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Post by TWolvesFan on Jul 1, 2015 8:42:25 GMT -6
This is an article I found about another interesting issue brought up at the UIL meeting in June (besides dividing up 5a football into two divisions). Below was taken from the Marble Falls online paper called DailyTrib.com and can be found at the following link: www.dailytrib.com/2015/06/22/uil-asked-to-break-up-sports-powerhouse-district-25-5a/
JENNIFER FIERRO • STAFF WRITER
AUSTIN - Officials at school districts in Class 5A Region IV asked the University Interscholastic League to break up District 25-5A while the Legislative Council was meeting June 17-18. Marble Falls High School is a member of that district. Their reasoning was because the district captured all nine of the athletic regional championships during the 2014-15 school year.
UIL officials said when they crafted District 25-5A, or any other district, they weren’t intentionally creating a “power” district. It has more to do with geography than anything else.UIL Deputy Director Jamey Harrison said an understanding of how realignment works helps clarify how districts are created.Class 6A, which has the state’s high schools with the largest enrollment, is always created first. That means the 245 schools with at least 2,100 students enrolled make up that class. Class 6A membership is capped at 245 schools, Harrison said. Then, UIL officials go to Class 5A. This conference has 253 schools, the largest number of members of all the classes. The enrollment begins at 1,060 and ends at 2,099. The class with the fewest schools is Class 4A with 186. The enrollment begins at 465 students and ends with 1,059.
“We have a lot of schools with fewer than 500 students and more schools with 1,000 students,” Harrison said. "We have few schools between 500 and 1,000 students. We’re trying to control the districts with the largest and the smallest."
UIL officials have conducted studies that reveal that schools with the largest enrollments in their conferences tend to perform very well in district and postseason play. While District 25-5A might have won all the athletic regional championships, Harrison pointed out that the UIL also offers state championships in academics and other extra-curricular activities such as band and debate.
But the district in question also demonstrates success in non-athletic UIL competitions as well. In 2013, the last time the two largest conferences could advance to the state marching band contest, Austin Vandegrift won the state championship, while Cedar Park, which was the reigning champion, finished as the runner-up and Cedar Park Vista Ridge was third. All three have been in the same district with Marble Falls for at least the past two realignments. While it might appear a power district was created in Class 5A Region IV, Harrison said the UIL did not purposely do that. “How good a school is in this activity or that is not part of the classification,” he said. “We place them in districts based on geography.” Harrison added it’s impossible for anyone, including the UIL, to know in advance that one district will win every regional championship.
“There’s no way to … predict or say who’s going to be good in one activity or how good they’re going to be for two years in a row,” he said. Last year, was the first year for schools in their current districts, which will stay the same during the 2015-16 school year. Enrollment numbers for grades 8-11 are due to the UIL in October. The organization will use that data to create districts. The UIL announces realignment for the 2016-17 and 2017-18 school years in February 2016.
jfierro@thepicayune.com
Humm, I wonder which schools districts in Region IV complained?
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Post by CC_Varmints on Jul 1, 2015 8:53:03 GMT -6
This is an article I found about another interesting issue brought up at the UIL meeting in June (besides dividing up 5a football into two divisions). Below was taken from the Marble Falls online paper called DailyTrib.com and can be found at the following link: www.dailytrib.com/2015/06/22/uil-asked-to-break-up-sports-powerhouse-district-25-5a/
JENNIFER FIERRO • STAFF WRITER
AUSTIN - Officials at school districts in Class 5A Region IV asked the University Interscholastic League to break up District 25-5A while the Legislative Council was meeting June 17-18. Marble Falls High School is a member of that district. Their reasoning was because the district captured all nine of the athletic regional championships during the 2014-15 school year.
UIL officials said when they crafted District 25-5A, or any other district, they weren’t intentionally creating a “power” district. It has more to do with geography than anything else.UIL Deputy Director Jamey Harrison said an understanding of how realignment works helps clarify how districts are created.Class 6A, which has the state’s high schools with the largest enrollment, is always created first. That means the 245 schools with at least 2,100 students enrolled make up that class. Class 6A membership is capped at 245 schools, Harrison said. Then, UIL officials go to Class 5A. This conference has 253 schools, the largest number of members of all the classes. The enrollment begins at 1,060 and ends at 2,099. The class with the fewest schools is Class 4A with 186. The enrollment begins at 465 students and ends with 1,059.
