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Post by FB fan on May 1, 2016 17:43:02 GMT -6
Every pro baseball game we see on tv now has a pitch tracker that shows if the pitch was a ball or strike. It adds to my enjoyment but also illustrates the inaccuracies in umps calling the pitches. I think it is time to cure these miscalls as replay has some others. The home ump just has to glance at a remote sensor that flashes red or green automatically and bingo no more miscalls. I would love to see the end of the umps who "set their own strike zone."
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Post by catfromwayback on May 1, 2016 23:04:07 GMT -6
I've often wondered how those things adjust to each hitter's height and/or stance. The windage part is easy because it is the same for every hitter.
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Post by FB fan on May 2, 2016 9:04:07 GMT -6
I've often wondered how those things adjust to each hitter's height and/or stance. The windage part is easy because it is the same for every hitter. Do a google search. There is a lot to it taking four different angles by special sensor cameras with batter height, stance and position in the equation.
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Post by flowtowntigers on May 2, 2016 9:41:00 GMT -6
might as well let the robots hit and pitch too.
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Post by FB fan on May 2, 2016 10:16:06 GMT -6
might as well let the robots hit and pitch too. How is wanting more accuracy is judging what the human pitcher threw when that ability is available related to robots replacing pitchers? You like inaccuracies? Want to do away with replays in all sports? Not me, I love the ability to get correct judgements.
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Post by warrior1520 on May 3, 2016 7:19:18 GMT -6
might as well let the robots hit and pitch too. How is wanting more accuracy is judging what the human pitcher threw when that ability is available related to robots replacing pitchers? You like inaccuracies? Want to do away with replays in all sports? Not me, I love the ability to get correct judgements. That would be a step closer to eliminating the umpires all together. With instant replay determining base calls and a strike machine calling balls and strikes, what other reason would we need them for?
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Post by FB fan on May 3, 2016 8:54:46 GMT -6
How is wanting more accuracy is judging what the human pitcher threw when that ability is available related to robots replacing pitchers? You like inaccuracies? Want to do away with replays in all sports? Not me, I love the ability to get correct judgements. That would be a step closer to eliminating the umpires all together. With instant replay determining base calls and a strike machine calling balls and strikes, what other reason would we need them for? If you did that irate managers couldn't kick dirt on anyones shoes. It would just be another tool like instant replay for umps to use.
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Post by picodegallo on May 3, 2016 10:04:45 GMT -6
That would be a step closer to eliminating the umpires all together. With instant replay determining base calls and a strike machine calling balls and strikes, what other reason would we need them for? If you did that irate managers couldn't kick dirt on anyones shoes. It would just be another tool like instant replay for umps to use. They can just go find the camera man and spit in their face.
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Post by catfromwayback on May 3, 2016 17:06:17 GMT -6
Umps would still be needed for rules calls and the system could never be perfect because of the necessity of bang bang calls like judging whether or not a fly ball was caught cleanly or trapped as the base runners must react to the call. Replay could be used to clear it up but the rhythm of the play would be all jacked up. I agree with Fan about getting it as close to correct as possible in regards to balls and strikes, but I don't want to see the game compromised.
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Post by FB fan on May 3, 2016 17:44:11 GMT -6
Umps would still be needed for rules calls and the system could never be perfect because of the necessity of bang bang calls like judging whether or not a fly ball was caught cleanly or trapped as the base runners must react to the call. Replay could be used to clear it up but the rhythm of the play would be all jacked up. I agree with Fan about getting it as close to correct as possible in regards to balls and strikes, but I don't want to see the game compromised. What I envision is if it is a close call on strike or ball. Ump glances at remote he has the size of a car key fob. Red led light strike, green its a ball. Signal would be instantaneous with ball touching the zone or not. No slow down at all.
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Post by catfromwayback on May 3, 2016 22:52:40 GMT -6
I agree about the balls and strikes and I'm all for that. I was talking about the thought of not needing any umps on the field at all.
