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Post by Cochino on Jan 27, 2023 8:10:31 GMT -6
I'm guess the Holiday coach is leaving for a better gig. He's done a pretty solid job there going at least 3 rounds deep the past 6 seasons. I guess they think the Alice coach can keep that up or do better? He retired and he had been there for a number of years. It’s a surprising hire because you’d think they would’ve hired someone who had a similar w/l percentage albeit in a shorter time span because they might not have the years of experience. Maybe he had connections. Maybe his G-P buddy also helped with a recommendation. Who knows but for sure I don't get it either. That's a powerhouse 3A program hiring a guy with a bad record and I don't get it.
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Post by picodegallo on Jan 27, 2023 9:31:55 GMT -6
He retired and he had been there for a number of years. It’s a surprising hire because you’d think they would’ve hired someone who had a similar w/l percentage albeit in a shorter time span because they might not have the years of experience. Maybe he had connections. Maybe his G-P buddy also helped with a recommendation. Who knows but for sure I don't get it either. That's a powerhouse 3A program hiring a guy with a bad record and I don't get it. Yep. They should get a feel of things real quick. Especially because he's going to totally switch their offense up there from the Wing T to the Spread. That can go either way.
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jan 27, 2023 11:16:51 GMT -6
Hello; You got what you wished for. Maybe so but Atwood had several groups of kids he did nothing with. I hope Alice gets a good coach. The kids and community deserve it
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Post by ccwarcat on Jan 27, 2023 15:08:29 GMT -6
Maybe he had connections. Maybe his G-P buddy also helped with a recommendation. Who knows but for sure I don't get it either. That's a powerhouse 3A program hiring a guy with a bad record and I don't get it. Yep. They should get a feel of things real quick. Especially because he's going to totally switch their offense up there from the Wing T to the Spread. That can go either way. I have a feeling he’s going to schit the bed up there. Going to a place where 3 losses is beyond a bad season… 3 losses was his pinnacle goal in any season at Alice. I root for all people to do well in everything they do. He has to know that he set himself up, very well if he can pull it off… but also very badly if there’s even any hint of drop off.
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Post by buckball on Jan 27, 2023 15:17:22 GMT -6
Got no dog in the hunt, but here’s my thought. As much coaches get bashed especially the former coach, I don’t see any big names going after this one. You’d have to be a fool to think coaches don’t read this stuff. Coaches will do their research and come across this forum and they’ll say no thanks. Why anyone want to put their families through the misery? I think you’ll get someone looking for a first time HC job or you’ll need to stay in house. The only way Alice gets a big name is if they offer a blank check. But, at the first sign of trouble, he’ll get hammered by the experts, the arm chair QBs, and the locals. The cycle will repeat itself. I don’t know everything about the place or what happens behind the scenes. In fact, I think Alice is pretty darn good with tons of talented kids. I hope just the next coach will be given the opportunity to build a program before he gets a hammered like the last guy. I keep thinking about the old phrase “be careful what you wish for”. Again, not throwing shade, just putting in my two cents.
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 27, 2023 15:49:50 GMT -6
Congrats to Alice for getting rid of Atwood by his own choosing. I hope you guys get a great coach to restore the Alice program back to their glory days. He had been wanting out for several years. We’ll dig deep into the applicants who’ll lead our (Alice) boys with the talent returning
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Post by warcat82 on Jan 27, 2023 16:07:48 GMT -6
Congrats to Alice for getting rid of Atwood by his own choosing. I hope you guys get a great coach to restore the Alice program back to their glory days. He had been wanting out for several years. We’ll dig deep into the applicants who’ll lead our (Alice) boys with the talent returning Oh yes I knew he was trying to go elsewhere almost every year. Not sure how he sold himself to get this new job, but I'd wager that this time next year he's either fired from there or that he applies all over the state again trying to get somewhere else. Coaches like him are red flags honestly. They jump ship every where and apply everywhere every year. That tells me they have 0 interest in building a program or maintaining one that's successful for that matter.... As you guys found out in Alice, coaches like that ruin programs.
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 27, 2023 16:15:04 GMT -6
Hello; You got what you wished for. He’d been wanting out for several years at least. Atwood may’ve shown stability as an athletic director to say the least & at the same bill he’s not that great of a HC with him not opening up the playbook, players quitting or transferring, wasting timeouts in critical situations which had the faithful of Alice fans upset & whatnot, choking to a (3-7) team that we should’ve beat with the 32 seniors we (Alice) had …. I still haven’t gotten that out of my system since & especially mishandling the QB situation. Like I said the man had been wanting out for a while to stay close to home for his family & to his wife’s job … The man got his wish at the end …. Good riddance!