“We have a lot of schools with fewer than 500 students and more schools with 1,000 students,” Harrison said. "We have few schools between 500 and 1,000 students. We’re trying to control the districts with the largest and the smallest."
UIL officials have conducted studies that reveal that schools with the largest enrollments in their conferences tend to perform very well in district and postseason play. While District 25-5A might have won all the athletic regional championships, Harrison pointed out that the UIL also offers state championships in academics and other extra-curricular activities such as band and debate.
But the district in question also demonstrates success in non-athletic UIL competitions as well. In 2013, the last time the two largest conferences could advance to the state marching band contest, Austin Vandegrift won the state championship, while Cedar Park, which was the reigning champion, finished as the runner-up and Cedar Park Vista Ridge was third. All three have been in the same district with Marble Falls for at least the past two realignments. While it might appear a power district was created in Class 5A Region IV, Harrison said the UIL did not purposely do that. “How good a school is in this activity or that is not part of the classification,” he said. “We place them in districts based on geography.” Harrison added it’s impossible for anyone, including the UIL, to know in advance that one district will win every regional championship.
“There’s no way to … predict or say who’s going to be good in one activity or how good they’re going to be for two years in a row,” he said. Last year, was the first year for schools in their current districts, which will stay the same during the 2015-16 school year. Enrollment numbers for grades 8-11 are due to the UIL in October. The organization will use that data to create districts. The UIL announces realignment for the 2016-17 and 2017-18 school years in February 2016.
jfierro@thepicayune.com
Humm, I wonder which schools districts in Region IV complained? Had to be the Austin area District 26-5A, whom 25-5A faces in the First Round every year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 10:46:49 GMT -6
This is an article I found about another interesting issue brought up at the UIL meeting in June (besides dividing up 5a football into two divisions). Below was taken from the Marble Falls online paper called DailyTrib.com and can be found at the following link: www.dailytrib.com/2015/06/22/uil-asked-to-break-up-sports-powerhouse-district-25-5a/
JENNIFER FIERRO • STAFF WRITER
AUSTIN - Officials at school districts in Class 5A Region IV asked the University Interscholastic League to break up District 25-5A while the Legislative Council was meeting June 17-18. Marble Falls High School is a member of that district. Their reasoning was because the district captured all nine of the athletic regional championships during the 2014-15 school year.
UIL officials said when they crafted District 25-5A, or any other district, they weren’t intentionally creating a “power” district. It has more to do with geography than anything else.UIL Deputy Director Jamey Harrison said an understanding of how realignment works helps clarify how districts are created.Class 6A, which has the state’s high schools with the largest enrollment, is always created first. That means the 245 schools with at least 2,100 students enrolled make up that class. Class 6A membership is capped at 245 schools, Harrison said. Then, UIL officials go to Class 5A. This conference has 253 schools, the largest number of members of all the classes. The enrollment begins at 1,060 and ends at 2,099. The class with the fewest schools is Class 4A with 186. The enrollment begins at 465 students and ends with 1,059.
“We have a lot of schools with fewer than 500 students and more schools with 1,000 students,” Harrison said. "We have few schools between 500 and 1,000 students. We’re trying to control the districts with the largest and the smallest."
UIL officials have conducted studies that reveal that schools with the largest enrollments in their conferences tend to perform very well in district and postseason play. While District 25-5A might have won all the athletic regional championships, Harrison pointed out that the UIL also offers state championships in academics and other extra-curricular activities such as band and debate.
But the district in question also demonstrates success in non-athletic UIL competitions as well. In 2013, the last time the two largest conferences could advance to the state marching band contest, Austin Vandegrift won the state championship, while Cedar Park, which was the reigning champion, finished as the runner-up and Cedar Park Vista Ridge was third. All three have been in the same district with Marble Falls for at least the past two realignments. While it might appear a power district was created in Class 5A Region IV, Harrison said the UIL did not purposely do that. “How good a school is in this activity or that is not part of the classification,” he said. “We place them in districts based on geography.” Harrison added it’s impossible for anyone, including the UIL, to know in advance that one district will win every regional championship.
