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Post by chiller15 on Apr 12, 2024 15:10:11 GMT -6
To those who do not understand the history of the Victoria school system for decades and why they adopted the current system might want to research Victorias history to get a better understanding. Being born and raised just north of Victoria in a small town with a 2A school system, we considered the Victoria schools as huge schools and both schools Victoria high and Stroman couldn’t be more different. Victoria high was basically the more effluent rich school with a separate ISD with their own budget. Stroman ISD wasn’t as effluent , with a primarily minority enrollment in that school. Back in the late 70 and early 80”s and I’m trying not to talk politics, certain people in Victoria and the state of Texas, pressured both ISD”s into one unified huge school into Victoria Memorial. In effect over night they created a Cluster Yuck of the decade. School records, traditions and school boundaries overnight got destroyed. Both schools conjoined and went from two solid 4A programs into basically a totally unprepared 6A school who got destroyed in basically every sport. Two proud football programs got destroyed overnight all in the name of Unity by some seriously misguided people. Victoria Memorial high school was created and both schools were forced to conjoin and that went over just as bad as expected. On day one a gang war happened at the high school and Victoria police had to live in the high school for months.sports teams disbanded and refused to play together. It was a total disaster created by uninformed people trying to force their will on people who didn’t want that to happen. After a decade of a destroyed school system, they went back to a new/old system with Victoria East & West almost split on the old boundaries as before. Today Victoria ISD uses the AD position to prevent one School from becoming more effluent than the other school in sports. bluecat, although the point you are trying to make is accurate, there are a few things inaccurate here: Both Stroman and Victoria High(both 5A) were under Visd. I think the hierarchy structure was a little different as I believe Weddell was the Athletic director and hfc at VHS. It has been stated before that VHS was more affluent than Stroman. It is difficult for me to personally understand this...... The family I grew up in was middle/lower class. We were pitching pennies man..... As well as my friend's families. Most of the dudes I played football and baseball with were not affluent. I will say this, the parents and VHS community cared about the kids and athletics at Victoria High. There was pride and tradition. The things we had at VHS were not given to us by VISD, it was either the parents getting out there on the weekends and fixing up the baseball practice field or them raising money for the booster club. Were there rich kids at VHS, yup, but they had rich kids at Stroman as well. I use to date one of the Stroman cheerleaders and her parents were loaded lol.......
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 12, 2024 17:06:05 GMT -6
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 12, 2024 18:10:05 GMT -6
It's perfectly natural to be disappointed that Charlie Reeve is leaving Victoria East to become the athletic director and head football coach at Calallen. But there's no reason to be angry at Reeve for making the move.
Reeve, 42, did not go out seeking another coaching job, but he couldn't turn down the opportunity to become the first person in 40 years from outside the Calallen district to take over one of the state's most successful programs.
"When you look at it from a career aspect of what your ideal job would look like, it kind of checked all the boxes," Reeve said of his decision. "I just didn't think it would be a year after I got here. There are a handful of premier programs around the state and those don't come open very often. To me, that was the biggest thing." Reeve graduated from Victoria High, where his father, Mark, coached, and his broth er, Travis, played. Charlie Reeve's only connection to Calallen was he once recruited a player from the school while he was an assistant coach at UTSA.
But Reeve is well aware of the success Calallen has had in not just football, but the entire program. "I've always kind of watched them from afar and they've always had good kids," Reeve said. "I think it's a lot like Cuero and El Campo in a sense there's an ingrained expectation there. You either have it or you're trying to build it. It's a lot easier to be in a place that has tradition and expectations."
In his one season as head football coach at East, Reeve raised expectations for the program. The Titans finished second in District 14-5A, Division I and earned a home playoff game, defeated rival Victoria West, and won a playoff game for the first time since 2016, before finishing at 8-4, with all its losses coming to playoff teams.
