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Post by FB fan on Jul 21, 2023 12:41:53 GMT -6
Which would include anytime a team is starting a junior or any class QB which would make your junior QB success rate example nonsense. Mimms was hurt is junior year. He played his senior year like he was on a mission Like I already said you’re dealing with high school kids. Things that change are constant. That's right he got hurt vs Rockport-Fulton.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 21, 2023 12:46:04 GMT -6
Which would include anytime a team is starting a junior or any class QB which would make your junior QB success rate example nonsense. Not really. Can we agree that most teams field more total seniors then they do any other class? Which has nothing to do with your claim QBs perform better as juniors than as seniors generally. Just admit you are wrong.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 21, 2023 13:49:45 GMT -6
Not really. Can we agree that most teams field more total seniors then they do any other class? Which has nothing to do with your claim QBs perform better as juniors than as seniors generally. Just admit you are wrong. I’m taking it that you agree? In that case, I’ll explain why I’m not wrong. Think about this: You are starting qb as a junior. On your line there are 3 seniors, you have a senior running back next to you and 3 of your receivers are seniors. 7 total seniors are on starting offense (about typical for most teams). Everyone else is a junior or sophomore. You have several junior classmates that come off the sideline every once in awhile or for mop-up duty. Your junior classmates that aren’t starting are good, just not good enough to claim the jobs outright this season. You go on to have a great year with your senior starters. Now it’s the following year. Your junior buddies that didn’t quite earn the jobs last season are now seniors with you… and almost by default, they are the best the team has to offer… so they are now the starters. But remember. They didn’t claim those jobs outright last season. Yes they can improve this season to be just as good as the departing seniors… but if they were very good, they’d have been starting with you as juniors. Basically, they were “b team” juniors last season. So yes, you are surrounded by better talent when you’re the starting qb your junior season.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 21, 2023 15:03:27 GMT -6
Which has nothing to do with your claim QBs perform better as juniors than as seniors generally. Just admit you are wrong. I’m taking it that you agree? In that case, I’ll explain why I’m not wrong. Think about this: You are starting qb as a junior. On your line there are 3 seniors, you have a senior running back next to you and 3 of your receivers are seniors. 7 total seniors are on starting offense (about typical for most teams). Everyone else is a junior or sophomore. You have several junior classmates that come off the sideline every once in awhile or for mop-up duty. Your junior classmates that aren’t starting are good, just not good enough to claim the jobs outright this season. You go on to have a great year with your senior starters. Now it’s the following year. Your junior buddies that didn’t quite earn the jobs last season are now seniors with you… and almost by default, they are the best the team has to offer… so they are now the starters. But remember. They didn’t claim those jobs outright last season. Yes they can improve this season to be just as good as the departing seniors… but if they were very good, they’d have been starting with you as juniors. Basically, they were “b team” juniors last season. So yes, you are surrounded by better talent when you’re the starting qb your junior season. PURE BS
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 21, 2023 15:36:07 GMT -6
Which has nothing to do with your claim QBs perform better as juniors than as seniors generally. Just admit you are wrong. I’m taking it that you agree? In that case, I’ll explain why I’m not wrong. Think about this: You are starting qb as a junior. On your line there are 3 seniors, you have a senior running back next to you and 3 of your receivers are seniors. 7 total seniors are on starting offense (about typical for most teams). Everyone else is a junior or sophomore. You have several junior classmates that come off the sideline every once in awhile or for mop-up duty. Your junior classmates that aren’t starting are good, just not good enough to claim the jobs outright this season. You go on to have a great year with your senior starters. Now it’s the following year. Your junior buddies that didn’t quite earn the jobs last season are now seniors with you… and almost by default, they are the best the team has to offer… so they are now the starters. But remember. They didn’t claim those jobs outright last season. Yes they can improve this season to be just as good as the departing seniors… but if they were very good, they’d have been starting with you as juniors. Basically, they were “b team” juniors last season. So yes, you are surrounded by better talent when you’re the starting qb your junior season. Not sure compared to what? You just love rabbit holes
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 21, 2023 17:42:19 GMT -6
