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Post by calcatgirl on Apr 29, 2024 16:38:50 GMT -6
He ran a balanced more run focused offense at Vic East. He's also already said that the wing will remain in the game plan. We do have the right to share our expectations and that he evaluate the talent and what's best for our athletes versus someone coming in and throwing out what's worked for 40 years to run something like the spread when we don't have the athletes for it. GP learned that back when Bob Loomis was hired. We have run plays out of the spread for years. We just wanted to make sure that whoever came in understood that we want a balanced offense. I'm confident he'll bring that to Calallen. So you already handcuffed your new coach by telling him what he can and can't run. Why does the Wing have to remain in the gameplan? You say you'd be throwing out something that has worked for 40 years but today's kids have nothing to do with 40 years ago or 30 years ago or 20 years ago or 10 years ago. You don't bring in a coach and tell him he has to run a balanced offense. It's a year to year thing and you run what you run based on the talent you have or don't have THAT SEASON. It's not always going to be the same. Why don't you go talk to him if you know what's best? He said all of this to the parents at a meeting last week. Of course he will evaluate the players each season for what's best. That's what Danaher did also. But I can't help you if you don't understand a community not wanting someone to immediately come in and throw the baby out with the bath water. That's my point. We didn't want someone coming in and shelving everything we're done that works with our athletes for a full spread offense.
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Post by calcatgirl on Apr 29, 2024 16:39:36 GMT -6
How do you know this? Did you take a survey yourself? If not, then it’s pure speculation and your opinion. I have 20k followers and a large percentage of them are Calallen fans and I saw with my own eyes a $hitload of your fans upset at the hire. That's my survey. Again with the 20k followers. lol. There weren't a "ton" of comments and many of those are people I know who wanted the internal candidate and are butt hurt by the hire.
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Post by calcatgirl on Apr 29, 2024 16:41:38 GMT -6
You say this. You have a documented history of hating Calallen, so don’t play that card. You of all people should be applauding the hire if it means a decline of the Calallen program. You people have nothing on what I'm actually saying that's why you just say nonsense. I never said this guy being hired means Calallen is going to decline. The comment you are replying to literally says he could be better than Danaher for all I know. My argument is against all of you acting like I'm making stuff up about how the majority of your fans did not like this hire. I speak facts and facts don't care if you like them or not. The "majority" of our fans. Dude we all read the comments. A small percentage of people does not equate to the majority of Calallen fans. In fact quite a few read the comments and laughed it off and decided not to argue knowing those who posted have an agenda. Show us this "majority" or stop exaggerating. Lol.
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Post by jimmythegreek on Apr 29, 2024 17:00:36 GMT -6
How do you know this? Did you take a survey yourself? If not, then it’s pure speculation and your opinion. I have 20k followers and a large percentage of them are Calallen fans and I saw with my own eyes a $hitload of your fans upset at the hire. That's my survey. How do you know they are Calallen fans? As far you know they could be Alice or TM fans saying they are Calallen fans to stir up crap. I follow your FB page pretty closely and read everything you post either in support or hate of Calallen and it was largely a group of Debbie downers who also supported the internal choice . Some of those very people seem to forget were critical of that coach last year when our offense looked like a chit show even against the likes of Zapata. I read and heard with my very ears their disgust. Again if this is such a horrible hire for Call, people like you and King should be excited .
