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Post by picodegallo on Apr 1, 2020 9:41:29 GMT -6
I heard they've vastly upgraded their program since 2017. I know they got in trouble with TAPPS with their boy's basketball program due to some of their recruiting practices which means they must have really pushed the envelope and then some to get removed a private school league. Exactly man! I've never understood why any private or charter school is allowed to compete in the UIL at all...…...PERIOD! I also have a big, big problem with these charter schools receiving funding from the state! They are allowed to pick and choose which students they allow in, collect the funding, then boot them out whenever they want after they've received that funding. Then those students end up right back in the public school they came from! I bet if the state 'pro-rated' that funding and did not pay them from the time that child was dismissed they would be a little slower on the trigger to keep only the cream of the crop at those schools and make themselves look like they are just killing it with their educational skills when in fact they are absolutely no better than any public school! I absolutely agree Private schools should not be allowed to play in UIL athletics . I'm kind of mixed on the Charter school thing. The creation of Charter schools in some locations in the state helped shake the education establishment which in some locales became corrupt to the core. There was period in the late 90's and 2000's when these schools really started taking off that you had school board members in various ISD's in the RGV who were being charged and convicted for accepting and soliciting bribes among other high crimes and misdemeanors. This on top of many of the ISD's being top heavy on administration and non essential staff ( IE employment agencies for political paybacks) and the resources the state provided because of this not getting directly to the front lines in the form of good teacher pay and retention and other classroom needs. The Charter school system that was born from this down there was the IDEA academy which started off small with the right idea of giving kids who were mostly low income an option to go to another school who couldn't afford a church based or some other form of private education. But now that IDEA concept has grown all over Texas, so they should be able to stand on their own two feet without state help or very little if they are getting it. So I can understand why some parents, taxpayers, educators want to do these Charter schools because they see trying to change the direction of things at the ballot box as a useless exercise. If we allow them to get state dollars of any sort, they should not be allowed to become a business upon themselves or a conglomerate (see IDEA) not should religious based schools get these dollars. And I say the later with all due respect for the job private religious education does. You can't on one hand say let us exercise our constitutional rights and not be interfered with the state and then ask the state for direct dollars to operate a school which in some cases is only available to a target demo (officially or unofficially) . Really it's a tough issue to resolve what to do with kids who are not being well served by a local ISD. Politics in some areas blinds parents/ taxpayers in placing people in charge who really don't have the kids or the ISD's best interest at heart. I mean look at La Marque ISD and how they crashed. Robstown, just next door to Calallen , was borderline to following that same route a few times until they shaped it up somewhat. Premont, south of Alice was a .10 of an inch from being closed and they actually did a complete 360 and are doing well now. Honestly I think we have too many ISD's across the state and some consolidation should be considered. I was curious to see where most public charter schools do for athletics and from the UIL realignments list, they mostly have basketball at the 3A and below levels. Most of those kids are going to schools for academics.
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Post by FB fan on Apr 2, 2020 9:05:56 GMT -6
Exactly man! I've never understood why any private or charter school is allowed to compete in the UIL at all...…...PERIOD! I also have a big, big problem with these charter schools receiving funding from the state! They are allowed to pick and choose which students they allow in, collect the funding, then boot them out whenever they want after they've received that funding. Then those students end up right back in the public school they came from! I bet if the state 'pro-rated' that funding and did not pay them from the time that child was dismissed they would be a little slower on the trigger to keep only the cream of the crop at those schools and make themselves look like they are just killing it with their educational skills when in fact they are absolutely no better than any public school! I absolutely agree Private schools should not be allowed to play in UIL athletics . I'm kind of mixed on the Charter school thing. The creation of Charter schools in some locations in the state helped shake the education establishment which in some locales became corrupt to the core. There was period in the late 90's and 2000's when these schools really started taking off that you had school board members in various ISD's in the RGV who were being charged and convicted for accepting and soliciting bribes among other high crimes and misdemeanors. This on top of many of the ISD's being top heavy on administration and non essential staff ( IE employment agencies for political paybacks) and the resources the state provided because of this not getting directly to the front lines in the form of good teacher pay and retention and other classroom needs. The Charter school system that was born from this down there was the IDEA academy which started off small with the right idea of giving kids who were mostly low income an option to go to another school who couldn't afford a church based or some other form of private education. But now that IDEA concept has grown all over Texas, so they should be able to stand on their