good kid I saw for them was that fast receiver. He had great skills but no one else to help him. If that varsity QB is that young of a kid as you said, I agree that by his senior year with the right coaching he will be a pretty good player.
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Post by SouthTexasBloodsport on Jan 24, 2023 13:52:41 GMT -6
Kingsville was very young. They have a good QB that was only a freshman or sophomore this last season. He's going to be very good by the time he's a senior. The varsity kid was a freshman or sophomore? If that's the case that explains the bad throws he made a lot. The only really good kid I saw for them was that fast receiver. He had great skills but no one else to help him. If that varsity QB is that young of a kid as you said, I agree that by his senior year with the right coaching he will be a pretty good player. Yeah he was the Varsity QB. His dad was a very good athlete for Ben-Bolt back around my playing days. I shared some of his highlights a few months ago. He definitely has potential.
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Post by warcat82 on Jan 24, 2023 15:28:22 GMT -6
The varsity kid was a freshman or sophomore? If that's the case that explains the bad throws he made a lot. The only really good kid I saw for them was that fast receiver. He had great skills but no one else to help him. If that varsity QB is that young of a kid as you said, I agree that by his senior year with the right coaching he will be a pretty good player. Yeah he was the Varsity QB. His dad was a very good athlete for Ben-Bolt back around my playing days. I shared some of his highlights a few months ago. He definitely has potential. Hopefully this new coach gets him to buy in and they can get rolling together.
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Post by picodegallo on Jan 25, 2023 8:26:54 GMT -6
Garcia was interviewed yesterday by KRIS and he seems to know he has a very tall task in front of him which first is the kids buying into change. That's probably going to be the fastest way to get the community to buy in is if they see the kids go from really one of the bottom 10 programs in the state last year to one that shows fight in every game and maybe pulls off an upset or two next season. Then that's when he can go to community and say if you want these kids to build on this, give me the tools I need and we will get it done. I know they've had some turnover on the board and their Admin which is good and led to Jefferson and Davila being dismissed as AD and HC. Right there has been a huge part of the problem with a tone deaf and lack of will school board for years. Kingsville has had some talent over the years . They've had some very big teams and some good skill players come from that school . But they've lacked the will to keep a coach long enough to build a sustainable program that could be handed off to another coach and so on. Back in the 90's and early 2000's they had players signing with Texas and TCU among a few other colleges outside the area and poof it went gone after Whit left to PLC and has never been seen since then and this includes a few years playing in a valley district minus Calallen and Alice. Kingsville was very young. They have a good QB that was only a freshman or sophomore this last season. He's going to be very good by the time he's a senior. They had to be very young because their program participation numbers were very bad. They didn't have a freshman team and their JV team was very small, so they had to load up their varsity with underclassmen too Hope they can turn it around and get that community to buy in. That's the tough part.
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 25, 2023 9:26:09 GMT -6
Exactly! They didn’t fielded a freshman team & I agree that football program needs a serious OVERHAUL like bad. Kingsville football has been a embarrassment since they let go of Carrier. Davila failed & Jefferson failed miserably & he alienated his kids. Garcia was interviewed yesterday by KRIS and he seems to know he has a very tall task in front of him which first is the kids buying into change. That's probably going to be the fastest way to get the community to buy in is if they see the kids go from really one of the bottom 10 programs in the state last year to one that shows fight in every game and maybe pulls off an upset or two next season. Then that's when he can go to community and say if you want these kids to build on this, give me the tools I need and we will get it done. I know they've had some turnover on the board and their Admin which is good and led to Jefferson and Davila being dismissed as AD and HC. Right there has been a huge part of the problem with a tone deaf and lack of will school board for years. Kingsville has had some talent over the years . They've had some very big teams and some good skill players come from that school . But they've lacked the will to keep a coach long enough to build a sustainable program that could be handed off to another coach and so on. Back in the 90's and early 2000's they had players signing with Texas and TCU among a few other colleges outside the area and poof it went gone after Whit left to PLC and has never been seen since then and this includes a few years playing in a valley district minus Calallen and Alice. That’s a true fact & Garcia has to clean the diabolical mess that Davila & Jefferson made & good to hear that the Brahma Boys are buying in so it’ll take some time to get the process in small steps “Rome wasn’t built in a day” to get the Brahma Program rolling again. Like I said Kingsville had some strong talent from McCluskey to Whit but everything went died down after Whit left.
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