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Post by sotex on Apr 29, 2024 17:10:04 GMT -6
So you already handcuffed your new coach by telling him what he can and can't run. Why does the Wing have to remain in the gameplan? You say you'd be throwing out something that has worked for 40 years but today's kids have nothing to do with 40 years ago or 30 years ago or 20 years ago or 10 years ago. You don't bring in a coach and tell him he has to run a balanced offense. It's a year to year thing and you run what you run based on the talent you have or don't have THAT SEASON. It's not always going to be the same. Why don't you go talk to him if you know what's best? He said all of this to the parents at a meeting last week. Of course he will evaluate the players each season for what's best. That's what Danaher did also. But I can't help you if you don't understand a community not wanting someone to immediately come in and throw the baby out with the bath water. That's my point. We didn't want someone coming in and shelving everything we're done that works with our athletes for a full spread offense. You can absolutely run out of a spread offense. Waco LaVega did it quite successfully against Calallen and PLC a few years ago. Alice did it with success last year and coach Reeve was run heavy at VE last year. I agree with Chino that you go with kids that you have and what the defense gives you. Alice lined up with 3 backs in the backfield with the DE as a lead blocker in short yardage and goaline situations. I think Reeve can evaluate the players that he has and go from there. The last thing he needs is the fans telling him what he should do.
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Post by calcatgirl on Apr 29, 2024 17:17:29 GMT -6
Why don't you go talk to him if you know what's best? He said all of this to the parents at a meeting last week. Of course he will evaluate the players each season for what's best. That's what Danaher did also. But I can't help you if you don't understand a community not wanting someone to immediately come in and throw the baby out with the bath water. That's my point. We didn't want someone coming in and shelving everything we're done that works with our athletes for a full spread offense. You can absolutely run out of a spread offense. Waco LaVega did it quite successfully against Calallen and PLC a few years ago. Alice did it with success last year and coach Reeve was run heavy at VE last year. I agree with Chino that you go with kids that you have and what the defense gives you. Alice lined up with 3 backs in the backfield with the DE as a lead blocker in short yardage and goaline situations. I think Reeve can evaluate the players that he has and go from there. The last thing he needs is the fans telling him what he should do. Y'all are missing the point. We wanted a coach who WILL evaluate the personnel and decide what to do. We didn't want a coach who was going to come in and change it all just because he can without evaluating the talent. You know good and well that's what some do and it can fail miserably. He has decided on his own to keep the wing t based on what he's seen in watching video of past years and what he knows so far. Danaher always said if an applicant is asked what kind of offense he plans to run and responds with anything other than 'I'll decide after I evaluate the talent" than pass on him immediately. That is what our focus groups and the community all collectively agreed upon. We didn't want someone coming in with their own agenda without knowing that we don't have the type of athletes to run a full spread offense. Stop making this out to be more than what it is.
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Post by sotex on Apr 29, 2024 17:28:27 GMT -6
You can absolutely run out of a spread offense. Waco LaVega did it quite successfully against Calallen and PLC a few years ago. Alice did it with success last year and coach Reeve was run heavy at VE last year. I agree with Chino that you go with kids that you have and what the defense gives you. Alice lined up with 3 backs in the backfield with the DE as a lead blocker in short yardage and goaline situations. I think Reeve can evaluate the players that he has and go from there. The last thing he needs is the fans telling him what he should do. Y'all are missing the point. We wanted a coach who WILL evaluate the personnel and decide what to do. We didn't want a coach who was going to come in and change it all just because he can without evaluating the talent. You know good and well that's what some do and it can fail miserably. He has decided on his own to keep the wing t based on what he's seen in watching video of past years and what he knows so far. Danaher always said if an applicant is asked what kind of offense he plans to run and responds with anything other than 'I'll decide after I evaluate the talent" than pass on him immediately. That is what our focus groups and the community all collectively agreed upon. We didn't want someone coming in with their own agenda without knowing that we don't have the type of athletes to run a full spread offense. Stop making this out to be more than what it is. Then why hire a damn search committee? If y'all want to stay in the Wing-T, there's plenty of those coaches around. Listen, I think Calallen made a good hire, but if outsiders are going to meddle with him, it could very well backfire on y'all. Alice had that with their previous coach. Castellano came in and made it clear he was going to do things his way. I guess if Reeve is happy using some Wing-T and has the coaches that can utilize it, good for y'all.
