gp37
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Post by gp37 on May 5, 2012 20:28:49 GMT -6
Usually a 4A team will have 4 athletes and the rest are marginal athletes and a 3A will have 3 athletes and 3 marginal athletes and so on down. It seems GP and FB are getting 3 Athletes and Calallen is getting 4 or 5. The year GP beat FB in the playoffs, FB had the better athletes but FB was over confident. FB woke up in the 4th quarter but it was to late. GP got embarrassed the next week by New Braunfuls Canyon. I am pulling for Coach Danaher to win a state title before he retires but there is something missing in his makeup and that is common in a lot of good coaches. He may have learned something from the Coach at Refugio and will keep the throttle pulled all the way back in every game and go all the way.
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Post by DD Booger on May 5, 2012 23:11:33 GMT -6
Usually a 4A team will have 4 athletes and the rest are marginal athletes and a 3A will have 3 athletes and 3 marginal athletes and so on down. It seems GP and FB are getting 3 Athletes and Calallen is getting 4 or 5. The year GP beat FB in the playoffs, FB had the better athletes but FB was over confident. FB woke up in the 4th quarter but it was to late. GP got embarrassed the next week by New Braunfuls Canyon. I am pulling for Coach Danaher to win a state title before he retires but there is something missing in his makeup and that is common in a lot of good coaches. He may have learned something from the Coach at Refugio and will keep the throttle pulled all the way back in every game and go all the way. Hey gp37, glad you moseyed on over here. Looking forward to your input.
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Post by sandcrabs04 on May 5, 2012 23:47:26 GMT -6
Im gonna pose a question for yall,with all.this talk of who is the best coach amd this amd that.
Could you take Andrus,put him at Calallen,what kinda results would he get?.typical Calallen results,or FB type seasons?
If.you put Danaher at FB,.same question,what results do yall forsee?
someone was once quoted as saying "bear bryant will take his and beat yours,them turn around ,take yours amd beat his"
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Post by catfromwayback on May 6, 2012 6:39:05 GMT -6
Im gonna pose a question for yall,with all.this talk of who is the best coach amd this amd that. Could you take Andrus,put him at Calallen,what kinda results would he get?.typical Calallen results,or FB type seasons? If.you put Danaher at FB,.same question,what results do yall forsee? someone was once quoted as saying "bear bryant will take his and beat yours,them turn around ,take yours amd beat his" I think it would take the whole staff to move and then it would still take 2-3 years before the kids got used to the system. Once that happened, I think FB would beat Calallen consistently.
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Post by gpking on May 6, 2012 9:18:51 GMT -6
This is Anastatios only 1.5 years, so no expectations can be perdicted this year. If Dana her gets 2-3 years then so does our coach
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Post by FB fan on May 6, 2012 12:29:44 GMT -6
Im gonna pose a question for yall,with all.this talk of who is the best coach amd this amd that. Could you take Andrus,put him at Calallen,what kinda results would he get?.typical Calallen results,or FB type seasons? If.you put Danaher at FB,.same question,what results do yall forsee? someone was once quoted as saying "bear bryant will take his and beat yours,them turn around ,take yours amd beat his" That was Bum Phillips and he said the same thing about Tom Landry. As far as comparing Danaher and Andrus. Apples and oranges for now. One has many more years experience and has had years with a staff and to build a "down line" of talent supply. This will be the eighth season for Andrus as HC so it is fair to expect a well trained team that gets the best out of the talent it has.
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Post by OCCNH on May 6, 2012 16:52:03 GMT -6
Im gonna pose a question for yall,with all.this talk of who is the best coach amd this amd that. Could you take Andrus,put him at Calallen,what kinda results would he get?.typical Calallen results,or FB type seasons? If.you put Danaher at FB,.same question,what results do yall forsee? someone was once quoted as saying "bear bryant will take his and beat yours,them turn around ,take yours amd beat his" I think it would take the whole staff to move and then it would still take 2-3 years before the kids got used to the system. Once that happened, I think FB would beat Calallen consistently. I watched Danaher in the early years. Andrus has some of the same things going for him D did. Cliburn and Campbell are like having two extra head coaches. Andrus had one like that but left for greener pastures. Opinions vary but I think he needs that DC that can put the heat on spread QB's and a young Def. Backfield coach that played that spot in college.
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Post by DD Booger on May 6, 2012 18:15:06 GMT -6
I think it would take the whole staff to move and then it would still take 2-3 years before the kids got used to the system. Once that happened, I think FB would beat Calallen consistently. I watched Danaher in the early years. Andrus has some of the same things going for him D did. Cliburn and Campbell are like having two extra head coaches. Andrus had one like that but left for greener pastures. Opinions vary but I think he needs that DC that can put the heat on spread QB's and a young Def. Backfield coach that played that spot in college. I'd like to see FB in some spread formations with your QB. And yes, D has benefited from some great assistants. That's a HUGE advantage.
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Post by johnnyduval on May 6, 2012 18:23:56 GMT -6
Usually a 4A team will have 4 athletes and the rest are marginal athletes and a 3A will have 3 athletes and 3 marginal athletes and so on down. It seems GP and FB are getting 3 Athletes and Calallen is getting 4 or 5. The year GP beat FB in the playoffs, FB had the better athletes but FB was over confident. FB woke up in the 4th quarter but it was to late. GP got embarrassed the next week by New Braunfuls Canyon. I am pulling for Coach Danaher to win a state title before he retires but there is something missing in his makeup and that is common in a lot of good coaches. He may have learned something from the Coach at Refugio and will keep the throttle pulled all the way back in every game and go all the way. I didn't know this was a set formula for the number of athletes. Thanks for the info!