There is likely some speculation that the recent realignment, which sent East into a more competitive district, factored into Reeve's decision. But Reeve insisted that wasn't the case. "The determining factor was, I didn't necessarily pursue this thing," he said, "The only reason I even en- tertained it was because it's Calallen. I wasn't necessarily looking to leave."
VISD athletic director Spencer Gantt has no regrets, nor should he, about his decision to recommend him for the job. "I love that kid," Gantt said of Reeve. "I'm glad I was the first one to give him the opportunity to be a head coach."
Reeve gave East fans a glimpse into what is possible with the program with a group of talented incoming juniors led by quarterback Kason Kolle, the Advocate's newcomer of the year.
Reeve will be leaving, but Gantt has a plan in mind for hiring the next coach at East, and he will move quickly giv en the timing of Reeve's exit. The next head coach will be East's fourth, and third in three years. Those sorry to see Reeve leave should be asking what needs to be done to attract top-flight coaches and make them want to stay. Obviously, coaches want to be well-compensated for their efforts. But their main objective is to be somewhere where they can win on a consistent basis. To make VISD a more desirable destination, upgrades are needed in the facilities at both campuses, and improve- ments have to be made at Memorial Stadium.
Forman can be reached at
mforman@vicad.com. Follow him on Twitter at @mikefor- man21.
MIKE FORMAN ON SPORTS
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Post by gpking on Apr 12, 2024 19:10:29 GMT -6
Now GP schedule goes from Campbell at Calallen and 2nd year Reeve at East. To 1st year Reeve at Calallen and ? at East. Easts District schedule is down right nasty next year. I dont blame him leaving cause Calallens district schedule is a cream puff compared to Easts. Playing Valley View zapata and hildalgo is a way better chance for a win over Pieper and Boerne.
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Post by picodegallo on Apr 12, 2024 20:03:20 GMT -6
Now GP schedule goes from Campbell at Calallen and 2nd year Reeve at East. To 1st year Reeve at Calallen and ? at East. Easts District schedule is down right nasty next year. I dont blame him leaving cause Calallens district schedule is a cream puff compared to Easts. Playing Porter and hildalgo is a way better chance for a win over Pieper and Boerne. Clown car stopped dropped off King on his head. We don’t play Porter. Now you on the other played Porter the last two seasons. And still can only beat valley teams in the playoffs.
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Post by gpking on Apr 12, 2024 20:36:43 GMT -6
Now GP schedule goes from Campbell at Calallen and 2nd year Reeve at East. To 1st year Reeve at Calallen and ? at East. Easts District schedule is down right nasty next year. I dont blame him leaving cause Calallens district schedule is a cream puff compared to Easts. Playing Porter and hildalgo is a way better chance for a win over Pieper and Boerne. Clown car stopped dropped off King on his head. We don’t play Porter. Now you on the other played Porter the last two seasons. And still can only beat valley teams in the playoffs. There I fixed it. Valley View has the Blue turf field. Kind of like your scrotum color.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 13, 2024 8:28:45 GMT -6
Now GP schedule goes from Campbell at Calallen and 2nd year Reeve at East. To 1st year Reeve at Calallen and ? at East. Easts District schedule is down right nasty next year. I dont blame him leaving cause Calallens district schedule is a cream puff compared to Easts. Playing Valley View zapata and hildalgo is a way better chance for a win over Pieper and Boerne. If East can survive that District and get into the playoffs they can breathe a little bit. If Calallen wins District they could possibly get knocked out the first round. Reeve did not take that position to just win District. He has bigger fish to fry .. ..
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Post by tx20 on Apr 13, 2024 10:07:52 GMT -6
Now GP schedule goes from Campbell at Calallen and 2nd year Reeve at East. To 1st year Reeve at Calallen and ? at East. Easts District schedule is down right nasty next year. I dont blame him leaving cause Calallens district schedule is a cream puff compared to Easts. Playing Valley View zapata and hildalgo is a way better chance for a win over Pieper and Boerne. If East can survive that District and get into the playoffs they can breathe a little bit. If Calallen wins District they could possibly get knocked out the first round. Reeve did not take that position to just win District. He has bigger fish to fry .. .. That goes for every Texas High School coach and more. Without a doubt. In respect to football. We are all fortunate we play in South Texas. It get tough when go north.