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Post by Cochino on Apr 29, 2024 18:19:04 GMT -6
You can absolutely run out of a spread offense. Waco LaVega did it quite successfully against Calallen and PLC a few years ago. Alice did it with success last year and coach Reeve was run heavy at VE last year. I agree with Chino that you go with kids that you have and what the defense gives you. Alice lined up with 3 backs in the backfield with the DE as a lead blocker in short yardage and goaline situations. I think Reeve can evaluate the players that he has and go from there. The last thing he needs is the fans telling him what he should do. Y'all are missing the point. We wanted a coach who WILL evaluate the personnel and decide what to do. We didn't want a coach who was going to come in and change it all just because he can without evaluating the talent. You know good and well that's what some do and it can fail miserably. He has decided on his own to keep the wing t based on what he's seen in watching video of past years and what he knows so far. Danaher always said if an applicant is asked what kind of offense he plans to run and responds with anything other than 'I'll decide after I evaluate the talent" than pass on him immediately. That is what our focus groups and the community all collectively agreed upon. We didn't want someone coming in with their own agenda without knowing that we don't have the type of athletes to run a full spread offense. Stop making this out to be more than what it is. You're taking offensive advice from a coach that never in 40 years tried to develop the forward pass? Good luck with that. You didn't want a coach coming in with their own agenda? lmfao. How dare a coach have his agenda and not the agenda of calallen superfans who think they should have input on what offense he runs. Luckily for you guys you're Calallen and gonna win regardless because you superfans are clearly setting up this new guy for failure even though that's not your intentions.
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Post by Cochino on Apr 29, 2024 18:20:56 GMT -6
Y'all are missing the point. We wanted a coach who WILL evaluate the personnel and decide what to do. We didn't want a coach who was going to come in and change it all just because he can without evaluating the talent. You know good and well that's what some do and it can fail miserably. He has decided on his own to keep the wing t based on what he's seen in watching video of past years and what he knows so far. Danaher always said if an applicant is asked what kind of offense he plans to run and responds with anything other than 'I'll decide after I evaluate the talent" than pass on him immediately. That is what our focus groups and the community all collectively agreed upon. We didn't want someone coming in with their own agenda without knowing that we don't have the type of athletes to run a full spread offense. Stop making this out to be more than what it is. Then why hire a damn search committee? If y'all want to stay in the Wing-T, there's plenty of those coaches around. Listen, I think Calallen made a good hire, but if outsiders are going to meddle with him, it could very well backfire on y'all. Alice had that with their previous coach. Castellano came in and made it clear he was going to do things his way. I guess if Reeve is happy using some Wing-T and has the coaches that can utilize it, good for y'all. It makes no sense. Hire a search committee who hires a Spread coach then have him come in and feel forced to keep the Wing-t lol. Calallen should have just hired the best Wing-t coach available all on their own. No search committee needed.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 29, 2024 18:25:45 GMT -6
Coach Reeve and his pedigree are offensive geniuses. I'm sure Calallen will be happy with the results!