own two feet without state help or very little if they are getting it. So I can understand why some parents, taxpayers, educators want to do these Charter schools because they see trying to change the direction of things at the ballot box as a useless exercise. If we allow them to get state dollars of any sort, they should not be allowed to become a business upon themselves or a conglomerate (see IDEA) not should religious based schools get these dollars. And I say the later with all due respect for the job private religious education does. You can't on one hand say let us exercise our constitutional rights and not be interfered with the state and then ask the state for direct dollars to operate a school which in some cases is only available to a target demo (officially or unofficially) . Really it's a tough issue to resolve what to do with kids who are not being well served by a local ISD. Politics in some areas blinds parents/ taxpayers in placing people in charge who really don't have the kids or the ISD's best interest at heart. I mean look at La Marque ISD and how they crashed. Robstown, just next door to Calallen , was borderline to following that same route a few times until they shaped it up somewhat. Premont, south of Alice was a .10 of an inch from being closed and they actually did a complete 360 and are doing well now. Honestly I think we have too many ISD's across the state and some consolidation should be considered. I was curious to see where most public charter schools do for athletics and from the UIL realignments list, they mostly have basketball at the 3A and below levels. Most of those kids are going to schools for academics. They don't follow the same rules and have destroyed public school sports in every other state they have been allowed in. Check it for yourself.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Apr 2, 2020 9:17:12 GMT -6
Exactly man! I've never understood why any private or charter school is allowed to compete in the UIL at all...…...PERIOD! I also have a big, big problem with these charter schools receiving funding from the state! They are allowed to pick and choose which students they allow in, collect the funding, then boot them out whenever they want after they've received that funding. Then those students end up right back in the public school they came from! I bet if the state 'pro-rated' that funding and did not pay them from the time that child was dismissed they would be a little slower on the trigger to keep only the cream of the crop at those schools and make themselves look like they are just killing it with their educational skills when in fact they are absolutely no better than any public school! I absolutely agree Private schools should not be allowed to play in UIL athletics . I'm kind of mixed on the Charter school thing. The creation of Charter schools in some locations in the state helped shake the education establishment which in some locales became corrupt to the core. There was period in the late 90's and 2000's when these schools really started taking off that you had school board members in various ISD's in the RGV who were being charged and convicted for accepting and soliciting bribes among other high crimes and misdemeanors. This on top of many of the ISD's being top heavy on administration and non essential staff ( IE employment agencies for political paybacks) and the resources the state provided because of this not getting directly to the front lines in the form of good teacher pay and retention and other classroom needs. The Charter school system that was born from this down there was the IDEA academy which started off small with the right idea of giving kids who were mostly low income an option to go to another school who couldn't afford a church based or some other form of private education. But now that IDEA concept has grown all over Texas, so they should be able to stand on their own two feet without state help or very little if they are getting it. So I can understand why some parents, taxpayers, educators want to do these Charter schools because they see trying to change the direction of things at the ballot box as a useless exercise. If we allow them to get state dollars of any sort, they should not be allowed to become a business upon themselves or a conglomerate (see IDEA) not should religious based schools get these dollars. And I say the later with all due respect for the job private religious education does. You can't on one hand say let us exercise our constitutional rights and not be interfered with the state and then ask the state for direct dollars to operate a school which in some cases is only available to a target demo (officially or unofficially) . Really it's a tough issue to resolve what to do with kids who are not being well served by a local ISD. Politics in some areas blinds parents/ taxpayers in placing people in charge who really don't have the kids or the ISD's best interest at heart. I mean look at La Marque ISD and how they crashed. Robstown, just next door to Calallen , was borderline to following that same route a few times until they shaped it up somewhat. Premont, south of Alice was a .10 of an inch from being closed and they actually did a complete 360 and are doing well now. Honestly I think we have too many ISD's across the state and some consolidation should be considered. I was curious to see where most public charter schools do for athletics and from the UIL realignments list, they mostly have basketball at the 3A and below levels. Most of those kids are going to schools for academics. I hear you man and agree with you especially when it comes to some ISDs and the 'top heaviness'. Is this any different than any government agency or publicly held company/corporation? lmao I just feel if a private school is going to pick and choose who they allow to attend, then they should not receive a dime of taxpayer dollars! Honestly, do you think these private schools such as the IDEA or KIPP academy schools are not run like a business? Yes I do believe they are trying to do some good things for the kids but at the end of the day whether it is true public education or private all are run as a business.
