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Post by flowtowntigers on Apr 30, 2022 5:23:56 GMT -6
People mocking Baylor with jokes... meanwhile still in round 3 they've had like 5 guys drafted already. It's not mocking Baylor. Its a shot at tu that Baylor with maybe 1/3 the budget, resources and football tradition has surpassed the horns.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 8:20:47 GMT -6
People mocking Baylor with jokes... meanwhile still in round 3 they've had like 5 guys drafted already. It's not mocking Baylor. Its a shot at tu that Baylor with maybe 1/3 the budget, resources and football tradition has surpassed the horns. They've surpassed your aGgiEs as well then with 1/3 the budget.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 8:24:09 GMT -6
Most ridiculous cherry pick job ever. Why don't you cherry pick how many teams they scored more on than their season averages. Anyone can cherry pick. Am I lying when I say the whole "defense wins championships" mantra was started in an era where everyone scored next to nothing because everyone was running clock killing run based offenses. That's not my opinion. That happened. These teams you just cherry picked also had great offenses. You left that out. How is that cherry picking? He just gave you the stats over the last 5 years and those are facts. It's up to you now to provide the facts to disprove it. In your earlier post you said Bama carried the SEC. In the last 5 years the SEC has won 4 of the 5 national titles with 3 different teams and that wasn't done with the ESPN conspiracy factor you claim. They did it in the playoff system. Disprove his point with facts instead of your opinions. I'll wait. I proved my point. Those teams also had great OFFENSES. That's why only focusing on the D numbers is cherry picking. I also made the point about the different SEC teams winning a title. They have their couple of good years then go back to garbage but because they had a couple of good years you guys get to name drop them like if they're Alabama consistent. They're not. Look at LSU already fired the coach from the title winning team 2 years ago. Same with Florida and Auburn. Like I said, these teams other than Bama have the couple of good years then underachieve the rest of the time. Blame eSECpn for preseason overrating most of your teams as to why they all end up underachieving. My espn conspiracy theory isn't a theory. Does espn kiss sec azz 24/7 or not? Yes. Does that not have an impact on where high school kids are gonna want to play? It helps the recruiting whether you sec people want to admit it or not. High school kids want to go where they know eSECpn is gonna have them on tv all the time.
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Post by sotex on Apr 30, 2022 8:39:47 GMT -6
How is that cherry picking? He just gave you the stats over the last 5 years and those are facts. It's up to you now to provide the facts to disprove it. In your earlier post you said Bama carried the SEC. In the last 5 years the SEC has won 4 of the 5 national titles with 3 different teams and that wasn't done with the ESPN conspiracy factor you claim. They did it in the playoff system. Disprove his point with facts instead of your opinions. I'll wait. I proved my point. Those teams also had great OFFENSES. I also made the point about the different SEC teams winning a title. They have their couple of good years then go back to garbage but because they had a couple of good years you guys get to name drop them like if they're Alabama consistent. They're not. Look at LSU already fired the coach from the title winning team 2 years ago. Same with Florida and Auburn. Like I said, these teams other than Bama have the couple of good years then underachieve the rest of the time. Blame eSECpn for preseason overrating most of your teams as to why they all end up underachieving. My espn conspiracy theory isn't a theory. Does espn kiss sec azz 24/7 or not? Yes. Does that not have an impact on where high school kids are gonna want to play? It helps the recruiting whether you sec people want to admit it or not. High school kids want to go where they know eSECpn is gonna have them on tv all the time.Β Okay then I'll ask you this. What team in the NATION other than Bama is con a is consistently playing for the national title? I guess that makes all the other teams trash including yours. You haven't proven any point or backed it up with facts. Yes these teams had some good offenses. LSU had a great offense that year once they gelled, but they had great defenses. Hell, if all it took was offense, Mike Leach would have several national titles under his belt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 8:42:29 GMT -6
I proved my point. Those teams also had great OFFENSES. I also made the point about the different SEC teams winning a title. They have their couple of good years then go back to garbage but because they had a couple of good years you guys get to name drop them like if they're Alabama consistent. They're not. Look at LSU already fired the coach from the title winning team 2 years ago. Same with Florida and Auburn. Like I said, these teams other than Bama have the couple of good years then underachieve the rest of the time. Blame eSECpn for preseason overrating most of your teams as to why they all end up underachieving. My espn conspiracy theory isn't a theory. Does espn kiss sec azz 24/7 or not? Yes. Does that not have an impact on where high school kids are gonna want to play? It helps the recruiting whether you sec people want to admit it or not. High school kids want to go where they know eSECpn is gonna have them on tv all the time. Okay then I'll ask you this. What team in the NATION other than Bama is con a is consistently playing for the national title? I guess that makes all the other teams trash including yours. You're missing the point. Other teams not in the sec aren't talked about like Bama the way all your sec teams are. sec lovers and espn act like every team in the conference is Bama. That's the point.
