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Post by FB fan on Jun 12, 2011 11:29:37 GMT -6
Wow. Hard to believe some of what I have just read. I do not and will not understand passing on the bunt until the Cal coach were to explain his reasoning which I don't expect. I am going to assume he had one and not that he is brain dead to pass on this text book situation. Why? Maybe because he has a pretty good record to stand on and he didn't compile it by making bone head decisions. Second question of why not start Mathisen in the title game. Maybe what happened to JJ had a lot to do with that decision, maybe he felt loyalty to the player whose turn it was in the rotation and faith he could get it done. Again, no one else outside of the staff knows those reasons. Congrats to the players and coaches on a great season, save a couple of very very good plays by WFR no one would be having this discussion.
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Post by calcatcrazzy on Jun 12, 2011 12:00:18 GMT -6
Wow. Hard to believe some of what I have just read. I do not and will not understand passing on the bunt until the Cal coach were to explain his reasoning which I don't expect. I am going to assume he had one and not that he is brain dead to pass on this text book situation. Why? Maybe because he has a pretty good record to stand on and he didn't compile it by making bone head decisions. Second question of why not start Mathisen in the title game. Maybe what happened to JJ had a lot to do with that decision, maybe he felt loyalty to the player whose turn it was in the rotation and faith he could get it done. Again, no one else outside of the staff knows those reasons. Congrats to the players and coaches on a great season, save a couple of very very good plays by WFR no one would be having this discussion. And I agree totally with fbf?? Now that's sumpin. LOL! I for one am proud of our coaches and their work. Love them Cats!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2011 13:24:16 GMT -6
OK..... Calallen 93, a reality check is needed for you!
So you want to throw the coaching staff under the bus for both the football and baseball programs. The coaches who built two great programs with name recognition in the state and with the baseball program, THE NATION just because in your eyes they choke in the championships or the semis in football.
I went to high school who from the 40's to the early 80's was a football powerhouse in our area. It always had to do with the quality of coaches and who they passed the torch to when they left. When the coach left in 1983, the school board somehow picked a coach that had no concept on how to win other than he was a big star in his day at Texas A&M and in his high school days. We went nine fricken years without making the playoffs for which four of those were my high school years and four were losing seasons. You know how bad it sucks to see your school's playoff history and see all the appearences before you and a good number after you (yes they got rid of the coach my Junior year, but too late to rebuild for us). You know how bad it sucked to hear from people who won before you that your time will come when you were cheering them on to when your time did come, you sucked. The hell workouts we were going to endure never came, etc. Well dude you got a program in place here in Calallen where if the right cards are played , there will possibily never be a dead period like the one I endured unless people with your thinking polllute the waters.
Get a grip, man.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2011 13:30:52 GMT -6
Chap did what he and the other coaches thought would give us the best chance at winning. As hard as this is to fathom for some fans, we do run into other teams that are at the same level of play as us. On Friday night I watched the Calallen TEAM get into an early hole, and then the TEAM tried to battle out of that hole. I'm not sure who on here was at the game, but I can tell you that WF TEAM made 2 huge plays that if not made would have resulted in Calallen runs. I'm not saying this would have caused us to win the game, but it would have changed 2 innings of play. We had our chances, but we failed to cash those into runs, and at times this was a direct result of the play of the other team on the field. We lost on Friday, but this TEAM will always be winners in my book, as I know each and everyone of them went out and gave 110%. Anybody that questions the Coaches play calling and his desire to win is entitled to their misinformed opinion. I have no dog in this fight other than being a Calallen fan, I do not know Chap nor do I have a son that plays baseball. With that said, Congrats to the entire Calallen team on another great season.......... Yep, the shortstop made a play of the year quality catch where from vantage point I thoughy it looked like it rolled out of his glove, but it was his sweatband around his wrist . The left fielder made a heck of a catch too. Right there would have been four runs and maybe more. Nothing Chappy or any other baseball coach in the world can do once the ball is put in the air by the bat. It's up the opposing player to make the play.
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Post by calallen93 on Jun 12, 2011 13:32:04 GMT -6
I'm beginning to wonder if your user name is just a disguise?? I doubt very seriously you are from Calallen or are a real Calallen fan. It's Sunday, not much going on, I'll play your game for awhile.... 1. You blantly ignored my question earlier..."First, tell me this....how many chances do you think Calallen would have to "be out coached"(at the championship level) if we did not have either one as a coach and someone else was there?".... 2. WHO do you have in mind to replace either one? Answer these and we will continue the debate. For baseball I will take Chapman's old college roommate from Mary Hardin Baylor...when he has the talent he wins State. For football I would like Hal Wasson from Southlake Carroll keeping in mind the good coaches move on to bigger and better things. Just don't get me started on Danaher playing his boys more than they deserve like a pop Warner coach. For the record i do not expect a title every year, but when we have the best team in the state and lose it to coaching then yes I get frustrated.
