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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 13:03:43 GMT -6
Bunch of crybabies in here geez. Always something to complain about. The mean UIL won't let the state game be played anywhere but North texas, the mean UIL shouldn't allow opt ups except for hardship cases, the mean UIL shouldn't allow powerhouse teams with DISD or FWISD. Get y'all some wine for all this injustice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 13:58:11 GMT -6
The UIL hasn't cared much about that argument in past (cough, cough, having the state football title games on annual basis now in North Texas for example). So why should they care about school saving money with this issue? That's a weak statement knowing the UIL let Calallen and Alice go from D29 to D30 last realignment. I guess it was up to D30 coaches but the UIL could have vetoed any appeal. Stop being butt hurt that the title game is at AT&T. The fee to rent the venue is lower and more people show up. Those are facts. AISD is in the red and all that extra travel wasn't cost feasible. That's a hardship case. That's hardly the same as the nonsense you are referring to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 14:00:34 GMT -6
The UIL hasn't cared much about that argument in past (cough, cough, having the state football title games on annual basis now in North Texas for example). So why should they care about school saving money with this issue? That's a weak statement knowing the UIL let Calallen and Alice go from D29 to D30 last realignment. I guess it was up to D30 coaches but the UIL could have vetoed any appeal. Stop being butt hurt that the title game is at AT&T. The fee to rent the venue is lower and more people show up. Those are facts. More people show up? Sure people from other schools nearby not from the actual schools being represented that are 8 hours away.
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Post by wfcoyote on Jan 30, 2018 14:38:39 GMT -6
You are not going to play in AT&T Stadium any time soon so don’t worry about it. Refugio may have a case but the rest around here are lucky to get to the second round.
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Post by picodegallo on Jan 30, 2018 14:46:33 GMT -6
The UIL hasn't cared much about that argument in past (cough, cough, having the state football title games on annual basis now in North Texas for example). So why should they care about school saving money with this issue? That's a weak statement knowing the UIL let Calallen and Alice go from D29 to D30 last realignment. I guess it was up to D30 coaches but the UIL could have vetoed any appeal. Stop being butt hurt that the title game is at AT&T. The fee to rent the venue is lower and more people show up. Those are facts. We had to do all sorts lobbying and pulling of teeth to get it done. And besides that would of been for all sports, band and academic events at well.
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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 30, 2018 15:10:27 GMT -6
Whats the point of using software to find the best possible solutions if the human factor is gonna F it up by allowing opt-ups from teams that aren't hardship cases. Was Alice a hardship case when y'all went from D29 to D30? It's just a couple extra miles to drive. If y'all couldn't afford the gas maybe y'all shouldn't play the sport.... Completely different situation.
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Post by karlosy on Jan 30, 2018 15:29:05 GMT -6
Bunch of crybabies in here geez. Always something to complain about. The mean UIL won't let the state game be played anywhere but North texas, the mean UIL shouldn't allow opt ups except for hardship cases, the mean UIL shouldn't allow powerhouse teams with DISD or FWISD. Get y'all some wine for all this injustice. Lots of crying from the teams you mentioned that jumped last go around. They threw a fit and forced their way into another district without regards to the monster 11-team district that was created. Thats what happens to teams in West Texas, East Texas and the Coastal Bend. Travel, travel; travel. Not everyone lives in a 6-7 million people metro mess with a good 50 or so schools they could be paired with. I guess everyone should just let the UIL do what they want without any type of discussion or criticism, right?
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Post by wildcat1996 on Jan 30, 2018 15:52:18 GMT -6
Hey at the end of the day we are all fans and will follow our teams no matter where they end up at. Hope for the best and expect the worse come Thursday.
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Post by arges on Jan 30, 2018 15:53:37 GMT -6
No real crying here. Heck Seguin might actually make the playoffs if they go north to play the Austin schools. The UIL needs to use some types of rules so that won't have more of a clustermess in the future.