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Post by picodegallo on Apr 2, 2020 9:30:06 GMT -6
I absolutely agree Private schools should not be allowed to play in UIL athletics . I'm kind of mixed on the Charter school thing. The creation of Charter schools in some locations in the state helped shake the education establishment which in some locales became corrupt to the core. There was period in the late 90's and 2000's when these schools really started taking off that you had school board members in various ISD's in the RGV who were being charged and convicted for accepting and soliciting bribes among other high crimes and misdemeanors. This on top of many of the ISD's being top heavy on administration and non essential staff ( IE employment agencies for political paybacks) and the resources the state provided because of this not getting directly to the front lines in the form of good teacher pay and retention and other classroom needs. The Charter school system that was born from this down there was the IDEA academy which started off small with the right idea of giving kids who were mostly low income an option to go to another school who couldn't afford a church based or some other form of private education. But now that IDEA concept has grown all over Texas, so they should be able to stand on their own two feet without state help or very little if they are getting it. So I can understand why some parents, taxpayers, educators want to do these Charter schools because they see trying to change the direction of things at the ballot box as a useless exercise. If we allow them to get state dollars of any sort, they should not be allowed to become a business upon themselves or a conglomerate (see IDEA) not should religious based schools get these dollars. And I say the later with all due respect for the job private religious education does. You can't on one hand say let us exercise our constitutional rights and not be interfered with the state and then ask the state for direct dollars to operate a school which in some cases is only available to a target demo (officially or unofficially) . Really it's a tough issue to resolve what to do with kids who are not being well served by a local ISD. Politics in some areas blinds parents/ taxpayers in placing people in charge who really don't have the kids or the ISD's best interest at heart. I mean look at La Marque ISD and how they crashed. Robstown, just next door to Calallen , was borderline to following that same route a few times until they shaped it up somewhat. Premont, south of Alice was a .10 of an inch from being closed and they actually did a complete 360 and are doing well now. Honestly I think we have too many ISD's across the state and some consolidation should be considered. I was curious to see where most public charter schools do for athletics and from the UIL realignments list, they mostly have basketball at the 3A and below levels. Most of those kids are going to schools for academics. They don't follow the same rules and have destroyed public school sports in every other state they have been allowed in. Check it for yourself. I agree. I think however basketball has been the sport where it's been the most noticeable. You look at where most of the players who are going to the NBA after doing a one year tour at a college are coming from, and they many come from the Private School market. Football I'd say not so much, but they do have an influence in places like California where they don't crown real state champions anyway. In football crazy states like Texas, Florida, Ohio , Georgia, among a few others, the public schools still rule the roost.
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Post by picodegallo on Apr 2, 2020 9:42:41 GMT -6
I absolutely agree Private schools should not be allowed to play in UIL athletics . I'm kind of mixed on the Charter school thing. The creation of Charter schools in some locations in the state helped shake the education establishment which in some locales became corrupt to the core. There was period in the late 90's and 2000's when these schools really started taking off that you had school board members in various ISD's in the RGV who were being charged and convicted for accepting and soliciting bribes among other high crimes and misdemeanors. This on top of many of the ISD's being top heavy on administration and non essential staff ( IE employment agencies for political paybacks) and the resources the state provided because of this not getting directly to the front lines in the form of good teacher pay and retention and other classroom needs. The Charter school system that was born from this down there was the IDEA academy which started off small with the right idea of giving kids who were mostly low income an option to go to another school who couldn't afford a church based or some other form of private education. But now that IDEA concept has grown all over Texas, so they should be able to stand on their own two feet without state help or very little if they are getting it. So I can understand why some parents, taxpayers, educators want to do these Charter schools because they see trying to change the direction of things at the ballot box as a useless exercise. If we allow them to get state dollars of any sort, they should not be allowed to become a business upon themselves or a conglomerate (see IDEA) not should religious based schools get these dollars. And I say the later with all due respect for the job private religious education does. You can't on one hand say let us exercise our constitutional rights and not be interfered with the state and then ask the state for direct dollars to operate a school which in some cases is only available to a target demo (officially or unofficially) . Really it's a tough issue to resolve what to do with kids who are not being well served by a local ISD. Politics in some areas blinds parents/ taxpayers in placing people in charge who really don't have the kids or the ISD's best interest at heart. I mean look at La Marque ISD and how they crashed. Robstown, just next door to Calallen , was borderline to following that same route a few times until they shaped it up somewhat. Premont, south of Alice was a .10 of an inch from being closed and they actually did a complete 360 and are doing well now. Honestly I think we have too many ISD's across the state and some consolidation should be considered. I was curious to see where most public charter schools do for athletics and from the UIL realignments list, they mostly have basketball at the 3A and below levels. Most of those kids are going to schools for academics. I hear you man and agree with you especially when it comes to some ISDs and the 'top heaviness'. Is this any different than any government agency or publicly held company/corporation? lmao I just feel if a private school is going to pick and choose who they allow to attend, then they should not receive a dime of taxpayer dollars! Honestly, do you think these private schools such as the IDEA or KIPP academy schools are not run like a business? Yes I do believe they are trying to do some good things for the kids but at the end of the day whether it is true public education or private all are run as a business. Yea we are on the same page for the most part. I know when IDEA first got started and from what I was told by a good friend of mine who had family attend they had real strict standards and thus compliance which had to be followed by both parent(s) and student in order for them to attend. In other words they didn't want slackards and trouble makers getting into their system because the goal was to get kids out a a system which kept those slackards and troublemakers around much to the disruption of the learning environment. And we know all too well hearing from teachers, administrators, our own kids and among others that a few of the slackards/troublemakers are often ignored by their own parents by being flat out lazy or denial (my little Johnny is an angel, but now he's spending time in TDC) . This IDEA concept put a huge burden on the parent(s) to keep involved in their kids education and if they didn't do their part, it jeopardized the kid's ability to attend.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 12:39:12 GMT -6
2 defensive starters for Judson just transferred to that Cornerstone team Calallen is gonna play.
