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Post by Laredo_Sports on May 31, 2013 3:03:12 GMT -6
Cigarroa DT Rodriguez - Texas Lutheran Nixon DL Ramirez - San Jac
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Post by urbuddha on Jun 3, 2013 12:04:32 GMT -6
Even though the El Paso schools traditionally do not do well in the playoffs they have a fairly good amount of recruitment. It's easy to fly in and out of there so maybe there is something to the accessibility theory.
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Post by gpjohn on Jun 4, 2013 8:05:06 GMT -6
is Bisby getting any looks?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 9:17:59 GMT -6
Even though the El Paso schools traditionally do not do well in the playoffs they have a fairly good amount of recruitment. It's easy to fly in and out of there so maybe there is something to the accessibility theory. Southwest Airlines seems to make it a stop for a bunch of flights going cross country say from Florida to Los Angeles for example. Plus they have a huge military presence (Fort Bliss) only rivaled by the likes of Fort Hood and the air bases in San Antonio. And yea, being a city of over 500k has something to do with it as well as being the regional airport for that part of Texas and the southern part of New Mexico which includes Las Cruises (another college town) and the military presence in White Sands among areas helps too.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jun 4, 2013 10:36:34 GMT -6
It's the Heat! Kick their A** Spurs! Oops... I swear I posted that in the Spurs Playoff thread? ? In my best Troy Landry voice.......Whut da helll
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Post by FB fan on Jun 4, 2013 12:00:02 GMT -6
Oops... I swear I posted that in the Spurs Playoff thread? ? In my best Troy Landry voice.......Whut da helll Moved it for you.
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Post by Laredo_Sports on Jun 5, 2013 16:18:34 GMT -6
LRD Sportswire spots senior to be Cigarroa center at Baylor Camp.
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Post by Tom on Jun 6, 2013 12:15:51 GMT -6
Even though the El Paso schools traditionally do not do well in the playoffs they have a fairly good amount of recruitment. It's easy to fly in and out of there so maybe there is something to the accessibility theory. What also helps them is that they've got UTEP in the city. UTEP doesn't have to go far to take a look at the El Paso kids and will offer the ones they like. That's something the Valley doesn't have. OTOH, having Texas Tech in town doesn't seem to help Lubbock kids get recruited.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 14:14:04 GMT -6
Even though the El Paso schools traditionally do not do well in the playoffs they have a fairly good amount of recruitment. It's easy to fly in and out of there so maybe there is something to the accessibility theory. What also helps them is that they've got UTEP in the city. UTEP doesn't have to go far to take a look at the El Paso kids and will offer the ones they like. That's something the Valley doesn't have. OTOH, having Texas Tech in town doesn't seem to help Lubbock kids get recruited. On the UTEP spring roster, they only 10-15 El Paso kids listed and this roster might be combined roster with both returnees and squads men (ie practice squad). Other than that, it very much looks like a number of college football rosters here in Texas (other than UT and A&M) with kids from all over the state from large and small high schools, a number of JUCO recruits, and even a few west coast kids.
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Post by Tom on Jun 6, 2013 15:17:08 GMT -6
What also helps them is that they've got UTEP in the city. UTEP doesn't have to go far to take a look at the El Paso kids and will offer the ones they like. That's something the Valley doesn't have. OTOH, having Texas Tech in town doesn't seem to help Lubbock kids get recruited. On the UTEP spring roster, they only 10-15 El Paso kids listed and this roster might be combined roster with both returnees and squads men (ie practice squad). Other than that, it very much looks like a number of college football rosters here in Texas (other than UT and A&M) with kids from all over the state from large and small high schools, a number of JUCO recruits, and even a few west coast kids. According to Rivals, El Paso's had 14 players sign D-I from 2009-13. Who knows how many of those stuck on D-I rosters, but that's a decent number. Not really a surprise that UTEP would have some from the West Coast. It's actually about the same distance from L.A. as it is from Houston.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 7:43:06 GMT -6
On the UTEP spring roster, they only 10-15 El Paso kids listed and this roster might be combined roster with both returnees and squads men (ie practice squad). Other than that, it very much looks like a number of college football rosters here in Texas (other than UT and A&M) with kids from all over the state from large and small high schools, a number of JUCO recruits, and even a few west coast kids. According to Rivals, El Paso's had 14 players sign D-I from 2009-13. Who knows how many of those stuck on D-I rosters, but that's a decent number. Not really a surprise that UTEP would have some from the West Coast. It's actually about the same distance from L.A. as it is from Houston. When was the last time El Paso had a team make it real deep in the football playoffs? I know they've had some baseball teams make it pretty deep and to the 'ship, but in football as well as other sports, you don't hear much from any of the schools out there. You would figure with being the 5th largest city in the state and with a pretty diverse population (much more than the other border metros like Laredo and the RGV) , you would hear more from a school or two or three on the state level on a consistent basis. As far it producing a little more college talent vs the South Texas area, again I think it has more to do with their population being more diverse (thanks to Ft Bliss among other economic drivers) and it is easier for cross country recruiters to get in and out of. If a scout from the University of Houston for example is headed to California to recruit the JUCO market, El Paso is an easy stop via multiple airlines on the way to LAX. Corpus, the RGV and Laredo on the other hand have most of their flights connect in the Houston or DFW airports which means layovers and wasted time which is valuable even in this day of You Tuba and recruiting services that are out there by the dozens.
