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Post by Fletcher Duque on Jul 1, 2024 15:09:33 GMT -6
With the money that football makes, (NIL, TV & Streaming Revenue), I feel that it's a matter of time before we see a televised\streaming National Playoff, this could definitely happen. If there was money involved in the winnings, no way school districts wouldn't fund and find way to get their state championship team involved if they were invited for it. I've done the research, some of these high school football games on in late summer outbeat the bowl games in December with TV ratings....something to think about. I think it will happen sooner than later. ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRbkxfnX0AAP3kh?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by bubbme on Jul 2, 2024 5:52:27 GMT -6
I would love to see what DeSoto would do to some of those California Prep monsters!
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Post by Fletcher Duque on Jul 2, 2024 11:35:32 GMT -6
I think millions of others would too.
NIL is doing nothing but opening the opportunity up.
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Post by gpballer4life on Jul 2, 2024 15:10:10 GMT -6
I would love to see what DeSoto would do to some of those California Prep monsters! They would get beat handedly most likely. Mater Dei Destroyed Duncanville a few years ago.
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Post by Cochino on Jul 2, 2024 15:15:32 GMT -6
I would love to see what DeSoto would do to some of those California Prep monsters! They would get beat handedly most likely. Mater Dei Destroyed Duncanville a few years ago. It's not like Duncanville was Texas' best team that season. They struggled with 5A SOC the very next week and lost to Northshore in the title lgame.
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Post by warcat82 on Jul 3, 2024 10:32:20 GMT -6
First off, you would have to look at enrollments. Some states have different classifications like 8A and such. Then place schools in proper tournament brackets. I'd put the likes of Duncanville and DeSoto up against the bigger schools of other states. I'd put the likes of Carthage and such against the small schools in the country. Can you imagine Refugio of a decade or so ago against the little schools of other states? Same with the 6 man guys. Richland Springs and Abbott would wreck other states...
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Post by BandidoNB on Jul 3, 2024 11:03:55 GMT -6
First off, you would have to look at enrollments. Some states have different classifications like 8A and such. Then place schools in proper tournament brackets. I'd put the likes of Duncanville and DeSoto up against the bigger schools of other states. I'd put the likes of Carthage and such against the small schools in the country. Can you imagine Refugio of a decade or so ago against the little schools of other states? Same with the 6 man guys. Richland Springs and Abbott would wreck other states... This. There’s no national standard for enrollments and classification. So it will never be an equal comparison that can be agreed upon for all schools. Plus, who cares? A Texas football championship is prestigious enough.
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Post by Fletcher Duque on Jul 3, 2024 16:52:03 GMT -6
National standard for enrollment and classification won't matter if there is millions of advertising dollars on the line.
Perhaps a tournament for enrollments above 1000 and below 1000 would be something. Anyways, hear me out.
ational Prep Playoff: - 8 Team Tournament (No more regular season bye weeks) determined by a national committee. - All games played at neutral locations so teams have the least amount of travel. - Must win a state championship to be eligible. - Rankings Show Each Week beginning in late October. - Played 2nd Weekend of December through Christmas Break (both the semis and championship during Christmas Break, student athletes do not miss school, seniors looking to graduate early will not have any second semester conflicts if starting early.) - Winning Team receives money for their school district and for their respective state high school sports organization from advertisement money.
Would be a ratings bonanza.
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Post by warcat82 on Jul 3, 2024 22:21:46 GMT -6
National standard for enrollment and classification won't matter if there is millions of advertising dollars on the line. Perhaps a tournament for enrollments above 1000 and below 1000 would be something. Anyways, hear me out. ational Prep Playoff: - 8 Team Tournament (No more regular season bye weeks) determined by a national committee. - All games played at neutral locations so teams have the least amount of travel. - Must win a state championship to be eligible. - Rankings Show Each Week beginning in late October. - Played 2nd Weekend of December through Christmas Break (both the semis and championship during Christmas Break, student athletes do not miss school, seniors looking to graduate early will not have any second semester conflicts if starting early.) - Winning Team receives money for their school district and for their respective state high school sports organization from advertisement money. Would be a ratings bonanza. Major flaws in your plan... 1 Texas teams will not give up bye weeks, those are needed to nurse injuries. 2 Seniors leaving early will still leave early, just like bowl games in college. They will not risk their future for this. It's been proven in college. 3 you would have to do above 2500, above 2000, above 1500, above 1000, above 500, above 100, and 6 man. 4 don't rush them, play it out. Regional so west coast can play in Oregon, Idaho, or Nevada. Mountain region can play in Colorado or Wyoming. Northern can be Michigan. Central can be Kansas. Texas can host Southwest. Alabama, the Southeast. Virginia the East. New York, the North East. Then once those win move to a super regional type. Mountain plays west coast in Utah. North v North East in Ohio. Central v Southwest in Oklahoma. East v Southeast in Georgia. Then the semis. Then the finals. That would take 5 to 6 weeks at least. Many states schools would not be able to afford that travel.
