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Post by rgvfb on Oct 31, 2020 19:11:53 GMT -6
pioneer has played two games and won them fairly easy. Easy enough to have backups in the second half. Pioneer qb got bigger and faster lol. Kids running a laser 4.6 and measured in at 6’2. Defense should be slightly better just on experience. I think the secondary is all 3or4 year starters. Pioneer won last night vs roma. Score was 50 something to 14 i think with backups in right at the half. Pioneers qb himself makes then a contender. Plus their rb/slot is really freaking good #15 I'm with you! lol Marburger looks silly dont forget about Gavin De La Garza tho along with Graham mercedes looks oretty good this year too. They beat a decent mchi and trashed psja memorial. They got some speed but i think pioneer will be too good for them. Saw elsa play versus donna north and they dont look that good. Donna north had 3 turnovers right before they were gonna score which obviously led to losing. Donna north was able to move the ball with ease on them just those tos killed em. Elsas defense did not get any pressure at all. 0 sacks. Mercedes and pioneer will toy with elsa if donna north running a copy of pioneers offense couldve beat then if it wasnt for turnovers
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Post by lhpfactory on Nov 1, 2020 12:33:51 GMT -6
Elgin done throwed a big ole wrench into D13.... Brenham and Rouse MAY decide the DC Friday... Eastview is still in position to win it or get a piece of it depending on how the games go. Elgin has the potential to win out, which includes 2 should wins and an upset over Brenham. Basically I think Glenn will get bumped out, EV, Rouse, and Brenham all go, and Elgin or Cedar Creek pull the 4th spot now.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 2, 2020 7:42:14 GMT -6
Is it fair to call Liberty Hill is the R4 favorite? BC does not seem to be as good as last season and Pioneer seems like they havent even played any games. Not sure anyone else stands out. LH has dominated everyone they have played and have not shown to be mistake prone. I'd say right now I would go LH/Pioneer as 1/2 or 2/1 and BC right after those 2. BC's defense is salty but their offense is not putting up many points the last 3 weeks averaging only about 23. LH's fans have said that their problems come defensively when defending a really good passing team....Pioneer is just that. That said, it may be equally the challenge for Pioneer to face that LH running attach and try and stop it as well. This would be a very, very interesting matchup for sure.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 2, 2020 7:54:55 GMT -6
Is it fair to call Liberty Hill is the R4 favorite? BC does not seem to be as good as last season and Pioneer seems like they havent even played any games. Not sure anyone else stands out. LH has dominated everyone they have played and have not shown to be mistake prone. Didn’t the Slot T Mafia establish this prior to the season? Not sure the reasoning behind Champion not being as good. Defense has given up 34 pts in 5 games. Should have beat Harker Heights if not for a few specialty team turnovers. And Harker just gave Temple a great game (38-36) It’ll all come out in the wash. Still have business to take care of Your D looks very solid but honestly, which of the 5 teams that you played has an offense that would rank as good or better than good to really know how good your defense truly is at this point? SAVM is not nearly the team most thought they'd be this year as they were blown out by Seguin??? SA Mac is TURRABLE and 0-5 and just lost to SA Lee. MV's offense is not good, and Tivy's offense has been non-existent this year and have been shutout twice....when was the last time a Tivy offense was shutout 2 times in a season? So, although BC's D looks really good so far, do we really know just how good they are with the competition faced? As far as Harker Heights goes, they typically do have some talent every year but they are 3-3 right now for a reason. They are an average 6a D2 team.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 2, 2020 8:04:11 GMT -6
“ educated”. More like boasting, and then realizing you haven’t played any teams worth boasting about. BC defense is better than last year, and offense is getting better and better, will peak at the right time. Definitely educated, confident yep, also knew we wouldn’t be challenged till the playoffs. Boasting nope, just know our boys.... No doubt LH's offense is very, very good at what they do and can control a game. What I'd like to know is how you think your defense would handle Pioneer's offense? Right now I honestly think BC, LH, & Pioneer are all pretty much toss-up games if played today. I have LH & Pioneer just a tad above BC simply because BC's offense is not very overwhelming at all right now and struggling to put up points (less than 23 ppg the last 3 games).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 8:06:01 GMT -6
