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Post by CC_Varmints on Oct 22, 2012 11:41:26 GMT -6
West ain't got that kinda offense. There is no way VW has the O to put up 28 points on Calallen. The only thing that has worked to expectation this year is our D. PLC & GP didn't do that combined, the D is only giving up 8.14 points per game. Calallen Defense is the real deal. It is the not ready for primetime players Offense that has decided the wins and losses. VW Offense might be good, but not good enough to squeak a win out against Calallen.
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Post by johnnyduval on Oct 22, 2012 13:19:38 GMT -6
There is no way VW has the O to put up 28 points on Calallen. The only thing that has worked to expectation this year is our D. PLC & GP didn't do that combined, the D is only giving up 8.14 points per game. Calallen Defense is the real deal. It is the not ready for primetime players Offense that has decided the wins and losses. VW Offense might be good, but not good enough to squeak a win out against Calallen. I would bet money that the VW offense isn't as good as ours and we basically put up 26 on Calallen if you consider the consecutive kneeling of the ball at the 1 at the end of the game. I give them 10 at the most in this one.
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Post by avert on Oct 22, 2012 14:39:18 GMT -6
That is an illogical statement...if your going by that Calallen put up 0 vs PLC. so i guess VW is then 21 pts better offensively than the cats? (actually 28 if you count the td that was called back). The question i think is Cal O vs VW D...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 14:54:28 GMT -6
West ain't got that kinda offense. There is no way VW has the O to put up 28 points on Calallen. The only thing that has worked to expectation this year is our D. PLC & GP didn't do that combined, the D is only giving up 8.14 points per game. I agree that West won't put up 28 points on Calallen.
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Post by johnnyduval on Oct 22, 2012 14:54:36 GMT -6
That is an illogical statement...if your going by that Calallen put up 0 vs PLC. so i guess VW is then 21 pts better offensively than the cats? (actually 28 if you count the td that was called back). The question i think is Cal O vs VW D... The Cats have the best D you will face so by no means will you score as much as you did vs. Calhoun. I've seen them both play and very few teams will score 28 points vs. Calallen. T-M scored 21 on PLC just like VW did...they only scored 14 on Calallen. T-M rocked VE 49-20, VW lost to VE letting them put up 54 points on them. I like Cal's chances in this one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 15:23:34 GMT -6
T-M only scored 7 on Calallen's D, one TD was a kickoff return.
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Post by Wwarrior on Oct 22, 2012 19:21:55 GMT -6
T-M only scored 7 on Calallen's D, one TD was a kickoff return.
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Post by Saki The Realist on Oct 22, 2012 19:48:13 GMT -6
Calallen has a great defense no doubt and they are excellent against the run. But how good are they against the pass is the true question, because I believe west has the qb and receivers to make this a game and maybe even score more than 20. #6 is a play maker for west, and one Calallen should account for at all times.
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Post by DD Booger on Oct 22, 2012 20:18:22 GMT -6
Calallen has a great defense no doubt and they are excellent against the run. But how good are they against the pass is the true question, because I believe west has the qb and receivers to make this a game and maybe even score more than 20. #6 is a play maker for west, and one Calallen should account for at all times. Great question and that is the problem with playing in our district and part of the region. Not too many teams tossing the ball around and doing it well. I think that isn't only our question, but one for most defenses coming out of 30/31-4A. FB will play a really good passing game in Ray.
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Post by avert on Oct 22, 2012 20:19:15 GMT -6
R u saying that because gp could only score 7 against them? If that is the case u better concentrate on tm because Vw scored more and gave up less to Plc than gp did! I do not doubt calallen has a good D, and I would suspect their o is a lot better than people give them credit for...we'll see how it turns out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 20:32:01 GMT -6
R u saying that because gp could only score 7 against them? If that is the case u better concentrate on tm because Vw scored more and gave up less to Plc than gp did! I do not doubt calallen has a good D, and I would suspect their o is a lot better than people give them credit for...we'll see how it turns out. No! I'm not saying that because we only scored 7 on Calallen. Calallen hasn't given up more than 19 points in any game this year. They gave up 19 to Flour Bluff & 17 to Calhoun. I believe both of these teams have better offenses than West does. Who cares what you did vs PLC? Y'all were lucky Williams got hurt when he did or y'all would have given up more than 500 yards rushing. Your run D is terrible and Calallen, T-M, & G-P will expose that when you play them, just like Lockhart and a not-at-full strength Calhoun did. Your D also gives up a ton of points! You better just worry about not going 0-3 to finish off your season. We'll take care of our own business.
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Post by calcat410 on Oct 23, 2012 6:23:25 GMT -6
Calallen has a great defense no doubt and they are excellent against the run. But how good are they against the pass is the true question, because I believe west has the qb and receivers to make this a game and maybe even score more than 20. #6 is a play maker for west, and one Calallen should account for at all times. On the way to the GP game, my brother in law called me to talk smack (his kids go to GP), he talked about the pass threat against Calallen. I'll tell you the same thing I told him, 'if you keep throwing the ball, our DB's will either put the open field hit on the reciever so he isn't so motivated to catch it next time, or they will figure our the routes and it WILL get picked off' Ask GP folk about getting passes picked off. Then we would rund 8-10 play to move 40 yards and give the ball back on a fumble, but that is off topick.
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Post by DD Booger on Oct 23, 2012 6:27:04 GMT -6
Calallen has a great defense no doubt and they are excellent against the run. But how good are they against the pass is the true question, because I believe west has the qb and receivers to make this a game and maybe even score more than 20. #6 is a play maker for west, and one Calallen should account for at all times. On the way to the GP game, my brother in law called me to talk smack (his kids go to GP), he talked about the pass threat against Calallen. I'll tell you the same thing I told him, 'if you keep throwing the ball, our DB's will either put the open field hit on the reciever so he isn't so motivated to catch it next time, or they will figure our the routes and it WILL get picked off' Ask GP folk about getting passes picked off. Then we would rund 8-10 play to move 40 yards and give the ball back on a fumble, but that is off topick. It's been a long time since we've had such an anemic offense this late into the season.
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Post by johnnyduval on Oct 23, 2012 7:45:44 GMT -6
R u saying that because gp could only score 7 against them? If that is the case u better concentrate on tm because Vw scored more and gave up less to Plc than gp did! I do not doubt calallen has a good D, and I would suspect their o is a lot better than people give them credit for...we'll see how it turns out. No! I'm not saying that because we only scored 7 on Calallen. Calallen hasn't given up more than 19 points in any game this year. They gave up 19 to Flour Bluff & 17 to Calhoun. I believe both of these teams have better offenses than West does. Who cares what you did vs PLC? Y'all were lucky Williams got hurt when he did or y'all would have given up more than 500 yards rushing. Your run D is terrible and Calallen, T-M, & G-P will expose that when you play them, just like Lockhart and a not-at-full strength Calhoun did. Your D also gives up a ton of points! You better just worry about not going 0-3 to finish off your season. We'll take care of our own business. We also took a knee at the half yard line to end the game. Those 19 and the last 6 we could have had were very hard earned points against that defense. Mims did have a 99 yarder called back, but our TE did tackle Trevor on the play...penalties have killed us more this year than ever.
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Post by unclebubba on Oct 23, 2012 8:19:49 GMT -6
west does have an elusive offense when they concentrate on getting the ball to #6 and #26 on screens, but still not enough firepower or offensive coordinator brains to get past cal d
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