“There’s no way to … predict or say who’s going to be good in one activity or how good they’re going to be for two years in a row,” he said. Last year, was the first year for schools in their current districts, which will stay the same during the 2015-16 school year. Enrollment numbers for grades 8-11 are due to the UIL in October. The organization will use that data to create districts. The UIL announces realignment for the 2016-17 and 2017-18 school years in February 2016.
jfierro@thepicayune.com
Humm, I wonder which schools districts in Region IV complained? They should add a classification and rework the numbers.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 13, 2015 9:00:20 GMT -6
This is an article I found about another interesting issue brought up at the UIL meeting in June (besides dividing up 5a football into two divisions). Below was taken from the Marble Falls online paper called DailyTrib.com and can be found at the following link: www.dailytrib.com/2015/06/22/uil-asked-to-break-up-sports-powerhouse-district-25-5a/
JENNIFER FIERRO • STAFF WRITER
AUSTIN - Officials at school districts in Class 5A Region IV asked the University Interscholastic League to break up District 25-5A while the Legislative Council was meeting June 17-18. Marble Falls High School is a member of that district. Their reasoning was because the district captured all nine of the athletic regional championships during the 2014-15 school year.
UIL officials said when they crafted District 25-5A, or any other district, they weren’t intentionally creating a “power” district. It has more to do with geography than anything else.UIL Deputy Director Jamey Harrison said an understanding of how realignment works helps clarify how districts are created.Class 6A, which has the state’s high schools with the largest enrollment, is always created first. That means the 245 schools with at least 2,100 students enrolled make up that class. Class 6A membership is capped at 245 schools, Harrison said. Then, UIL officials go to Class 5A. This conference has 253 schools, the largest number of members of all the classes. The enrollment begins at 1,060 and ends at 2,099. The class with the fewest schools is Class 4A with 186. The enrollment begins at 465 students and ends with 1,059.
“We have a lot of schools with fewer than 500 students and more schools with 1,000 students,” Harrison said. "We have few schools between 500 and 1,000 students. We’re trying to control the districts with the largest and the smallest."
UIL officials have conducted studies that reveal that schools with the largest enrollments in their conferences tend to perform very well in district and postseason play. While District 25-5A might have won all the athletic regional championships, Harrison pointed out that the UIL also offers state championships in academics and other extra-curricular activities such as band and debate.
But the district in question also demonstrates success in non-athletic UIL competitions as well. In 2013, the last time the two largest conferences could advance to the state marching band contest, Austin Vandegrift won the state championship, while Cedar Park, which was the reigning champion, finished as the runner-up and Cedar Park Vista Ridge was third. All three have been in the same district with Marble Falls for at least the past two realignments. While it might appear a power district was created in Class 5A Region IV, Harrison said the UIL did not purposely do that. “How good a school is in this activity or that is not part of the classification,” he said. “We place them in districts based on geography.” Harrison added it’s impossible for anyone, including the UIL, to know in advance that one district will win every regional championship.
“There’s no way to … predict or say who’s going to be good in one activity or how good they’re going to be for two years in a row,” he said. Last year, was the first year for schools in their current districts, which will stay the same during the 2015-16 school year. Enrollment numbers for grades 8-11 are due to the UIL in October. The organization will use that data to create districts. The UIL announces realignment for the 2016-17 and 2017-18 school years in February 2016.
jfierro@thepicayune.com
Humm, I wonder which schools districts in Region IV complained? They should add a classification and rework the numbers. I completely agree with you AA. 6a currently has schools like Allen and the Plano schools with 5500-6000 kids and then you have the lower end of the spectrum with ones like ours with only 2200 or even a little less. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Heck, I know that it comes down to money and travel expenses/time, but something needs to be done! 6-6a has the potential to send two teams into D2 6a that both have 5300+. It is ridiculous that you could have a school with 5300+ matching up with one with under 2200. 6-6a ALLEN 5987 PLANO WEST 5531 PLANO 5394.5 PLANO EAST 5300 LEWISVILLE 3981 LEWISVILLE FLOWER MOUND 3310 LEWISVILLE MARCUS 3236 LEWISVILLE HEBRON 3235 MCKINNEY BOYD 3043
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Post by swarmwarrior212 on Jul 24, 2015 15:26:56 GMT -6
They should add a classification and rework the numbers. I completely agree with you AA. 6a currently has schools like Allen and the Plano schools with 5500-6000 kids and then you have the lower end of the spectrum with ones like ours with only 2200 or even a little less. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Heck, I know that it comes down to money and travel expenses/time, but something needs to be done! 6-6a has the potential to send two teams into D2 6a that both have 5300+. It is ridiculous that you could have a school with 5300+ matching up with one with under 2200. 6-6a ALLEN 5987 PLANO WEST 5531 PLANO 5394.5 PLANO EAST 5300 LEWISVILLE 3981 LEWISVILLE FLOWER MOUND 3310 LEWISVILLE MARCUS 3236 LEWISVILLE HEBRON 3235 MCKINNEY BOYD 3043 I can't imagine how it's like to run a school with 5000+ kids. You would think they would just make a new school so kids aren't traveling so far to go to school. In CCISD, they are adding a new school and rezoning the areas for each school. 3 of the 5 curret schools are 6a. (ray, King and Carrol). They're trying to make it to where each school is 5a. So the city can have their own district. Also the ever expanding super powerhouse of Flour Bluff that is comparable Aledo (this is for you cochino) has a good chunk of kids who live in the CCISD area, but pay to go to FB. The new school is being built in the area that many of those kids live. We've already lost a couple football players because of the new school. So FB should stay 5a. As for 25-5a, I,ve expressed my hatred for this district a couple times already on this forum. But as the Article reinforces, realignments are purely geographical. I say if you're tired of getting beat, stop crying about it and get better. Or you can just....
