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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 10, 2023 22:44:11 GMT -6
I just looked.
The SA Southside/Southwest/Legacy/Medina Valley/etc District is currently a 9-team district. UIL will probably send 3 of those teams south and make two 6-team districts.
Possibly just send 2 of those teams south because Victoria has one 5A school.
Our district will probably be: Vets Flour Bluff Carroll Victoria West Southside South San
And the SA district will keep the other 7 teams.
The R3 teams will stay in R3.
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Post by pncakeman on Nov 11, 2023 0:51:51 GMT -6
Unless they opt up - Winn, Southside and South San are all going to go 5A DII. Medina Valley has 6A numbers.
That would leave Cigarroa, Martin, Nixon, Southwest, Legacy with Vets, Bluff (maybe Carroll) in a District 14-5A that is no different than the overmatched district Vets is in now, leaving 13-5A open for current Region III teams. Unlikely UIL would have Laredo in a district with Victoria. That means West could go back toward Houston in Region III.
If the current District 12-5A moves into region IV, I'm pretty sure they'd be favored to sweep the Laredo/SA/CC district in the first round, like 14-5A did tonight.
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Post by mike03car on Nov 11, 2023 2:05:04 GMT -6
2290 and up for 6A would keep Longview in 5a D1 (turned in 2280) as well as Aledo (2267)
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 11, 2023 8:35:38 GMT -6
Unless they opt up - Winn, Southside and South San are all going to go 5A DII. Medina Valley has 6A numbers. That would leave Cigarroa, Martin, Nixon, Southwest, Legacy with Vets, Bluff (maybe Carroll) in a District 14-5A that is no different than the overmatched district Vets is in now, leaving 13-5A open for current Region III teams. Unlikely UIL would have Laredo in a district with Victoria. That means West could go back toward Houston in Region III. If the current District 12-5A moves into region IV, I'm pretty sure they'd be favored to sweep the Laredo/SA/CC district in the first round, like 14-5A did tonight. Haven’t looked at it real closely. But yeah, if the current 13-5A1 is losing more than 2 teams, then 12-5A1 will have teams moving back into R4. If 13-5A1 remains pretty much intact (with opt-ups), those R3 teams stay put.
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Post by butchdog on Nov 11, 2023 18:40:56 GMT -6
2024 - 2025 Cut Off #'s (for now) 6A ---2290 and up -- 249 schools 5A ---2289 - 1340 -- 257 4A ---1339 - 530 -- 209 3A --- 529 - 275 -- 202 2A --- 274 - 105 ---221 1A --- 104.9 - 5A-1 --- 2289 - 1860 -- 132 schools 5A-2 --- 1859 - 1340 -- 125 4A-1 --- 1339 - 900 -- 107 4A-2 --- 899 - 530 -- 102 3A-1 --- 529 - 370 -- 102 3A-2 --- 369 - 275 -- 100 2A-1 --- 274 - 195 -- 107 2A-2 --- 194 - 105 -- 114 1A --- 104.9 These cutoffs will make - - CC Vet Mem ---- 2014 - 5A-1 - Flour Bluff --- 1963 - 5A-1 - CC Carroll ---- 1883 - 5A-1 - Greg Portland - 1500 - 5A-2 - CC Ray (1713)----NA- - 5A-2 - CC Miller ----- 1397 - 5A-2 - CC King ------- 1362 - 5A-2 (4A-1) - CC Moody ------ 1332 - 4A-1 - Victoria East - 2015 - 5A-1 - Victoria West - 1843 - 5A-2
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Post by butchdog on Nov 12, 2023 14:11:45 GMT -6
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Post by rtxc1 on Nov 12, 2023 20:52:27 GMT -6
What are your cut-offs at? You're the one that runs the reclassification thread right? I need CC Carroll in 5A2. I am leaning towards 1300-2279 for 5A and 2080+ for 6A. The divisional cutoff could be around 1870. I just put in a ton of public information requests, so hopefully they will come through soon and we can get some important snapshots to fill in the gaps.
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Post by warcat82 on Nov 13, 2023 9:09:52 GMT -6
I hope for the sake of region 4 credibility SV, Wagner, CP, GT, and all those schools get to come back in as district 13 or a combo of district 13 and 14. Spread the arse whoopins out over 2 districts that way... but let one of them include a district that has cc vets in it...
I would like to see Carroll go D2 so they could get some success even if they have to start as a 4th seed a fee times, that would boost those boys confidence like it has at TM. They need to learn to win again like TM is doing with the easy schedule.
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 9:16:07 GMT -6
I hope for the sake of region 4 credibility SV, Wagner, CP, GT, and all those schools get to come back in as district 13 or a combo of district 13 and 14. Spread the arse whoopins out over 2 districts that way... but let one of them include a district that has cc vets in it... I would like to see Carroll go D2 so they could get some success even if they have to start as a 4th seed a fee times, that would boost those boys confidence like it has at TM. They need to learn to win again like TM is doing with the easy schedule. Definitely hoping for D2 for my son's senior season at Carroll. But if not, hoping for the southern current District 13 schools to come down and join Carroll, Vets, and FB. We just aren't quite there yet. Next season, we'd probably still fall just a hair short in the current District 14... so a shake-up is welcomed. As an aside- I fully expected 2023 to have a significant dropoff compared to 2022... and the staff/players kept it even at 5-5. Great job by the coaches to keep the momentum last year's seniors started. This group was much less talented, and still managed to not have a losing record. 2024 should see is substantially better Carroll team than the 2023 version. So I'm optimistic that a playoff spot is coming!
