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Post by bluecat on Apr 9, 2024 13:30:39 GMT -6
I bet for not long. It’s a shame that Victoria East that they have to go through the process of hiring a new HC again. But than again how often does an opening like Calallen come around? VE needs to bypass the search committee route, dig deep in their pocket and go hire that HC at Edna. Mitchell been a good program builder everywhere he’s been and a proven damned good coach. I'm not sure too many coaches want to take on that district they are in honestly. The kids at East are good kids, and definitely have talent, but for the next 2 years it's probably going to be 4th place at best given the powerhouse district they got put in. That's a tough sale for many coaches. Hey come build us a football program but you might only be 6-4 or 5-5 until we can get out of our current district... the fact that job only is for the Head Coach position will limit some very experienced coaches with families from applying could limit the number of applicants who apply. In CC who all fall under Momma Brenda’s umbrella, are the HC” considered asst AD” or AC”s as athletic Coordinators? And as such what boost in salary can they expect ?
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Post by warcat82 on Apr 9, 2024 18:25:05 GMT -6
I'm not sure too many coaches want to take on that district they are in honestly. The kids at East are good kids, and definitely have talent, but for the next 2 years it's probably going to be 4th place at best given the powerhouse district they got put in. That's a tough sale for many coaches. Hey come build us a football program but you might only be 6-4 or 5-5 until we can get out of our current district... the fact that job only is for the Head Coach position will limit some very experienced coaches with families from applying could limit the number of applicants who apply. In CC who all fall under Momma Brenda’s umbrella, are the HC” considered asst AD” or AC”s as athletic Coordinators? And as such what boost in salary can they expect ? Yeah the AC or Campus Coordinator as some schools call them now, might decide to stay put. Although, honestly only Evans and the Vets coach are really the only guys from ccisd that would be legitimately worth considering. The Carroll coach needs a few more years of showing improvement to move on, but he's headed in the right direction at least. Some good young guns are worth giving the reigns to East and letting them build. They need a high energy, disciplinarian, with brass ones, and willing to take some lumps from some heavyweights in district until they rise to their level. A possible experienced coach no longer wanting the headaches of the AD side, but wanting to still scratch the itch of coaching could also be a good fit. Those guys are out there. They sit back waiting for these types of jobs collecting their retirement checks until they see jobs like this. They could wind up with a surprise hire. Either way I hope East gets a great coach. They really do deserve a great coach.
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Post by Saltydog on Apr 10, 2024 17:11:51 GMT -6
I would be great if Jimmie Mitchell Edna football coach would get the job at East I like what he has done to the Edna football program since he took it over.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 10, 2024 20:51:32 GMT -6
I would be great if Jimmie Mitchell Edna football coach would get the job at East I like what he has done to the Edna football program since he took it over. Yup .... Any chatter about the next coach??
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Post by SouthTexasBloodsport on Apr 11, 2024 14:39:35 GMT -6
I would be great if Jimmie Mitchell Edna football coach would get the job at East I like what he has done to the Edna football program since he took it over. Yup .... Any chatter about the next coach?? Only thing I've heard is likely an inside hire. Too bad because there's some young locals that need a shot. David McHugh, Mathew McHugh, James Villarreal, Gage Perry.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 11, 2024 18:33:48 GMT -6
Yup .... Any chatter about the next coach?? Only thing I've heard is likely an inside hire. Too bad because there's some young locals that need a shot. David McHugh, Mathew McHugh, James Villareal, Gage Perry. I think that might be the case. I know Reeve brought in some pretty good Assistant coaches. Makes me wonder if some will go to Calallen with him...... Maybe Wayne Condra will get another shot! 😁
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Post by warcat82 on Apr 11, 2024 21:26:24 GMT -6
Yup .... Any chatter about the next coach?? Only thing I've heard is likely an inside hire. Too bad because there's some young locals that need a shot. David McHugh, Mathew McHugh, James Villarreal, Gage Perry. The McHugh's and Gage Perry are definitely good young choices. They'd be good for East.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 12, 2024 8:05:00 GMT -6
Only thing I've heard is likely an inside hire. Too bad because there's some young locals that need a shot. David McHugh, Mathew McHugh, James Villarreal, Gage Perry. The McHugh's and Gage Perry are definitely good young choices. They'd be good for East. What school are those coaches at currently and what is their title?
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Post by SouthTexasBloodsport on Apr 12, 2024 9:23:45 GMT -6
The McHugh's and Gage Perry are definitely good young choices. They'd be good for East. What school are those coaches at currently and what is their title? David McHugh is the OC at Ingleside. Mathew McHugh is at Crowley (I don't remember his title). James Villarreal is the DC at Tuloso-Midway. Gage Perry is the HC at Robstown.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 12, 2024 9:58:02 GMT -6
What school are those coaches at currently and what is their title? David McHugh is the OC at Ingleside. Mathew McHugh is at Crowley (I don't remember his title). James Villarreal is the DC at Tuloso-Midway. Gage Perry is the HC at Robstown. Cool thanks! I like what Perry has done at Robstown as well as the guy at Ingleside. Don't know much about the other guys but I'll keep my eyes on them!!