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Post by Laredo_Sports on Jun 7, 2013 9:13:03 GMT -6
Laredo is becoming more like El Paso, getting a lot of out of town folks. Difference from the RGV with Laredo and EP is that the RGV are multiple scattered towns, whereas Laredo and El Paso are one big city, so it is easier to correspond with needs or resources compared to the Valley. In the Valley, it is more political competing against another city in growth.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 13:06:14 GMT -6
Laredo is becoming more like El Paso, getting a lot of out of town folks. Difference from the RGV with Laredo and EP is that the RGV are multiple scattered towns, whereas Laredo and El Paso are one big city, so it is easier to correspond with needs or resources compared to the Valley. In the Valley, it is more political competing against another city in growth. Very true about the RGV at times. They almost lost their new Medical School thanks to the big boy cities down there wanting to claim it. The Friday night rivals crosses over to things it shouldn't.
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Post by Tom on Jun 7, 2013 15:03:57 GMT -6
According to Rivals, El Paso's had 14 players sign D-I from 2009-13. Who knows how many of those stuck on D-I rosters, but that's a decent number. Not really a surprise that UTEP would have some from the West Coast. It's actually about the same distance from L.A. as it is from Houston. When was the last time El Paso had a team make it real deep in the football playoffs? I know they've had some baseball teams make it pretty deep and to the 'ship, but in football as well as other sports, you don't hear much from any of the schools out there. You would figure with being the 5th largest city in the state and with a pretty diverse population (much more than the other border metros like Laredo and the RGV) , you would hear more from a school or two or three on the state level on a consistent basis. As far it producing a little more college talent vs the South Texas area, again I think it has more to do with their population being more diverse (thanks to Ft Bliss among other economic drivers) and it is easier for cross country recruiters to get in and out of. If a scout from the University of Houston for example is headed to California to recruit the JUCO market, El Paso is an easy stop via multiple airlines on the way to LAX. Corpus, the RGV and Laredo on the other hand have most of their flights connect in the Houston or DFW airports which means layovers and wasted time which is valuable even in this day of You Tuba and recruiting services that are out there by the dozens. I can't remember the last time an EP team made it deep in the playoffs. Heck, it's rare that they make it past the area round, though Burges did it this year -- I think their chances of making the regional round have improved with the 2012 realignment since they don't see any DFW teams before that. Burges kind of sums up El Paso, with a couple of legit D-I players on an otherwise mediocre team. It's not to say there aren't good players there, but the depth of talent isn't anywhere close to being as good. Also, EP being the fifth-largest city in the state is kind of misleading. There's almost no suburban population to speak of there, so the metro area population basically equals the city population, as opposed to San Antonio or especially DFW/Houston. DFW is the fourth-largest metro in the country, Houston is #5, San Antonio is #25, Austin is #35... El Paso is #67. The McAllen metro area is #70, Corpus is #115, Brownsville is #126. McAllen/Brownsville combined (the RGV) is considerably larger than El Paso. I think you make a good point about its location, but the perception is that there's very little talent in the RGV. Even if there's a kid down there who might be worth a look, he's probably the only kid you're looking at, so if he turns out not to be all that then you just wasted a trip. That's probably why having UTEP around is important for the El Paso kids: yeah, there might not be that many players to look at, but UTEP's not really having to go out of their way to check them out. And, yeah, it probably helps that you can make a stopover there on the way from LA to Dallas or Houston; why not go talk to some high school coaches and see if they've got any talent on hand?
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Post by Tom on Jun 7, 2013 15:07:34 GMT -6
Laredo is becoming more like El Paso, getting a lot of out of town folks. Difference from the RGV with Laredo and EP is that the RGV are multiple scattered towns, whereas Laredo and El Paso are one big city, so it is easier to correspond with needs or resources compared to the Valley. In the Valley, it is more political competing against another city in growth. That sounds about right. Strange that that doesn't happen elsewhere though; Dallas, Plano, Fort Worth, and Arlington aren't really competing with one another. I doubt too many people in Dallas are hurt that FC Dallas plays out in Frisco. I think the difference is that while the cities in the RGV are relatively close together, they still "feel" like separate cities. It's about 60 miles from Brownsville to McAllen/Edinburg, so if something goes up in McAllen, that's not going to help Brownsville at all (and will hurt if Brownsville was competing for the same thing.)
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