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 13, 2023 9:23:05 GMT -6
I hope for the sake of region 4 credibility SV, Wagner, CP, GT, and all those schools get to come back in as district 13 or a combo of district 13 and 14. Spread the arse whoopins out over 2 districts that way... but let one of them include a district that has cc vets in it... I would like to see Carroll go D2 so they could get some success even if they have to start as a 4th seed a fee times, that would boost those boys confidence like it has at TM. They need to learn to win again like TM is doing with the easy schedule. Definitely hoping for D2 for my son's senior season at Carroll. But if not, hoping for the southern current District 13 schools to come down and join Carroll, Vets, and FB. We just aren't quite there yet. Next season, we'd probably still fall just a hair short in the current District 14... so a shake-up is welcomed. As an aside- I fully expected 2023 to have a significant dropoff compared to 2022... and the staff/players kept it even at 5-5. Great job by the coaches to keep the momentum last year's seniors started. This group was much less talented, and still managed to not have a losing record. 2024 should see is substantially better Carroll team than the 2023 version. So I'm optimistic that a playoff spot is coming! I hope Carroll does get to the playoffs to. But, if they stay D1 and get put in a district with Wagner, SV, Champion, CCVM, and VW, it probably isn't going to happen.
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 9:29:33 GMT -6
Definitely hoping for D2 for my son's senior season at Carroll. But if not, hoping for the southern current District 13 schools to come down and join Carroll, Vets, and FB. We just aren't quite there yet. Next season, we'd probably still fall just a hair short in the current District 14... so a shake-up is welcomed. As an aside- I fully expected 2023 to have a significant dropoff compared to 2022... and the staff/players kept it even at 5-5. Great job by the coaches to keep the momentum last year's seniors started. This group was much less talented, and still managed to not have a losing record. 2024 should see is substantially better Carroll team than the 2023 version. So I'm optimistic that a playoff spot is coming! I hope Carroll does get to the playoffs to. But, if they stay D1 and get put in a district with Wagner, SV, Champion, CCVM, and VW, it probably isn't going to happen. I surely agree with that. In that district it would probably never happen.
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 9:33:17 GMT -6
Definitely hoping for D2 for my son's senior season at Carroll. But if not, hoping for the southern current District 13 schools to come down and join Carroll, Vets, and FB. We just aren't quite there yet. Next season, we'd probably still fall just a hair short in the current District 14... so a shake-up is welcomed. As an aside- I fully expected 2023 to have a significant dropoff compared to 2022... and the staff/players kept it even at 5-5. Great job by the coaches to keep the momentum last year's seniors started. This group was much less talented, and still managed to not have a losing record. 2024 should see is substantially better Carroll team than the 2023 version. So I'm optimistic that a playoff spot is coming! I hope Carroll does get to the playoffs to. But, if they stay D1 and get put in a district with Wagner, SV, Champion, CCVM, and VW, it probably isn't going to happen. And honestly, I just can't foresee any CC team ever paired up in a district with current R3 teams in northern SA/New Braunfels/southern Austin. There's an entire 9-team district in southern SA/Laredo in between the 2 areas.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Nov 13, 2023 9:51:18 GMT -6
I hope Carroll does get to the playoffs to. But, if they stay D1 and get put in a district with Wagner, SV, Champion, CCVM, and VW, it probably isn't going to happen. And honestly, I just can't foresee any CC team ever paired up in a district with current R3 teams in northern SA/New Braunfels/southern Austin. There's an entire 9-team district in southern SA/Laredo in between the 2 areas. Yes, that is already a 9 team district. If the current Dist 12 schools get moved back into R4 where they belong, they will for sure lose NBC to 6a and have room for additional schools in it. King and Carroll were moved into a district with us, Judson, Clemens, & EC a few years back if you remember. IMO, it makes a lot more sense for CC area to travel to SA and SA to travel to CC then it does for CC to travel to the RGV! It is a very, very easy 2 hour drive up and down IH37!
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Post by ccwarcat on Nov 13, 2023 10:00:30 GMT -6
And honestly, I just can't foresee any CC team ever paired up in a district with current R3 teams in northern SA/New Braunfels/southern Austin. There's an entire 9-team district in southern SA/Laredo in between the 2 areas. Yes, that is already a 9 team district. If the current Dist 12 schools get moved back into R4 where they belong, they will for sure lose NBC to 6a and have room for additional schools in it. King and Carroll were moved into a district with us, Judson, Clemens, & EC a few years back if you remember. IMO, it makes a lot more sense for CC area to travel to SA and SA to travel to CC then it does for CC to travel to the RGV! It is a very, very easy 2 hour drive up and down IH37! I think CC will probably go north... but there's just too many schools in between for say NBC or SV to end up with FB or CC Vets.
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Post by BandidoNB on Nov 13, 2023 22:56:08 GMT -6
Well it looks like New Braunfels has entered the conversion. I’ve mostly been ignoring 5A realignment scenarios since they were irrelevant to me, but I better start getting my feet wet in it again.
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