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Post by bluecat on Apr 12, 2024 11:31:18 GMT -6
I would be great if Jimmie Mitchell Edna football coach would get the job at East I like what he has done to the Edna football program since he took it over. Yup .... Any chatter about the next coach?? One of the problems that the Victoria school system inherently created when they went with AD position is that in such both Victoria school get 50/50 expenditures for sports. Well that’s just fine unless one program excels while the other does not. In effect during a coach search it can and does effect the salary that you can offer. Already a HC only job pays less so assts coaches get paid less than other schools might get paid. I have no idea why Reeves accepted the job last year at East, but since it is his hometown and his first official HC job he accepted the job. I could see how it could be very frustrating to be denied funds to improve equipment and facilities when the AD tells you your budget must match the other school in Victoria. In my opinion Victoria if they truly want to improve need to ditch the one AD system and have two independent ISD”s in Victoria.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 12, 2024 11:34:29 GMT -6
Yup .... Any chatter about the next coach?? One of the problems that the Victoria school system inherently created when they went with AD position is that in such both Victoria school get 50/50 expenditures for sports. Well that’s just fine unless one program excels while the other does not. In effect during a coach search it can and does effect the salary that you can offer. Already a HC only job pays less so assts coaches get paid less than other schools might get paid. I have no idea why Reeves accepted the job last year at East, but since it is his hometown and his first official HC job he accepted the job. I could see how it could be very frustrating to be denied funds to improve equipment and facilities when the AD tells you your budget must match the other school in Victoria. In my opinion Victoria if they truly want to improve need to ditch the one AD system and have two independent ISD”s in Victoria. Bingo!
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Post by warcat82 on Apr 12, 2024 11:48:10 GMT -6
David McHugh is the OC at Ingleside. Mathew McHugh is at Crowley (I don't remember his title). James Villarreal is the DC at Tuloso-Midway. Gage Perry is the HC at Robstown. Cool thanks! I like what Perry has done at Robstown as well as the guy at Ingleside. Don't know much about the other guys but I'll keep my eyes on them!! Eyes off Villerreal.... nothing to see there... he's at TM.... leave him be... 😉😉😉😉 .... just keep moving along..... He was DC at CC Vets but now he belongs to the Maroon and Gold..... His contract states if he leaves the Warriors get 6.8 million dollars in compensation, 24 5 star recruits of their choosing for the next 20 years each year, coach Nick Saban, coach Bill Belichek, and the State title moved to Warrior stadium for 20 years....
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Post by picodegallo on Apr 12, 2024 12:25:52 GMT -6
Cool thanks! I like what Perry has done at Robstown as well as the guy at Ingleside. Don't know much about the other guys but I'll keep my eyes on them!! Eyes off Villerreal.... nothing to see there... he's at TM.... leave him be... 😉😉😉😉 .... just keep moving along..... He was DC at CC Vets but now he belongs to the Maroon and Gold..... His contract states if he leaves the Warriors get 6.8 million dollars in compensation, 24 5 star recruits of their choosing for the next 20 years each year, coach Nick Saban, coach Bill Belichek, and the State title moved to Warrior stadium for 20 years.... Well.... if Reeve wanted to do something remarkable and where history would repeat itself, he could hire Villarreal to come be the DC at Calallen. I think the last time that was tried it worked pretty damn good! LOL! I think the fanbase at TM would riot at the Five Points area if that occurred again.
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Post by bluecat on Apr 12, 2024 12:28:50 GMT -6
One of the problems that the Victoria school system inherently created when they went with AD position is that in such both Victoria school get 50/50 expenditures for sports. Well that’s just fine unless one program excels while the other does not. In effect during a coach search it can and does effect the salary that you can offer. Already a HC only job pays less so assts coaches get paid less than other schools might get paid. I have no idea why Reeves accepted the job last year at East, but since it is his hometown and his first official HC job he accepted the job. I could see how it could be very frustrating to be denied funds to improve equipment and facilities when the AD tells you your budget must match the other school in Victoria. In my opinion Victoria if they truly want to improve need to ditch the one AD system and have two independent ISD”s in Victoria. Bingo! To those who do not understand the history of the Victoria school system for decades and why they adopted the current system might want to research Victorias history to get a better understanding. Being born and raised just north of Victoria in a small town with a 2A school system, we considered the Victoria schools as huge schools and both schools Victoria high and Stroman couldn’t be more different. Victoria high was basically the more effluent rich school with a separate ISD with their own budget. Stroman ISD wasn’t as effluent , with a primarily minority enrollment in that school. Back in the late 70 and early 80”s and I’m trying not to talk politics, certain people in Victoria and the state of Texas, pressured both ISD”s into one unified huge school into Victoria Memorial. In effect over night they created a Cluster Yuck of the decade. School records, traditions and school boundaries overnight got destroyed. Both schools conjoined and went from two solid 4A programs into basically a totally unprepared 6A school who got destroyed in basically every sport. Two proud football programs got destroyed overnight all in the name of Unity by some seriously misguided people. Victoria Memorial high school was created and both schools were forced to conjoin and that went over just as bad as expected. On day one a gang war happened at the high school and Victoria police had to live in the high school for months.sports teams disbanded and refused to play together. It was a total disaster created by uninformed people trying to force their will on people who didn’t want that to happen. After a decade of a destroyed school system, they went back to a new/old system with Victoria East & West almost split on the old boundaries as before. Today Victoria ISD uses the AD position to prevent one School from becoming more effluent than the other school in sports.
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