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Post by leopard4life on Jan 30, 2018 17:39:50 GMT -6
I didn't notice that Frisco Reedy could have gone D1. My Guess is most of these Frisco schools will have D1 numbers by the start of the season and close to 6A numbers by year two. Prosper is 6A, but will open a new school. I'm guessing even with the new school they will both be 6A. Celina will be joining the mix for 5A as soon as the next realignment. I think both Prosper schools will be 5A for a cycle. Celina has probably no less than 6 years before being in the mix. It will be Anna, then Melissa, then Celina. The growth along the the Dallas North Toll Road (DNT) is a lot faster than 75. However if Amazon comes to Collin County it will be in either Allen, McKinney or Melissa and that will be a game changer. Right now 75 doesn't have the corporate growth and HQ's that 121 and DNT have. I think a lot of states are fighting for the 2nd Amazon HQ, but I'm pretty sure Texas, and specifically Collin County will win. If it isn't Collin it will be Grayson or Fanin. The above info changes the which school goes 6A first. Frisco is growing like mad and Prosper is feeling the heat. Prosper will open their second campus by 2020. They will probably start next school year at close to 3500+. As you say they will put both schools in 5A, but it will be BS. They lied at the 2016 realignment and mysteriously misplaced over 80 students, so it's safe to say they will do it again. Celina is already starting to see the big subdivisions creep in, and the developers are grabbing up land. It will probably be 2022 before Celina moves up, but they could move up in a hurry if this boom and growth continue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:49:12 GMT -6
Was Alice a hardship case when y'all went from D29 to D30? It's just a couple extra miles to drive. If y'all couldn't afford the gas maybe y'all shouldn't play the sport.... Completely different situation. Not really, at the end of the day schools that opt up or Alice last realignment wanted a better geographic district to benefit them in some way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:54:00 GMT -6
Bunch of crybabies in here geez. Always something to complain about. The mean UIL won't let the state game be played anywhere but North texas, the mean UIL shouldn't allow opt ups except for hardship cases, the mean UIL shouldn't allow powerhouse teams with DISD or FWISD. Get y'all some wine for all this injustice. Aledo has it easy being close to a major metro area. Plenty of teams to be paired with for districts, with MINIMAL travel compared to other areas. The State Championships and late round playoff games in your backyard EVERY year. Then you want to come on here and call others crybabies. Just be thankful you have it so easy and everything is handed to Aledo on a silver platter. Just worry about the entitled attitude of the Aledo Alums like yourself and let the grownups discuss our issues. You always like to say if someone doesn't like what you post they can Ignore it. Follow your own advice. Your Ego and elitist attitude is showing. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity.
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Post by karlosy on Jan 30, 2018 19:28:43 GMT -6
Fact is this is a message board for discussion of hs football. It is the off-season, not much else of interest going on besides some coaching changes. There will always be disagreements about various aspects of the sport. 4 teams in the playoffs? Too many! Some approve of it. I hate it, especially for 5-6 team districts. UIL realignments have usually been criticized, mainly by those that feel they got a raw deal or those that have some time to do waste.
Alice and Calallen should have stayed in district 29 and kept their mouth shut, would have built some character. That's the spirit. I just hope more teams look at this precedent and stick it to the UIL in coming years. Many schools will be able to point at this case if they feel they got shafted. Anything that makes those worms squirm in their seats is good. Let's also hope 50 schools opt up in 5a next round too.
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Post by arges on Jan 30, 2018 20:15:18 GMT -6
Whats the point of using software to find the best possible solutions if the human factor is gonna F it up by allowing opt-ups from teams that aren't hardship cases. Was Alice a hardship case when y'all went from D29 to D30? It's just a couple extra miles to drive. If y'all couldn't afford the gas maybe y'all shouldn't play the sport.... It was definitely a hardship on Alice and the other CC area schools to be put in a district with Uvalde and others for all sports. 200 miles one-way on school nights would have been obscene. The UIL dropped the ball on this one when they could have added the Victoria schools and Calhoun to make closer connections. Hopefully they will make better arrangements this time.
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Post by rtxc1 on Jan 30, 2018 20:37:07 GMT -6
I think both Prosper schools will be 5A for a cycle. Celina has probably no less than 6 years before being in the mix. It will be Anna, then Melissa, then Celina. The growth along the the Dallas North Toll Road (DNT) is a lot faster than 75. However if Amazon comes to Collin County it will be in either Allen, McKinney or Melissa and that will be a game changer. Right now 75 doesn't have the corporate growth and HQ's that 121 and DNT have. I think a lot of states are fighting for the 2nd Amazon HQ, but I'm pretty sure Texas, and specifically Collin County will win. If it isn't Collin it will be Grayson or Fanin. The above info changes the which school goes 6A first. Frisco is growing like mad and Prosper is feeling the heat. Prosper will open their second campus by 2020. They will probably start next school year at close to 3500+. As you say they will put both schools in 5A, but it will be BS. They lied at the 2016 realignment and mysteriously misplaced over 80 students, so it's safe to say they will do it again. Celina is already starting to see the big subdivisions creep in, and the developers are grabbing up land. It will probably be 2022 before Celina moves up, but they could move up in a hurry if this boom and growth continue. Amazon HQ2 recently released its 20 finalists, and despite how hard Frisco has pushed for it, Frisco didn’t make the list. Amazon was adamant that only cities with 1M population would be considered. I’m so thankful that Frisco wasn’t considered. On the other hand, while Celina had been growing faster than others in the past, Anna has surpassed that growth in recent years. Melissa is currently growing faster as well. Anna and Melissa are actively building quite a few new subdivisions, more than Celina at the moment. Now that could change in the coming years, but I’d be surprised to see Celina pass up Anna in the next 2-3 years.
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