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Post by tigers on Aug 5, 2013 12:02:53 GMT -6
West might have QB issues... kid has never played it ... This East and lack of discipline thing is way overplayed maybe under Finley but not Gonzales if you know anything about coach G you would know he is big on work ethic and discipline Sorry, and no offense, but I don't agree. When discipline goes south, it's impossible to get control until a "good Progam" is established....then discipline grows in a possitive way. VE does not have a "Good Program" established....If they did, with the athaletes like they have, they could be one of the best teams in the District or even Area. They have speed, size, and numbers. Get all of that in a "Good Established Program" and you can make some noise. Again under Finley there was that perception but not under coach Gonzakes... I know of several players last year that where purged from the program for discipline reasons ... I guess you could say a "good program" is being established , it took along time for that to happen in Pt Lavaca give it a little time
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Post by vetitan69 on Aug 5, 2013 19:38:37 GMT -6
In his second career start with a strained hamstring sophomore Ortega threw for 359yds and rushed for additional 122. The clinic he put on was with his arm, and for whoever made the comment that hes not as good as he thinks he is, obviously you know nothing of this kid. Hes as humble as he is talented and will most likely be drafted into the MLB or at worse will sign with a D1 college for baseball. West had no answer for him and if healthy he will shine!
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Post by tigers on Aug 5, 2013 20:02:45 GMT -6
In his second career start with a strained hamstring sophomore Ortega threw for 359yds and rushed for additional 122. The clinic he put on was with his arm, and for whoever made the comment that hes not as good as he thinks he is, obviously you know nothing of this kid. Hes as humble as he is talented and will most likely be drafted into the MLB or at worse will sign with a D1 college for baseball. West had no answer for him and if healthy he will shine! Ortega is a stud no doubt and he was phenomenal down the stretch East better hope he doesn't play timid to protect himself for baseball ... New D coordinator at east as well
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Post by avert on Aug 5, 2013 20:45:28 GMT -6
East for sure has more talent than west. I don't think it's close. Offensively they were/are talented.... idk if the coach had something to do with it or just pure talent. I'm not convinced he was the reason for Ray's success. I think he was only there 2 years?. I think the jury is still out on that. As for West I think their comment about losing good di-line is comical. They were not very good as was most of their defense and I think that they can't help be improved. That being said they score on everyone. I think they beat bee, tm, east, gp, calallen, and Plc....I guess I'm voting yes.
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Post by kramcat on Aug 5, 2013 22:00:23 GMT -6
After reading through the threads, I really haven't seen anything about Victoria West. What is everyone's opinion on the football program, and how do you think they will do this year and years to come? From what I had seen of East or West in 7 on 7 the skill guys need to hit the weight rooms, that's comparing them to Refugios guys. Refugio picked its team out of 100 total boys in the high school? West and East 1000 for each?
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Post by sandcrabs04 on Aug 5, 2013 22:05:42 GMT -6
After reading through the threads, I really haven't seen anything about Victoria West. What is everyone's opinion on the football program, and how do you think they will do this year and years to come? From what I had seen of East or West in 7 on 7 the skill guys need to hit the weight rooms, that's comparing them to Refugios guys. Refugio picked its team out of 100 total boys in the high school? West and East 1000 for each? Big bad refugio. I think yall will lose a regular season game this season
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Post by kramcat on Aug 5, 2013 22:28:33 GMT -6
From what I had seen of East or West in 7 on 7 the skill guys need to hit the weight rooms, that's comparing them to Refugios guys. Refugio picked its team out of 100 total boys in the high school? West and East 1000 for each? Big bad refugio. I think yall will lose a regular season game this season That could happen Lago Vista and Ingleside are loaded. Refugio has had its smallest numbers out for football ever at 75 out of maybe 100 guys total. Refugio will field 1 Jv this year.
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Post by sandcrabs04 on Aug 5, 2013 22:38:57 GMT -6
Big bad refugio. I think yall will lose a regular season game this season That could happen Lago Vista and Ingleside are loaded. Refugio has had its smallest numbers out for football ever at 75 out of maybe 100 guys total. Refugio will field 1 Jv this year. We got two of yalls. Nice additions
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Post by kramcat on Aug 6, 2013 6:33:24 GMT -6
That could happen Lago Vista and Ingleside are loaded. Refugio has had its smallest numbers out for football ever at 75 out of maybe 100 guys total. Refugio will field 1 Jv this year. We got two of yalls. Nice additions Those where nice additions for yall, those 2 brothers probably made every summer workout at PLC. Refugio is loaded at Qb, WR, and DB. If those 2 guys may of been starting lineman, it would of really hurt. Anytime you lose 2 guys that have 4.5 or 4.6 40 speed hurts. Refugio can win state without them, can PLC win state with them?
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Post by CC_Varmints on Aug 6, 2013 6:57:27 GMT -6
We got two of yalls. Nice additions Those where nice additions for yall, those 2 brothers probably made every summer workout at PLC. Refugio is loaded at Qb, WR, and DB. If those 2 guys may of been starting lineman, it would of really hurt. Anytime you lose 2 guys that have 4.5 or 4.6 40 speed hurts. Refugio can win state without them, can PLC win state with them?
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Post by FB fan on Aug 6, 2013 7:18:35 GMT -6
We got two of yalls. Nice additions Those where nice additions for yall, those 2 brothers probably made every summer workout at PLC. Refugio is loaded at Qb, WR, and DB. If those 2 guys may of been starting lineman, it would of really hurt. Anytime you lose 2 guys that have 4.5 or 4.6 40 speed hurts. Refugio can win state without them, can PLC win state with them? LOL. That is going to leave a mark.
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Post by sandcrabs04 on Aug 6, 2013 7:37:40 GMT -6
We got two of yalls. Nice additions Those where nice additions for yall, those 2 brothers probably made every summer workout at PLC. Refugio is loaded at Qb, WR, and DB. If those 2 guys may of been starting lineman, it would of really hurt. Anytime you lose 2 guys that have 4.5 or 4.6 40 speed hurts. Refugio can win state without them, can PLC win state with them? Just lilike yall did last season huh. With them?
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Post by sandcrabs04 on Aug 6, 2013 7:38:46 GMT -6
Either way they are gunna be in our secondary. And were glad to have them.
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Post by tigers on Aug 6, 2013 7:46:52 GMT -6
where are all the East fans of 2010? why are they not on here talking Ortega? The kid is good, do they have a supporting cast? is there defense this year? Probably the best supporting cast offensively since 2010 ... The big question is the D new coordinator lots of kids back, scrimmage Alice next week certainly a test
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Post by sandcrabs04 on Aug 6, 2013 8:15:45 GMT -6
The real irony if it all is EB didn t have to change who theyvwere to do it. They won it w the slot t.
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