Didn’t the Slot T Mafia establish this prior to the season? Not sure the reasoning behind Champion not being as good. Defense has given up 34 pts in 5 games. Should have beat Harker Heights if not for a few specialty team turnovers. And Harker just gave Temple a great game (38-36) It’ll all come out in the wash. Still have business to take care of Your D looks very solid but honestly, which of the 5 teams that you played has an offense that would rank as good or better than good to really know how good your defense truly is at this point? SAVM is not nearly the team most thought they'd be this year as they were blown out by Seguin??? SA Mac is TURRABLE and 0-5 and just lost to SA Lee. MV's offense is not good, and Tivy's offense has been non-existent this year and have been shutout twice....when was the last time a Tivy offense was shutout 2 times in a season? So, although BC's D looks really good so far, do we really know just how good they are with the competition faced? As far as Harker Heights goes, they typically do have some talent every year but they are 3-3 right now for a reason. They are an average 6a D2 team. Harker Heights lost to Bryan in their first District game this year. Bryan was a 2 win dumpster fire last season. Saw several of their games last year.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 2, 2020 8:11:16 GMT -6
Is it fair to call Liberty Hill is the R4 favorite? BC does not seem to be as good as last season and Pioneer seems like they havent even played any games. Not sure anyone else stands out. LH has dominated everyone they have played and have not shown to be mistake prone. pioneer has played two games and won them fairly easy. Easy enough to have backups in the second half. Pioneer qb got bigger and faster lol. Kids running a laser 4.6 and measured in at 6’2. Defense should be slightly better just on experience. I think the secondary is all 3or4 year starters. Pioneer won last night vs roma. Score was 50 something to 14 i think with backups in right at the half. Pioneers qb himself makes then a contender. Plus their rb/slot is really freaking good #15 Damn good measurables! And no doubt after watching him play last year he is a BALLER. I would think his stock will go up tremendously this year and some big offers will come. He played great last year against BC and what killed Pioneer were big time drops by the WRs IMO.
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Post by WAC on Nov 2, 2020 8:14:24 GMT -6
Definitely educated, confident yep, also knew we wouldn’t be challenged till the playoffs. Boasting nope, just know our boys.... No doubt LH's offense is very, very good at what they do and can control a game. What I'd like to know is how you think your defense would handle Pioneer's offense? Right now I honestly think BC, LH, & Pioneer are all pretty much toss-up games if played today. I have LH & Pioneer just a tad above BC simply because BC's offense is not very overwhelming at all right now and struggling to put up points (less than 23 ppg the last 3 games). If we’re going to play the “but who have you played game” let’s also look at LH and Pioneers schedule. Like I mentioned earlier, Harker Heights put up 36 vs Temple who is no slouch and favored to win that district. The BC defense gave up 13 of the 20 they scored. I agree the top 3 at this point would seem to be BC, LH, and Pioneer. There’s only one way to know who is better and that’ll happen in a little over a month.
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Post by WAC on Nov 2, 2020 8:16:14 GMT -6
Your D looks very solid but honestly, which of the 5 teams that you played has an offense that would rank as good or better than good to really know how good your defense truly is at this point? SAVM is not nearly the team most thought they'd be this year as they were blown out by Seguin??? SA Mac is TURRABLE and 0-5 and just lost to SA Lee. MV's offense is not good, and Tivy's offense has been non-existent this year and have been shutout twice....when was the last time a Tivy offense was shutout 2 times in a season? So, although BC's D looks really good so far, do we really know just how good they are with the competition faced? As far as Harker Heights goes, they typically do have some talent every year but they are 3-3 right now for a reason. They are an average 6a D2 team. Harker Heights lost to Bryan in their first District game this year. Bryan was a 2 win dumpster fire last season. Saw several of their games last year. But are 3-1 this year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 8:19:03 GMT -6
No doubt LH's offense is very, very good at what they do and can control a game. What I'd like to know is how you think your defense would handle Pioneer's offense? Right now I honestly think BC, LH, & Pioneer are all pretty much toss-up games if played today. I have LH & Pioneer just a tad above BC simply because BC's offense is not very overwhelming at all right now and struggling to put up points (less than 23 ppg the last 3 games). If we’re going to play the “but who have you played game” let’s also look at LH and Pioneers schedule. Like I mentioned earlier, Harker Heights put up 36 vs Temple who is no slouch and favored to win that district. The BC defense gave up 13 of the 20 they scored. I agree the top 3 at this point would seem to be BC, LH, and Pioneer. There’s only one way to know who is better and that’ll happen in a little over a month. Yep, playoffs in little over a month. Just remember it gets hard to pass the ball when it gets really cold and windy. Advantage LH. Better find a dome!