I’m taking it that you agree? In that case, I’ll explain why I’m not wrong. Think about this: You are starting qb as a junior. On your line there are 3 seniors, you have a senior running back next to you and 3 of your receivers are seniors. 7 total seniors are on starting offense (about typical for most teams). Everyone else is a junior or sophomore. You have several junior classmates that come off the sideline every once in awhile or for mop-up duty. Your junior classmates that aren’t starting are good, just not good enough to claim the jobs outright this season. You go on to have a great year with your senior starters. Now it’s the following year. Your junior buddies that didn’t quite earn the jobs last season are now seniors with you… and almost by default, they are the best the team has to offer… so they are now the starters. But remember. They didn’t claim those jobs outright last season. Yes they can improve this season to be just as good as the departing seniors… but if they were very good, they’d have been starting with you as juniors. Basically, they were “b team” juniors last season. So yes, you are surrounded by better talent when you’re the starting qb your junior season. Not sure compared to what? You just love rabbit holes Here’s a different analogy. Where you’re starting as a Junior, it’s the same as “playing up a grade” in youth football or even middle school. You have at your disposal an entire class of kids that are a grade older (presumably better) than your class. Obviously, your entire class can improve to be just as good or even better than the departing class in your senior season. But you already have them now… and if your classmates were already at that level, they’d be on the field with you as juniors (and even better with you as seniors). To have an absolutely stacked team… well that would be a team of multi-year starters in their senior season together… much like PSJA North this season. That’s a team that was already a regional qualifier last season. They’re going to be a problem for any team they face.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 21, 2023 17:59:16 GMT -6
Not sure compared to what? You just love rabbit holes Here’s a different analogy. Where you’re starting as a Junior, it’s the same as “playing up a grade” in youth football or even middle school. You have at your disposal an entire class of kids that are a grade older (presumably better) than your class. Obviously, your entire class can improve to be just as good or even better than the departing class in your senior season. But you already have them now… and if your classmates were already at that level, they’d be on the field with you as juniors (and even better with you as seniors). To have an absolutely stacked team… well that would be a team of multi-year starters in their senior season together… much like PSJA North this season. That’s a team that was already a regional qualifier last season. They’re going to be a problem for any team they face. For the last time that also has zero to do with a QB being better as a junior than the next year as a senior like you claimed was often the case.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 21, 2023 18:10:31 GMT -6
Here’s a different analogy. Where you’re starting as a Junior, it’s the same as “playing up a grade” in youth football or even middle school. You have at your disposal an entire class of kids that are a grade older (presumably better) than your class. Obviously, your entire class can improve to be just as good or even better than the departing class in your senior season. But you already have them now… and if your classmates were already at that level, they’d be on the field with you as juniors (and even better with you as seniors). To have an absolutely stacked team… well that would be a team of multi-year starters in their senior season together… much like PSJA North this season. That’s a team that was already a regional qualifier last season. They’re going to be a problem for any team they face. For the last time that also has zero to do with a QB being better as a junior than the next year as a senior like you claimed was often the case. It is the case sometimes, no doubt. I’m just trying to reason out why.
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 21, 2023 18:58:07 GMT -6
For the last time that also has zero to do with a QB being better as a junior than the next year as a senior like you claimed was often the case. It is the case sometimes, no doubt. I’m just trying to reason out why. Dude. REALLY? He’s been the QB as a sophomore. Maybe your reasoning and analogy is a bit week
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Post by airhorn rat on Jul 22, 2023 13:55:24 GMT -6
your logic is flawed. it suffers from generalization fallacy. the notion of predicting an outcome based on too few examples.
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Post by wfcoyote on Jul 22, 2023 16:55:04 GMT -6
Keep a eye on the Taft QB.
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 22, 2023 17:11:43 GMT -6
Keep a eye on the Taft QB. Maybe you put this under the Taft tab?
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 23, 2023 8:28:43 GMT -6
Keep a eye on the Taft QB. Oh I’m sure he’ll light it up. With the 3A competition in South Texas what it is, a good qb/wr combo could go for 3k yards alone. Total passing over 4k in the season… maybe over 6k for the year if they play enough playoff games. At least half of the 3A teams around here have maybe 1 guy on defense running under a 4.7. When you’re throwing against a bunch of db’s that run 4.8’s, you’re going to put up some huge numbers (if you’re a good qb and you have at least 1 good receiver). Which brings up an interesting concept… What if a group of great players decided to pick a nearby small town to play for, moved there, and played?
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 23, 2023 8:53:06 GMT -6
Keep a eye on the Taft QB. Oh I’m sure he’ll light it up. With the 3A competition in South Texas what it is, a good qb/wr combo could go for 3k yards alone. Total passing over 4k in the season… maybe over 6k for the year if they play enough playoff games. At least half of the 3A teams around here have maybe 1 guy on defense running under a 4.7. When you’re throwing against a bunch of db’s that run 4.8’s, you’re going to put up some huge numbers (if you’re a good qb and you have at least 1 good receiver). Which brings up an interesting concept… What if a group of great players decided to pick a nearby small town to play for, moved there, and played? Refugio gets those guys every year. I know three different parents that have moved them there just because they want their kids noticed. Let’s do move along. This is an FB thread
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Post by gp37 on Jul 23, 2023 12:50:48 GMT -6
FB had a very good QB years ago and I thought he got a scolie to Sam Houston. Seems like he was pretty tall. What ever happened to him
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