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Post by picodegallo on May 21, 2020 12:51:15 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 21:28:24 GMT -6
Cornerstone appears to be loaded. Not sure why FBfan has been mocking them as an opponent.
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Post by gp37 on May 22, 2020 2:31:51 GMT -6
I have friend who pays over $9,000 per year for each of his 2 students to attend a private school and has to drive them to school each morning. It only goes to 8th grade and then he had to transfer them to Sinton HS. The private school education was superior to Sinton school. Unionistas run Corpus Schools. School choice sends a lot of students to John Paul where you get a better education.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 22, 2020 6:06:16 GMT -6
Cornerstone appears to be loaded. Not sure why FBfan has been mocking them as an opponent. Yup They weren't squat a couple years back but their schedule/results from last year told me they are a solid squad. They beat the team from Mexico that PLC lost to by 12. That alone says they are a damn good team to me.
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Post by raidercatphenomsmellmyown on May 22, 2020 11:38:21 GMT -6
Well sounds like them Cats will have their work cut out for them, Cornerstone will be the faster team on the field no doubt. This is a good challenge and will help Cal work on what they need to.
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Post by picodegallo on May 22, 2020 16:07:59 GMT -6
Well sounds like them Cats will have their work cut out for them, Cornerstone will be the faster team on the field no doubt. This is a good challenge and will help Cal work on what they need to. I believe we play them the week after Tivy. If our boys aren't ready for district after those two games, I don't know what else will get them ready. And really the non district schedule is pretty tough. GP- Will be a challenge because they will not want to lose to that little 4A school a few miles away... LOL Los Fresnos- Very large 6A high school in the RGV---- and playing there. They've had some decent ball clubs going back a few years now. The Valley peeps both on the field and stands get pumped when we play down there and that is worth a TD already on the scoreboard before the game even starts. Kerrville Tivy- Tivy is Tivy and they will want to get that playoff game back and now Cornerstone- If the game falls into the time frame when college coaches can drop into to watch a game from the sidelines, expect this one to be such a game with them knowing Calallen is a tough team to see against these three and probably a few others if they are instantly becoming the magnet for top college talent in the San Antonio area. The only breather is going to Jourdanton. And this maybe true for the balance of the season save the TM game.
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Post by FB fan on May 23, 2020 9:23:40 GMT -6
Cornerstone appears to be loaded. Not sure why FBfan has been mocking them as an opponent. Possible I have put too much weight into what they have been. Lots keep saying how much improvement they have made recently. We'll see how big a turnaround they have made. No doubt they are heavy into the cancer private schools always bring, recruiting.
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Post by raidercatphenomsmellmyown on May 24, 2020 11:49:34 GMT -6
Well sounds like them Cats will have their work cut out for them, Cornerstone will be the faster team on the field no doubt. This is a good challenge and will help Cal work on what they need to. I believe we play them the week after Tivy. If our boys aren't ready for district after those two games, I don't know what else will get them ready. And really the non district schedule is pretty tough. GP- Will be a challenge because they will not want to lose to that little 4A school a few miles away... LOL Los Fresnos- Very large 6A high school in the RGV---- and playing there. They've had some decent ball clubs going back a few years now. The Valley peeps both on the field and stands get pumped when we play down there and that is worth a TD already on the scoreboard before the game even starts. Kerrville Tivy- Tivy is Tivy and they will want to get that playoff game back and now Cornerstone- If the game falls into the time frame when college coaches can drop into to watch a game from the sidelines, expect this one to be such a game with them knowing Calallen is a tough team to see against these three and probably a few others if they are instantly becoming the magnet for top college talent in the San Antonio area. The only breather is going to Jourdanton. And this maybe true for the balance of the season save the TM game. Yes that is a tough schedule and we may take some lumps early. I’m glad Cal is playing Tivy, that’s a high flying offense that seeing early can be beneficial down the road.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 17:23:46 GMT -6
Well sounds like them Cats will have their work cut out for them, Cornerstone will be the faster team on the field no doubt. This is a good challenge and will help Cal work on what they need to. We should be able to find out more of what SA Cornerstone has week 2 when they play Carthage. With them and Calallen on their schedule they are definitely not shying away from competition.
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