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Post by Javy2005 on Jan 27, 2023 16:34:27 GMT -6
He had been wanting out for several years. We’ll dig deep into the applicants who’ll lead our (Alice) boys with the talent returning Oh yes I knew he was trying to go elsewhere almost every year. Not sure how he sold himself to get this new job, but I'd wager that this time next year he's either fired from there or that he applies all over the state again trying to get somewhere else. Coaches like him are red flags honestly. They jump ship every where and apply everywhere every year. That tells me they have 0 interest in building a program or maintaining one that's successful for that matter.... As you guys found out in Alice, coaches like that ruin programs. Fact, lord knows about this situation. Everything that you stated is a “Certified Fact” when a coach applies & gets the job which they’ll lead for a couple years they have no interest in building a winning résumé in the long run to get a bigger & better HC gig. Short term coaches do that & the last coach that had that strong pedigree besides Bush & Whatley was Soza the man had his set till the board & politics ran him off & treated him like Old Yeller
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Post by Cochino on Jan 27, 2023 17:14:11 GMT -6
Got no dog in the hunt, but here’s my thought. As much coaches get bashed especially the former coach, I don’t see any big names going after this one. You’d have to be a fool to think coaches don’t read this stuff. Coaches will do their research and come across this forum and they’ll say no thanks. Why anyone want to put their families through the misery? I think you’ll get someone looking for a first time HC job or you’ll need to stay in house. The only way Alice gets a big name is if they offer a blank check. But, at the first sign of trouble, he’ll get hammered by the experts, the arm chair QBs, and the locals. The cycle will repeat itself. I don’t know everything about the place or what happens behind the scenes. In fact, I think Alice is pretty darn good with tons of talented kids. I hope just the next coach will be given the opportunity to build a program before he gets a hammered like the last guy. I keep thinking about the old phrase “be careful what you wish for”. Again, not throwing shade, just putting in my two cents. Your 2 cents is nonsense. We weren't expecting state titles every season but 3 losing seasons in 6 years and a 1st round loss to a 3-7 team this season was bad coaching. Be careful what we wish for? HE'S the one that's been trying to leave since his 2nd season in Alice. Bottom line is he underachieved. If we know he's been trying to leave for years then you can bet the players knew. He has every right to want to better his life but that's his concern not Alice's. You can't tell me a guy who wants out of a place is giving 100% and caring 100% of the future of the program. Edit: I'd also add that you're probably way too dramatic of a person if you think someone looking for a head coaching position is going to be influenced by what has-beens like us all write on a random forum.
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Post by bluecat on Jan 28, 2023 8:41:12 GMT -6
Ok you Yotes wanted Attwood out and he’s gone. So what the game plan? Who’s going to pressure the administration to open up the check book and go out and hire the next HC at Alice? Anyone who really expects the admin and school board to deviate from the same process the produced attwood a few years ago is still there. With tax revenue down from the lack of oil & gas activity right now could determine just how much they can offer a top notch HC. We all have watched and listened to you Yote fans for years Biotch at just about every coach that walked into Alice. So what are you Yote fans doing to change the mindset of those who will select the next HC at Alice?
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Post by sotex on Jan 28, 2023 9:40:04 GMT -6
Ok you Yotes wanted Attwood out and he’s gone. So what the game plan? Who’s going to pressure the administration to open up the check book and go out and hire the next HC at Alice? Anyone who really expects the admin and school board to deviate from the same process the produced attwood a few years ago is still there. With tax revenue down from the lack of oil & gas activity right now could determine just how much they can offer a top notch HC. We all have watched and listened to you Yote fans for years Biotch at just about every coach that walked into Alice. So what are you Yote fans doing to change the mindset of those who will select the next HC at Alice? Explain the bolded please. Nobody bitched about the Soza hire. Nobody bitched when Davis was hired. Nobody bitched about Whatley, Bush, Boyd, Henderson etc. I think you're mistaking Alice for GP. We saw the drama with Anastacio, Rhoades and even Harris. Oh and Lommis and Holt.
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Post by picodegallo on Jan 28, 2023 10:28:44 GMT -6
Ok you Yotes wanted Attwood out and he’s gone. So what the game plan? Who’s going to pressure the administration to open up the check book and go out and hire the next HC at Alice? Anyone who really expects the admin and school board to deviate from the same process the produced attwood a few years ago is still there. With tax revenue down from the lack of oil & gas activity right now could determine just how much they can offer a top notch HC. We all have watched and listened to you Yote fans for years Biotch at just about every coach that walked into Alice. So what are you Yote fans doing to change the mindset of those who will select the next HC at Alice? Explain the bolded please. Nobody bitched about the Soza hire. Nobody bitched when Davis was hired. Nobody bitched about Whatley, Bush, Boyd, Henderson etc. I think you're mistaking Alice for GP. We saw the drama with Anastacio, Rhoades and even Harris. Oh and Lommis and Holt. Alice is home of Dairy Diner. GP is the home of the best DQ in the state. Not DairyQueen, but Drama Queens.
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Post by Cochino on Jan 28, 2023 14:47:25 GMT -6
Ok you Yotes wanted Attwood out and he’s gone. So what the game plan? Who’s going to pressure the administration to open up the check book and go out and hire the next HC at Alice? Anyone who really expects the admin and school board to deviate from the same process the produced attwood a few years ago is still there. With tax revenue down from the lack of oil & gas activity right now could determine just how much they can offer a top notch HC. We all have watched and listened to you Yote fans for years Biotch at just about every coach that walked into Alice. So what are you Yote fans doing to change the mindset of those who will select the next HC at Alice? Atwood was getting over $90k at one point and I wouldn't doubt if it was 6 figures by the time he left. Salary isn't the problem. Alice has a reputation for administration meddling in the Head Coaches business and micromanaging. I also imagine letting Soza go how they did didn't help the image and weakened the candidate pool. Hopefully that rep is forgotten enough by now that legit candidates apply.
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Post by aic on Jan 28, 2023 16:36:49 GMT -6
Any rumors on any applicants?
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