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Post by sotex on Apr 30, 2022 8:46:54 GMT -6
Okay then I'll ask you this. What team in the NATION other than Bama is con a is consistently playing for the national title? I guess that makes all the other teams trash including yours. You're missing the point. Other teams not in the sec aren't talked about like Bama the way all your sec teams are. sec lovers and espn act like every team in the conference is Bama. That's the point.Β The point is the SEC is better than the other conferences. ESPN is in the business of making money. Do you think people would watch if all they talked about was the WAC? Pac10?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 10:42:35 GMT -6
You're missing the point. Other teams not in the sec aren't talked about like Bama the way all your sec teams are. sec lovers and espn act like every team in the conference is Bama. That's the point. The point is the SEC is better than the other conferences. ESPN is in the business of making money. Do you think people would watch if all they talked about was the WAC? Pac10? Still missing the point. SEC fans are literally the only ones that don't see the ESPN bias towards your conference. And yes if all espn talked about was the WAC then the nation would know who is in the WAC lol. That's how it all works. I don't care about the SEC any more than I do the WAC. Neither has my team in it. But I'm gonna know about what espn promotes all the time not what they never talk about.
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Post by sotex on May 1, 2022 17:45:55 GMT -6
The point is the SEC is better than the other conferences. ESPN is in the business of making money. Do you think people would watch if all they talked about was the WAC? Pac10? Still missing the point. SEC fans are literally the only ones that don't see the ESPN bias towards your conference. And yes if all espn talked about was the WAC then the nation would know who is in the WAC lol. That's how it all works. I don't care about the SEC any more than I do the WAC. Neither has my team in it. But I'm gonna know about what espn promotes all the time not what they never talk about.Β The only one missing the point is you. Call it biased or whatever but people gravitate to winners. It's what buys their commercials and keeps them employed. Pretty sure people aren't going to watch if they spend Hours on end talking about Colorodo State.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 18:17:43 GMT -6
Still missing the point. SEC fans are literally the only ones that don't see the ESPN bias towards your conference. And yes if all espn talked about was the WAC then the nation would know who is in the WAC lol. That's how it all works. I don't care about the SEC any more than I do the WAC. Neither has my team in it. But I'm gonna know about what espn promotes all the time not what they never talk about. The only one missing the point is you. Call it biased or whatever but people gravitate to winners. It's what buys their commercials and keeps them employed. Pretty sure people aren't going to watch if they spend Hours on end talking about Colorodo State. People gravitate to whoever they are EXPOSED to. Dallas has been jack chit for over 20 years and they're still the most watched team because they are the focus of every show. Has nothing to do with gravitating to winners. If espn talked about Colorado State 24/7 you don't think they're ratings and recruiting would go up?. Pretend I'm not talking about the sec. Look at baseball. ESPN acts like the Yankees and Red Sox are the only 2 teams in the entire MLB. Don't you think if they exposed other teams those teams would gain in popularity?.
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Post by sotex on May 1, 2022 18:31:01 GMT -6
The only one missing the point is you. Call it biased or whatever but people gravitate to winners. It's what buys their commercials and keeps them employed. Pretty sure people aren't going to watch if they spend Hours on end talking about Colorodo State. People gravitate to whoever they are EXPOSED to. Dallas has been jack chit for over 20 years and they're still the most watched team because they are the focus of every show. Has nothing to do with gravitating to winners. If espn talked about Colorado State 24/7 you don't think they're ratings and recruiting would go up?. Pretend I'm not talking about the sec. Look at baseball. ESPN acts like the Yankees and Red Sox are the only 2 teams in the entire MLB. Don't you think if they exposed other teams those teams would gain in popularity?. Ah so you're saying people are dumb and can't think for themselves. Fact: Dallas is the #1 sports franchise and it ain't because of ESPN. Doesn't really matter what they did in the last 20 years because people either love them or hate them. If ESPN doesn't talk about them people are gonna stop watching. You're talking like ESPN is responsible for the SEC's success, Cowboys etc. Lmao. There is no MLB without the Yankees or Redsox. Dallas, the Yankees, Redsox ect were successful franchises long before ESPN came along. Your argument holds no water.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 2, 2022 6:03:56 GMT -6