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Post by Fletcher Duque on Jul 5, 2024 7:31:31 GMT -6
Hey this isn't "my" plan, but anyways, this is all in good fun, let me debate:
To #1- Most states don't do bye weeks in High School Football, there are no need for them, none. Especially in Texas where most teams have 3 or 4 games that mean literally nothing.
To #2- If and when there is money to be made, to be in a national spotlight, you are crazy if you think teams, players would just "stop" after their state title.
To #3- You would NOT have to do anything with classifications, it's who is the overall best. No one cares about classifications or "fairness" when it's all a show. What? you think college football is fair? It's basically Major League Baseball at this point with only like maybe 8 teams who can really win it. People still watch, people love it.
To #4- It's an invitational, it's a show, just like college football. It's not fair. See above.
Thanks for the banter!
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Post by warcat82 on Jul 5, 2024 19:29:49 GMT -6
Hey this isn't "my" plan, but anyways, this is all in good fun, let me debate: To #1- Most states don't do bye weeks in High School Football, there are no need for them, none. Especially in Texas where most teams have 3 or 4 games that mean literally nothing. To #2- If and when there is money to be made, to be in a national spotlight, you are crazy if you think teams, players would just "stop" after their state title. To #3- You would NOT have to do anything with classifications, it's who is the overall best. No one cares about classifications or "fairness" when it's all a show. What? you think college football is fair? It's basically Major League Baseball at this point with only like maybe 8 teams who can really win it. People still watch, people love it. To #4- It's an invitational, it's a show, just like college football. It's not fair. See above. Thanks for the banter! 1 I was a coach until illness took it away. There is a need for bye weeks. 2 tell that to FSU and other teams that literally had over half their teams sit out of bowl games that paid real money because they were headed to the NFL. Kids are not going to play in these games if it jeopardizes their future for their college teams. They will sit out just like the college kids do. Heck a high school kid in Texas sat out the state title game because he had a scholarship locked up and was graduating early. Then there was Ewers that skipped his entire senior year to go to Ohio State. 3 classification does matter. Coaches will protect their kids. A team the size of Refugio is not going to accept a game with DeSoto. That's suicide not entertainment. College football teams compete with like size schools. You don't see Alabama playing a D3 team or NAIA. Come on man. To make it worth considering for any coach it has to be fair for their team and their kids. Classifications do that, thus breaking it down by enrollments does that. 4 practicing for these games takes time. Again coaches are not going to rush things and get their kids hurt. They are going to watch film, study opponents, game plan, and teach their teams. It will take 6 weeks or more to get these games played. Even promised money is not going to be enough to get some schools to bight. Now if some corporate sponsors pay along the way, they will be more willing to do it. Money does talk to administrators. It would be a great January and February playoff plus while the NFL is going too. They could even coordinate with the NFL to play all the finals games during the all star game week at that location, or during super bowl week at that location, and let the kids meet NFL players. Now of course, Texas teams would be in probably 3 or 4 of the final 4 or 5 games, so we would just prove Texas is king of football.
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Post by sotex on Jul 5, 2024 23:10:57 GMT -6
They would get beat handedly most likely. Mater Dei Destroyed Duncanville a few years ago. It's not like Duncanville was Texas' best team that season. They struggled with 5A SOC the very next week and lost to Northshore in the title lgame. Maybe not the best, but they were in the top 3-5 and got anahilated by Mater Dei, and it would have been worse if Mater Deie played their starters the entire game. Mater Die recruits Kids from all over the US. Hell, they could probably beat some D-3 college teams.
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Post by warcat82 on Jul 6, 2024 1:41:34 GMT -6
It's not like Duncanville was Texas' best team that season. They struggled with 5A SOC the very next week and lost to Northshore in the title lgame. Maybe not the best, but they were in the top 3-5 and got anahilated by Mater Dei, and it would have been worse if Mater Deie played their starters the entire game. Mater Die recruits Kids from all over the US. Hell, they could probably beat some D-3 college teams. They got in trouble for it too. A lot of California schools quit playing them for that exact reason. They are notorious for cheating. It's ridiculous what they and IMG do...
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Post by gp37 on Jul 6, 2024 6:42:15 GMT -6
They used to have the “Oil Bowl game in Wichita Falls with OK Allstars vs TX Allstars and it ended after a lot of years. I don’t think a national game would go over. If it did, it would not last very long with Texas winning every year.
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Post by Fletcher Duque on Jul 6, 2024 7:24:15 GMT -6
They used to have the “Oil Bowl game in Wichita Falls with OK Allstars vs TX Allstars and it ended after a lot of years. I don’t think a national game would go over. If it did, it would not last very long with Texas winning every year. Many other states did it as well, word is some of them are firing up again to put on TV...I honestly don't see it going anywhere unless of course, a money reward is involved. Back to Warcat -> all great points. Here's the thing...no one is inviting Refugio, or any even your Celina's or other 4A powers to this thing. If they happened to be in a national top 25, which they wouldn't even be in a Texas Top 25, then sure, maybe they would have a shot. Just like college football, you'd have a national committee, pick the top 8 teams all who were state champions. This would likely eliminate IMG or Mater Dei, which would really hurt those type of schools...too bad this is all in fun!
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