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Post by gpking on Jul 25, 2015 9:37:26 GMT -6
I completely agree with you AA. 6a currently has schools like Allen and the Plano schools with 5500-6000 kids and then you have the lower end of the spectrum with ones like ours with only 2200 or even a little less. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Heck, I know that it comes down to money and travel expenses/time, but something needs to be done! 6-6a has the potential to send two teams into D2 6a that both have 5300+. It is ridiculous that you could have a school with 5300+ matching up with one with under 2200. 6-6a ALLEN 5987 PLANO WEST 5531 PLANO 5394.5 PLANO EAST 5300 LEWISVILLE 3981 LEWISVILLE FLOWER MOUND 3310 LEWISVILLE MARCUS 3236 LEWISVILLE HEBRON 3235 MCKINNEY BOYD 3043 I can't imagine how it's like to run a school with 5000+ kids. You would think they would just make a new school so kids aren't traveling so far to go to school. In CCISD, they are adding a new school and rezoning the areas for each school. 3 of the 5 curret schools are 6a. (ray, King and Carrol). They're trying to make it to where each school is 5a. So the city can have their own district. Also the ever expanding super powerhouse of Flour Bluff that is comparable Aledo (this is for you cochino) has a good chunk of kids who live in the CCISD area, but pay to go to FB. The new school is being built in the area that many of those kids live. We've already lost a couple football players because of the new school. So FB should stay 5a. As for 25-5a, I,ve expressed my hatred for this district a couple times already on this forum. But as the Article reinforces, realignments are purely geographical. I say if you're tired of getting beat, stop crying about it and get better. Or you can just.... Yup so why has FB never been to the Semis?
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Post by swarmwarrior212 on Jul 25, 2015 10:38:01 GMT -6
I can't imagine how it's like to run a school with 5000+ kids. You would think they would just make a new school so kids aren't traveling so far to go to school. In CCISD, they are adding a new school and rezoning the areas for each school. 3 of the 5 curret schools are 6a. (ray, King and Carrol). They're trying to make it to where each school is 5a. So the city can have their own district. Also the ever expanding super powerhouse of Flour Bluff that is comparable Aledo (this is for you cochino) has a good chunk of kids who live in the CCISD area, but pay to go to FB. The new school is being built in the area that many of those kids live. We've already lost a couple football players because of the new school. So FB should stay 5a. As for 25-5a, I,ve expressed my hatred for this district a couple times already on this forum. But as the Article reinforces, realignments are purely geographical. I say if you're tired of getting beat, stop crying about it and get better. Or you can just.... Yup so why has FB never been to the Semis? We were trash pre-2000s. In 2005, we lost to pflugerville 21-28. FB could've won that game if it wasn't for all the turnovers they made. In 2012, FB beats #5 leander but loses 34-0 to the not as good leander rouse. The team received a lot of attention for beating leander and took on this attitude of satisfaction for beating an Austin area team. I don't think they went in prepared and let rouse tear them apart. Andrus play calling didn't help either Those were the two times we were in the regional finals. Last year I feel we could've gone to the semis. FB put up a good fight in the first half of the vandergrift game 21-28. But then they fell apart in the fourth quarter losing 27-49. vandergrift went on to beat LBJ Austin who is good, but not as good as vandergrift. Temple would've DESTROYED us in the semis though To win state, you have to be good every single week. You can never have an off week. IMO that's Flour Bluffs problem.
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