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Post by bluecat on Apr 13, 2024 14:45:50 GMT -6
If East can survive that District and get into the playoffs they can breathe a little bit. If Calallen wins District they could possibly get knocked out the first round. Reeve did not take that position to just win District. He has bigger fish to fry .. .. That goes for every Texas High School coach and more. Without a doubt. In respect to football. We are all fortunate we play in South Texas. It get tough when go north. Iron sharpens iron, you don’t improve by playing weak teams. That tough district will much better prepare those teams for the playoffs. GP”s district isn’t much better, Miller and maybe Carroll will give them a decent game. There’s no doubt Miller is the team to beat and with the weapons they have and a solid passing game it won’t be easy. Need to load up with good ND teams to start the season and get better each week. Lots of holes to fill and spring training starts very soon.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 13, 2024 15:27:04 GMT -6
That goes for every Texas High School coach and more. Without a doubt. In respect to football. We are all fortunate we play in South Texas. It get tough when go north. Iron sharpens iron, you don’t improve by playing weak teams. That tough district will much better prepare those teams for the playoffs. GP”s district isn’t much better, Miller and maybe Carroll will give them a decent game. There’s no doubt Miller is the team to beat and with the weapons they have and a solid passing game it won’t be easy. Need to load up with good ND teams to start the season and get better each week. Lots of holes to fill and spring training starts very soon. I've probably said it before, but I wish they would have stuck Victoria West and Alice in that District. I think that would have been pretty fun!
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Post by bluecat on Apr 13, 2024 15:42:59 GMT -6
Iron sharpens iron, you don’t improve by playing weak teams. That tough district will much better prepare those teams for the playoffs. GP”s district isn’t much better, Miller and maybe Carroll will give them a decent game. There’s no doubt Miller is the team to beat and with the weapons they have and a solid passing game it won’t be easy. Need to load up with good ND teams to start the season and get better each week. Lots of holes to fill and spring training starts very soon. I've probably said it before, but I wish they would have stuck Victoria West and Alice in that District. I think that would have been pretty fun! Yes I was very surprised they didn’t , but as usual the UIL always seems to have other plans.
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Post by Cochino on Apr 13, 2024 16:10:58 GMT -6
Can't the names of the 2 Victoria Schools be changed back to High and Stroman? I know it seems small but it could maybe create some excitement from the community again to be more supportive.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 13, 2024 16:55:31 GMT -6
Can't the names of the 2 Victoria Schools be changed back to High and Stroman? I know it seems small but it could maybe create some excitement from the community again to be more supportive. I agree! Unfortunately I don't think that would ever happen. But maybe at least bring back their Mascots. Vic East Stingarees and Vic West Raiders. That might get people pumped up and should not ruffle too many feathers.
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Post by BandidoNB on Apr 14, 2024 12:07:55 GMT -6
Can't the names of the 2 Victoria Schools be changed back to High and Stroman? I know it seems small but it could maybe create some excitement from the community again to be more supportive. I doubt it, because there will be an expectation to have the same attendance zones, and that’s not possible with the mandates that forced the original consolidation into Victoria Memorial. Victoria HS zones that would now have to attend Stroman HS would throw a fit.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 14, 2024 15:11:29 GMT -6
Can't the names of the 2 Victoria Schools be changed back to High and Stroman? I know it seems small but it could maybe create some excitement from the community again to be more supportive. I doubt it, because there will be an expectation to have the same attendance zones, and that’s not possible with the mandates that forced the original consolidation into Victoria Memorial. Victoria HS zones that would now have to attend Stroman HS would throw a fit. And vice versa! I know some Stroman folk that would vomit if they had to claim Victoria High lol...
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