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Post by WAC on Nov 2, 2020 8:20:50 GMT -6
If we’re going to play the “but who have you played game” let’s also look at LH and Pioneers schedule. Like I mentioned earlier, Harker Heights put up 36 vs Temple who is no slouch and favored to win that district. The BC defense gave up 13 of the 20 they scored. I agree the top 3 at this point would seem to be BC, LH, and Pioneer. There’s only one way to know who is better and that’ll happen in a little over a month. Yep, playoffs in little over a month. Just remember it gets hard to pass the ball when it gets really cold and windy. Advantage LH. Better find a dome! I assume you’re talking to Pioneer. Champion runs more than it throws
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 2, 2020 8:25:52 GMT -6
No doubt LH's offense is very, very good at what they do and can control a game. What I'd like to know is how you think your defense would handle Pioneer's offense? Right now I honestly think BC, LH, & Pioneer are all pretty much toss-up games if played today. I have LH & Pioneer just a tad above BC simply because BC's offense is not very overwhelming at all right now and struggling to put up points (less than 23 ppg the last 3 games). If we’re going to play the “but who have you played game” let’s also look at LH and Pioneers schedule. Like I mentioned earlier, Harker Heights put up 36 vs Temple who is no slouch and favored to win that district. The BC defense gave up 13 of the 20 they scored. I agree the top 3 at this point would seem to be BC, LH, and Pioneer. There’s only one way to know who is better and that’ll happen in a little over a month. My question was for the LH poster really but since my post caught your eye as well I'll go ahead an ask you this. You've stated on this thread that your offense at BC is getting better each week. How do you come up with this when the fact is you haven't broken the 30 mark scoring since your second game this year? I know Tivy has a very good defense especially up front because I've watched them play. But 14 against HH and only 27 against MV? VM got 38 on MV and Alamo Heights got 30 on them. So, how do you make the statement that your offense is getting better when the output on the scoreboard doesn't show that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 8:27:42 GMT -6
" what killed Pioneer were big time drops by the WRs IMO." Those drops keep getting brought up as though they cost them the game. They didn't, in fact none of them mattered much as they ended up scoring on each of those drives. Or, the drop was offset by a similar mistake (turnover) by BC to give them the ball back.
Neither LH or Pioneer have played anyone with much of a pulse. BC has had much better competition. Yes, the offense is a work in progress, no doubt.
I wonder why Brenham isn't even being discussed? I haven't watched any of their film, but they seem to be playing decent after a slow start.
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Post by WAC on Nov 2, 2020 8:27:54 GMT -6
If we’re going to play the “but who have you played game” let’s also look at LH and Pioneers schedule. Like I mentioned earlier, Harker Heights put up 36 vs Temple who is no slouch and favored to win that district. The BC defense gave up 13 of the 20 they scored. I agree the top 3 at this point would seem to be BC, LH, and Pioneer. There’s only one way to know who is better and that’ll happen in a little over a month. My question was for the LH poster really but since my post caught your eye as well I'll go ahead an ask you this. You've stated on this thread that your offense at BC is getting better each week. How do you come up with this when the fact is you haven't broken the 30 mark scoring since your second game this year? I know Tivy has a very good defense especially up front because I've watched them play. But 14 against HH and only 27 against MV? VM got 38 on MV and Alamo Heights got 30 on them. So, how do you make the statement that your offense is getting better when the output on the scoreboard doesn't show that? Quote me where I said that
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 2, 2020 8:28:07 GMT -6
If we’re going to play the “but who have you played game” let’s also look at LH and Pioneers schedule. Like I mentioned earlier, Harker Heights put up 36 vs Temple who is no slouch and favored to win that district. The BC defense gave up 13 of the 20 they scored. I agree the top 3 at this point would seem to be BC, LH, and Pioneer. There’s only one way to know who is better and that’ll happen in a little over a month. Yep, playoffs in little over a month. Just remember it gets hard to pass the ball when it gets really cold and windy. Advantage LH. Better find a dome! If you are throwing deep down the field maybe. Short passing game with quick hit timing routes is not really affected by the wind all that much if any and this is south texas were we don't have to worry about many games with temps below 50 degrees even in December. lmao
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