Just for you Chino: 2021 Georgia Held every team they played to below their season average against all other opponents including Alabama (.5 point) in the SEC title game that they lost. Held 13 of the 15 teams they faced to at least 14 points below their scoring average. Held 10 teams to at least 21 points below their season avg. 2020 Alabama Held 11 of 13 opponents below their season avg. Held 7 of those 11 at least 14 points below their avg. Held 5 of those 11 at least 21 points below their avg 2019 LSU Held 12 of 15 opponents below their season avg. Held 8 of those 12 at least 14 points below their avg. Held 5 of the 12 at least 21 below their avg. 2018 Clemson Held 14 of 15 opponents below their season avg. Held 10 of those 14 teams at least 14 points below their avg. Held 7 of those 14 teams at least 21 below their avg. Held 5 of those 14 at least 28 points below their avg including Alabama in the title game (44-16) 2017 Alabama Held all 14 teams below their season avg. Held 11 of the 14 teams at least 14 below their avg. Held 6 of the 14 at least 21 points below their avg. Held 3 of these teams at least 28 below their avg This isn't cherry picking a damn thing Chino. These are actual numbers and numbers DO NOT LIE. Great defenses are what win titles and the SEC has won the overwhelming majority of those titles the last 20 years no matter how much you want to whine about them getting all the media attention! They earned it on the field with championships! Most ridiculous cherry pick job ever. Why don't you cherry pick how many teams they scored more on than their season averages. Anyone can cherry pick. Am I lying when I say the whole "defense wins championships" mantra was started in an era where everyone scored next to nothing because everyone was running clock killing run based offenses. That's not my opinion. That happened. These teams you just cherry picked also had great offenses. You left that out. Why don't you cherry pick that if you are so confident. Of course the majority of the teams that win it will score more then their opponents do.......THEY HAVE A BETTER DEFENSE AND SHUT THEM DOWN.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 2, 2022 6:06:58 GMT -6
Cupcake Kansas, cough, cough. SEC Mid card Arkansas took the Horns to the shed last year. The Big 12 is nothing but cupcakes outside of OU over the last 5 years. Even little old Baylor has moved up to the #2 team in the Big12. Also, the Big 12 has not produced a first round draft pick in the last two years. Big XII isn't getting it's azz kissed by eSECpn 24/7. Be real a lot of those SEC top draft picks end up busts. Especially your QBs. Take the best players at each position in the NFL and most are from non-SEC conferences. But the overratedness of your conference 24/7 by the media has your players on average getting drafted higher than they deserve. You think the scouts don't pay attention and get influenced by the media? Of course they do. Keep reaching. Of course some end up busts just like they do from every conference. What matters is who has the most....END OF STORY NFL players by conference: SEC 335 Big 10 266 ACC 208 Pack 12 159 Big 12 138 American 84
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 2, 2022 6:13:05 GMT -6
Cupcake Kansas, cough, cough. SEC Mid card Arkansas took the Horns to the shed last year. The Big 12 is nothing but cupcakes outside of OU over the last 5 years. Even little old Baylor has moved up to the #2 team in the Big12. Also, the Big 12 has not produced a first round draft pick in the last two years. Dude your conference is carried by Bama. Your conference is 10 bums in the bottom 10. Other than Bama the others that have won titles over the last decade and a half aren't consistently great. It's once in awhile. A bum azz 5 loss Longhorn team was a dropped TD pass away from beating your conferences best team ever - LSU. Or at least one of the best at worst. Overrated conference. You are starting to seem like a babbling fool. Anyone who watched that UT/LSU game saw who the better team was and at NO time did anyone I sat with think UT was gong to win that game and that included 3 UT grads. Keep talking it up with nonsense. So LSU's 3 BCS titles mean nothing. How about Florida's 2 BCS titles? They must be average to then right? So what does that make UT & blOwU then since they both just have one BCS title? Keep trying
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 2, 2022 6:22:01 GMT -6
Show the stat where A&M has a better win percentage in the SEC than what they did in the previous equal amount of years in the Big XII. Why if your conference is so much harder?. Cherry pick king left that one out. So Mr Football guru, with your own eyes who has the better team right now, TU or A&M? Pretty simple question I think. Keep in mind please that KU currently owns a 1 game win streak over your Horns! Which team in the SEC would you say is about the same strength wise as KU? If you cannot see the difference between playing Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, and ARKANSAS every year instead of TT, K St, Kansas, Iowa St, and WV then your football IQ is much lower than I've been giving you credit for.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 2, 2022 6:25:20 GMT -6
People mocking Baylor with jokes... meanwhile still in round 3 they've had like 5 guys drafted already. Nobody is mocking Baylor here Why would they? They've done FAR more with FAR less than TU has the last 10 years. Do you want me to post up the average recruiting classes again so you can see that once more. Or would that be cherry picking again. And the kid taken in the 3rd round from Baylor is a good friend of mine's son.
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