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Post by FB fan on May 3, 2016 23:26:38 GMT -6
I agree about the balls and strikes and I'm all for that. I was talking about the thought of not needing any umps on the field at all. Always will need umps. HBP? Foul tip or not? On and on. I just want to give them a tool for calling balls and strikes that is consistent, accurate and better than having a guy stand with two people moving around between him and the plate and guessing if a 95 mph pitch crossed any part of that plate he can't really see.
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Post by gpjohn on May 10, 2016 13:02:28 GMT -6
Umps would still be needed for rules calls and the system could never be perfect because of the necessity of bang bang calls like judging whether or not a fly ball was caught cleanly or trapped as the base runners must react to the call. Replay could be used to clear it up but the rhythm of the play would be all jacked up. I agree with Fan about getting it as close to correct as possible in regards to balls and strikes, but I don't want to see the game compromised. CFWB, do you wish they had instant replay on a certain football play a few years back? was it a fumble or was he down? I think umpires add to the game. Sure they are going to make mistakes. But I think 99.99% of them do their very best to get it right. I seriously doubt there is any cheating done by umpires.
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Post by FB fan on May 10, 2016 14:51:18 GMT -6
Umps would still be needed for rules calls and the system could never be perfect because of the necessity of bang bang calls like judging whether or not a fly ball was caught cleanly or trapped as the base runners must react to the call. Replay could be used to clear it up but the rhythm of the play would be all jacked up. I agree with Fan about getting it as close to correct as possible in regards to balls and strikes, but I don't want to see the game compromised. CFWB, do you wish they had instant replay on a certain football play a few years back? was it a fumble or was he down? I think umpires add to the game. Sure they are going to make mistakes. But I think 99.99% of them do their very best to get it right. I seriously doubt there is any cheating done by umpires. Not about cheating. We now have the technical ability to be 100 percent accurate and use that ability in many areas of sports. That does not do away with umps nor would this. It simply accurately displays if the pitch touched the strike zone or not. We watch it displayed on our tv screens already. Sometimes the umps get it right but far too often with best effort they don't and that is right there for all to see. That should not be allowed as it changes outcomes. We used to not be able to do better, now we can. Can't explain it any more simply. I will work on a coloring book version later.
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Post by catfromwayback on May 11, 2016 8:56:06 GMT -6
Umps would still be needed for rules calls and the system could never be perfect because of the necessity of bang bang calls like judging whether or not a fly ball was caught cleanly or trapped as the base runners must react to the call. Replay could be used to clear it up but the rhythm of the play would be all jacked up. I agree with Fan about getting it as close to correct as possible in regards to balls and strikes, but I don't want to see the game compromised. CFWB, do you wish they had instant replay on a certain football play a few years back? was it a fumble or was he down? I think umpires add to the game. Sure they are going to make mistakes. But I think 99.99% of them do their very best to get it right. I seriously doubt there is any cheating done by umpires. I don't think umps "cheating" is widespread at all, but it DOES happen. I've seen it happen on more than one occasion with guys that are just too emotional to even not make it obvious. One example that has been brought up in the past was the State semi-final game a few years ago where the home plate ump was so obviously against Calallen that immediately after the game was over (Calallen did manage to win in extra innings) the UIL sent the entire crew of umps home early and told them they would never be invited back again. True story. Getting a call right can't hurt the game and if it's as simple as FBfan says it would be to implement, I say do it as long as it DOESN'T AFFECT THE RHYTHM OF THE GAME. If I were to give it a lot of thought, I could see where the ball/strike thing could be a bit of a problem and maybe why it hasn't been implemented as of yet. Example: Runner at 2nd, 2 outs.....1 ball and 2 strikes on the hitter. Runner breaks on the pitch trying to steal 3rd. Pitch is called a strike for out #3...so the catcher doesn't even attempt a throw to 3rd....upon further review the pitch is changed to a ball. Uh oh.....what now? the catcher could have easily thrown out the runner at 3rd had he attempted to. Can't send the runner back and now we have a 2-2 count on the hitter. I'm sure there are plenty more examples of where a snap call needs to be made on ball/strikes.
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