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Post by johnnyduval on May 7, 2012 5:36:51 GMT -6
I watched Danaher in the early years. Andrus has some of the same things going for him D did. Cliburn and Campbell are like having two extra head coaches. Andrus had one like that but left for greener pastures. Opinions vary but I think he needs that DC that can put the heat on spread QB's and a young Def. Backfield coach that played that spot in college. I'd like to see FB in some spread formations with your QB. And yes, D has benefited from some great assistants. That's a HUGE advantage. I would like to see that as well Boog. We have some and have run some, but we don't do it all series long like Danaher does. If we can get the DB's to commit deep, I like Mim's chances dodging the DE's and outrunning the LB's on a designed scramble. I would use that to open up the passing lanes after it has been successful a couple of times.
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Post by C5_96 on May 7, 2012 9:42:47 GMT -6
Usually a 4A team will have 4 athletes and the rest are marginal athletes and a 3A will have 3 athletes and 3 marginal athletes and so on down. It seems GP and FB are getting 3 Athletes and Calallen is getting 4 or 5. The year GP beat FB in the playoffs, FB had the better athletes but FB was over confident. FB woke up in the 4th quarter but it was to late. GP got embarrassed the next week by New Braunfuls Canyon. I am pulling for Coach Danaher to win a state title before he retires but there is something missing in his makeup and that is common in a lot of good coaches. He may have learned something from the Coach at Refugio and will keep the throttle pulled all the way back in every game and go all the way. I didn't know this was a set formula for the number of athletes. Thanks for the info! lol
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Post by Coyote Pack Attack on May 7, 2012 10:02:03 GMT -6
It's about coaching as well. Danaher and his STAFF are good. Dam good. Van Tom Whatley never beat him and I think VTW was the best coach in Alice since L. G. Henderson. You can argue Bush, but like Danaher, VTW and his staff knew their kids so well, they knew their strengths and weaknesses. I remember VT rotating 3 qb's at 1 point right befor and during the playoffs. #1. could pass but was limited at running because of an injury. #2 could run and never passed and got his ass chewd out if he did. and #3 the other could run and pass better than #2. Point being it worked cuz he knew what he had to work with, limitations is reality, expectations are fantasies. You can bet back then VTW didnt care if you were the city managers son, if you were 2nd to another, guess what your #2. As long as you have kids in the right place, coach them technique and game situation, if they play it, like ITS TAUGHT to them and they execute, then they can beat talent. Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard... so yeah good coaching in Cryallen..
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Post by johnnyduval on May 7, 2012 10:18:26 GMT -6
"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard..."
- CPA
...bravo my friend...bravo....the best I've heard...
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Post by FB fan on May 7, 2012 11:00:41 GMT -6
It's about coaching as well. Danaher and his STAFF are good. Dam good. Van Tom Whatley never beat him and I think VTW was the best coach in Alice since L. G. Henderson. You can argue Bush, but like Danaher, VTW and his staff knew their kids so well, they knew their strengths and weaknesses. I remember VT rotating 3 qb's at 1 point right befor and during the playoffs. #1. could pass but was limited at running because of an injury. #2 could run and never passed and got his ass chewd out if he did. and #3 the other could run and pass better than #2. Point being it worked cuz he knew what he had to work with, limitations is reality, expectations are fantasies. You can bet back then VTW didnt care if you were the city managers son, if you were 2nd to another, guess what your #2. As long as you have kids in the right place, coach them technique and game situation, if they play it, like ITS TAUGHT to them and they execute, then they can beat talent. Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard... so yeah good coaching in Cryallen.. So, if someones parents come beat on your desk you dont HAVE to start them at QB? Wow, who knew?
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Post by Coyote Pack Attack on May 8, 2012 13:51:40 GMT -6
It's about coaching as well. Danaher and his STAFF are good. Dam good. Van Tom Whatley never beat him and I think VTW was the best coach in Alice since L. G. Henderson. You can argue Bush, but like Danaher, VTW and his staff knew their kids so well, they knew their strengths and weaknesses. I remember VT rotating 3 qb's at 1 point right befor and during the playoffs. #1. could pass but was limited at running because of an injury. #2 could run and never passed and got his ass chewd out if he did. and #3 the other could run and pass better than #2. Point being it worked cuz he knew what he had to work with, limitations is reality, expectations are fantasies. You can bet back then VTW didnt care if you were the city managers son, if you were 2nd to another, guess what your #2. As long as you have kids in the right place, coach them technique and game situation, if they play it, like ITS TAUGHT to them and they execute, then they can beat talent. Hard work beats talent, when talent doesnt work hard... so yeah good coaching in Cryallen.. So, if someones parents come beat on your desk you dont HAVE to start them at QB? Wow, who knew? Point is unfourtanetly there are coaches who get influenced or forced to make decisions like that.. Anyway Danaher > Andrus.... but I think it has alot to do with coaching staff at the Jr. high ranks. True story...as some of you know I coach Traveling Summer Basketball as a hobby.. Had a kid in 8th grade raw talent.. In school they had him playing the 5 or post, whatever you will call it. Over the summer I developed him into a pg. He had great skills. 9th grade year..post? in school.. Summer going into 10th grade we won 2 tourny, and finished no less than 3rd in the rest with him at point and the area's best 3 pointer moved to sg who was a jr at the time. Kid didnt get recognized till Coach Beltran saw him and knew where to put him..at guard.. not post like the jr high coaches did... So why some of us can pretend our feeder program coaches know whats going on and our Varsity coaches evaluate those kids closley, that's not the case... JMO
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