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Post by sotex on Apr 29, 2024 18:49:36 GMT -6
Y'all are missing the point. We wanted a coach who WILL evaluate the personnel and decide what to do. We didn't want a coach who was going to come in and change it all just because he can without evaluating the talent. You know good and well that's what some do and it can fail miserably. He has decided on his own to keep the wing t based on what he's seen in watching video of past years and what he knows so far. Danaher always said if an applicant is asked what kind of offense he plans to run and responds with anything other than 'I'll decide after I evaluate the talent" than pass on him immediately. That is what our focus groups and the community all collectively agreed upon. We didn't want someone coming in with their own agenda without knowing that we don't have the type of athletes to run a full spread offense. Stop making this out to be more than what it is. You're taking offensive advice from a coach that never in 40 years tried to develop the forward pass? Good luck with that. You didn't want a coach coming in with their own agenda? lmfao. How dare a coach have his agenda and not the agenda of calallen superfans who think they should have input on what offense he runs. )Luckily for you guys you're Calallen and gonna win regardless because you superfans are clearly setting up this new guy for failure even though that's not your intentions. Totally agree on the bolded especially. You[Calallen] hired a coach that was the best available according to the 'search committee'. Let him do his job.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Apr 30, 2024 5:19:32 GMT -6
You're taking offensive advice from a coach that never in 40 years tried to develop the forward pass? Good luck with that. You didn't want a coach coming in with their own agenda? lmfao. How dare a coach have his agenda and not the agenda of calallen superfans who think they should have input on what offense he runs. )Luckily for you guys you're Calallen and gonna win regardless because you superfans are clearly setting up this new guy for failure even though that's not your intentions. Totally agree on the bolded especially. You[Calallen] hired a coach that was the best available according to the 'search committee'. Let him do his job. I honestly like the hire but only time will tell. He definitely has the pedigree and that I think is important for sure. I also think that last year was the first year VE showed a bit more stability and I think improved as the season went along. They were playing well at the end of the regular season with the two wins over CCVM and VW. As far as the talk about a coach adjusting his offensive to the talent he has goes............if a HS coach isn't doing that he probably isn't much of a coach to begin with. lmao It isn't college where you can bring in the kids you need to run a specific thing each year. Hell, even good college coaches adjust yearly to their strengths and away from their weaknesses. I think you mentioned a couple posts earlier about how you can indeed run out of the spread offense and that couldn't be more true. No different than you can throw out of a wing offense as well. I'm betting we will see a Calallen offense that still is heavier on the run side but will pass a bit more in the future and maybe be a lot better at doing it than what they have been in recent years. In the games I watched last year it almost hurt to watch them try and throw the ball when they had to.
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Post by chiller15 on Apr 30, 2024 6:25:20 GMT -6
If Calallen doesn't have a QB, Coach Reeve has some young ones coming up that will probably play that position. Keep your eyes on that youngest one........
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Post by raidercatphenomsmellmyown on Apr 30, 2024 8:25:51 GMT -6
I’ve watched the Cal 9th grade games on YouTube. From what I see they have the kids coming up to run a spread and run it well. That group will do some real good things.
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Post by picodegallo on Apr 30, 2024 8:37:07 GMT -6
As someone who sat in on some of the brainstorming and the such and filled out the survey during our search, I can assure you that no one spoke up and said the new coach can do this, this and this, but can't do that.
Most of requests if you will was for someone to come in who will respect our traditions, but who would indeed have some new ideas to ADD to the program and not take away from it. One of the questions might have been in the survey was something like "Do you want a Coach who plays to the programs strengths?" But it didn't have a follow up that asked if that was an absolute must or rank it in priority.
We need some youthful enthusiasm. He fills this void nicely especially after last year where it was non existent on the sidelines. There are certain things that need to be refined and reinforced. One thing I've heard is little things like weight training feel out of date compared to what others are doing (IE more of circuit or Cross Fit like vs traditional stations). Good..... change that if it gets the kids more engaged and the results are just as good or better.
Another thing is he's actually going to put some some stock in 7 on 7. Might be too late this spring/summer, but he's going to put more emphasis on it vs where it has been on our priority list which is almost nil right now. Again, the kids like this stuff. Some of us old schoolers see it as maybe time utilized somewhere else, but if it gets the kids pumped about something and they put in the work. Let's go! Does that mean Calallen this fall is going to become an air raid type offense or any other time down the road? Probably not. But it does show Reeve is interested in making the pass game more of a factor in the offense.
One thing I want to just put to bed is this nonsense Calallen fans are not going to give him a chance and the space he needs. Sure you have a few idiots out there who will be the first to say "see we told you so." But Alice has those. GP has those. TM might have one or two... Every school has an arm chair QB or two who would look like fools if they ever had to coach even a pee wee Pop Warner game.
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