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Post by calallen93 on Jun 12, 2011 13:36:38 GMT -6
Very proud of the boys they played with heart and did their best. Now Chapman on the other hand pulled a Danaher. Should we call him Phil Chapman or Steve Danaher? Either way in Calallen fashion we were out coached when the title was on the line. Usually it is Phil that gets out coached, but it looks like Chapman has been hanging around him too much. These two coaches do not deserve the talented palyers they have on their teams...Poor coaching has cost Calallen way too many State titles...mostly football but baseball as well. So, Chapman left all those runners stranded and gave up 6 in the 1st 2 innings??? WTF Actually it was....he is the bonehead that started the #3pitcher in the title game...my thoughts exactly WTF
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Post by Calallenbaseball on Jun 12, 2011 13:37:47 GMT -6
93 I don't know anyone that loves the game with a passion bigger than mine for baseball. Not going to lie I too said why not Mathisen, but that as far as i went with it. I respect the game and my coaches. I know this site is for your own opinions and you have the right to speak, so here are mine. You have no clue about the game and you have no respect for it. I wish I could tell you what I really want but I have taught my son to respect the game and his coaches and the game will reward you. (So I'll keep my mouth shut.) WELL NOW THE HIGH SCHOOL SEASON IS OVER FOR ME I'LL LAY LOW AND RETURN NEXT YEAR WITH EVEN A BIGGER PASSION FOR THE GAME AS ANOTHER QUEST FOR THE 2012 STATE RUN WILL GO THUR CALALLEN BASEBALL HEY 25 VERY PROUD OF YOU ON YOUR SELECTION OF 2011 TEXAS STATE ALL TOURNAMENT TEAM. WAY TO GO SON.
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Post by calallen93 on Jun 12, 2011 14:03:34 GMT -6
Also I do agree Chapman and Danaher are decent coaches, my only point is when they get to the big game they are both incapable of coaching outside there comfort zone. Which IMO that is what it takes to bring home the title. Yes Chapman has won 3 but he has lost WAY more title games then he has won, and we all know how many titles Danaher has won...
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Post by calallen93 on Jun 12, 2011 14:43:42 GMT -6
C5_96 is that the year you graduated from Calallen? Is so, I probably game you a wedgie in high school...maybe that explains your love affair with Ol Chappy...he must have protected you...
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Post by calallen93 on Jun 12, 2011 14:49:17 GMT -6
Can one of you Chapman bobble heads in here give me 3 examples of Chapman coaching outside his comfort zone in Round Rock? My point is if you try to long ball your opponents at Dell Diamond you end up under performing... Now you seriously can not agree that intelligently. I guess you could flip the switch on the bobble head and say "Chapman knows what he is doing" I on the other hand choose to call a spade a spade.
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Post by 2fast4u on Jun 12, 2011 15:06:40 GMT -6
#3 pitcher had the fresh arm and if you had been following all season long, then you would know the#3 pitcher played a huge roll in getting us to the final.
This is my take: You would have complained about the coaching no matter who started the final game if we lost. If we threw the #1, then you would have complained he was tired from the night before. If he went with the #2, then you would have complained he pitched 6 innings the night before. Let me ask you this. Just how many State title rings do you have?
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Post by FB fan on Jun 12, 2011 15:17:13 GMT -6
Chap did what he and the other coaches thought would give us the best chance at winning. As hard as this is to fathom for some fans, we do run into other teams that are at the same level of play as us. On Friday night I watched the Calallen TEAM get into an early hole, and then the TEAM tried to battle out of that hole. I'm not sure who on here was at the game, but I can tell you that WF TEAM made 2 huge plays that if not made would have resulted in Calallen runs. I'm not saying this would have caused us to win the game, but it would have changed 2 innings of play. We had our chances, but we failed to cash those into runs, and at times this was a direct result of the play of the other team on the field. We lost on Friday, but this TEAM will always be winners in my book, as I know each and everyone of them went out and gave 110%. Anybody that questions the Coaches play calling and his desire to win is entitled to their misinformed opinion. I have no dog in this fight other than being a Calallen fan, I do not know Chap nor do I have a son that plays baseball. With that said, Congrats to the entire Calallen team on another great season.......... Yep, the shortstop made a play of the year quality catch where from vantage point I thoughy it looked like it rolled out of his glove, but it was his sweatband around his wrist . The left fielder made a heck of a catch too. Right there would have been four runs and maybe more. Nothing Chappy or any other baseball coach in the world can do once the ball is put in the air by the bat. It's up the opposing player to make the play. I watched it on the webcast and got to see close up slow mo replays. Both the SS and OF were clean catches for sure. Sports Center highlights plays.
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Post by calallen93 on Jun 12, 2011 15:24:30 GMT -6
2fast do you really think you have to have a state ring to watch and critique coaching? If so we have millionaire sports announcers that should be fired tmw. If you want to join this conversation please bring something to the table.
I believe Chapman screwed up when he did not put Mathisan in while we had the lead against Poteet. Therefore, causing him to pitch those 6 innings. Also, seems funny how no other 4/5A coach started there #3 pitcher in the STATE championship. Also I did follow them every game in the playoffs. For the majority of Hill's starts he had run support and the threat of the long ball. Something we did not have at Dell Diamond.....next bobble head
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Post by C5_96 on Jun 12, 2011 15:43:13 GMT -6
C5_96 is that the year you graduated from Calallen? Is so, I probably game you a wedgie in high school...maybe that explains your love affair with Ol Chappy...he must have protected you... No, I graduated in 97. But I seriously doubt you'd have been capable of doing such a thing back then, and most certainly not now. I don't think the coaches are infallible - they're human after all. It's just sad that some don't appreciate what they've done. I'm certain that their greatest talent has to be their ability to shrug off ingrates and continue to contribute to the success of the program rather than running off for greener pastures. Any school in the state would hire them in a heart beat. Then again, Calallen could then hire you and win state every year in both sports!
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Post by calallen93 on Jun 12, 2011 16:04:25 GMT -6
Yea you definitely sound like some one that was part of the wedgie cycle. 97 means you were a fresh fish my senior year...for sure. Like I said they are both decent coaches, but they choke when it counts. I will agree if a school is trying to build a program both of our coaches would be a fantastic hire, but most every school with a winning tradition would pass. Since they do jot have what it takes when the title is on the line...
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