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Post by ccwarcat on Aug 9, 2022 19:35:54 GMT -6
These are the kinds of comments that show how little you know about HSFB outside of Corpus Christi, TX! There is absolutely no team in R4 5a D1 that is going to come close to the best R3 has. No team in this region has the horses to compete at that level this year. EDIT: There are 15 teams in R3 better than than the best team in R4 this year. Book that! As it stands today, CCVM is probably the favorite to win the region and CCVM 2022 is not going to be nearly the team they had in 2020 with 3 returning starters on the offense. That team didn't come close against CP that year and had CP not been sleep walking in the 1st half you would have had another 2019 Wagner type game on your hands! At least Wagner's 24 point loss in 2018 came at the hands of a 16-0 state champion that only Richmond Foster and Denton Ryan came closer to beating all year! Not according to the Tep and Stepp Podcast. Vets is not even in the region finals game. And Vets wouldn't make the playoffs in district 11 5A 1. Well let’s just cancel the season then! The talking heads have spoken!! Lol
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Post by CalallenTiger54 on Aug 9, 2022 19:46:05 GMT -6
Shouldn’t this conversation be in the Veterans Memorial 2022 thread? Lol!
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Post by raidercatphenomsmellmyown on Aug 9, 2022 20:42:20 GMT -6
Vela is winning this region mark it!
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Post by sotex on Aug 9, 2022 21:47:33 GMT -6
Vela is winning this region mark it! I agree. I do think they will get spanked in the region finals. Before someone comes on here and says "yeah but they badass in 6A", they were out by the 2nd or 3rd round in the playoffs.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 10, 2022 6:26:06 GMT -6
Shouldn’t this conversation be in the Veterans Memorial 2022 thread? Lol! Bro, once you've been here for a little while you will see that ccwarcat will insert CCVM into damn near any thread on here comparing them to the greatest of the great programs all time in the coastal bend and S TX!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 7:25:16 GMT -6
Vela is winning this region mark it! I agree. I do think they will get spanked in the region finals. Before someone comes on here and says "yeah but they badass in 6A", they were out by the 2nd or 3rd round in the playoffs. Vela will make it to and lose in round 5 if they have one of their typical 12-1 type teams from 6A but they won't get spanked the way our last 2 representatives did. I don't think everyone realizes the HUGE difference between elite 6A teams and elite 5A teams. I'm not saying Vela will get to round 5 and have a 7 point contest with whoever they play but it won't be 70 something to almost nothing.
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Post by raidercatphenomsmellmyown on Aug 10, 2022 7:54:30 GMT -6
I agree. I do think they will get spanked in the region finals. Before someone comes on here and says "yeah but they badass in 6A", they were out by the 2nd or 3rd round in the playoffs. Vela will make it to and lose in round 5 if they have one of their typical 12-1 type teams from 6A but they won't get spanked the way our last 2 representatives did. I don't think everyone realizes the HUGE difference between elite 6A teams and elite 5A teams. I'm not saying Vela will get to round 5 and have a 7 point contest with whoever they play but it won't be 70 something to almost nothing. I would agree with this. They won’t be playing an Austin Westlake for sure.
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Post by picodegallo on Aug 10, 2022 7:59:43 GMT -6
Vela will make it to and lose in round 5 if they have one of their typical 12-1 type teams from 6A but they won't get spanked the way our last 2 representatives did. I don't think everyone realizes the HUGE difference between elite 6A teams and elite 5A teams. I'm not saying Vela will get to round 5 and have a 7 point contest with whoever they play but it won't be 70 something to almost nothing. I would agree with this. They won’t be playing an Austin Westlake for sure. Yep. The elite valley teams have always hit that buzz saw Westlake or Lake Travis in 6A as of late. They certainly have nothing to fear playing a CC Vets in the region finals.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 10, 2022 8:16:44 GMT -6
I agree. I do think they will get spanked in the region finals. Before someone comes on here and says "yeah but they badass in 6A", they were out by the 2nd or 3rd round in the playoffs. Vela will make it to and lose in round 5 if they have one of their typical 12-1 type teams from 6A but they won't get spanked the way our last 2 representatives did. I don't think everyone realizes the HUGE difference between elite 6A teams and elite 5A teams. I'm not saying Vela will get to round 5 and have a 7 point contest with whoever they play but it won't be 70 something to almost nothing. I agree with this and I honestly don't think whoever makes it to round 5 gets that kind of spanking again. Unless R3 sends another 6a D1 team disguised as a 5a D1! I will say this about Vela, they will be very, very well coached and they will not have any quit in them. Campbell will make sure of that! They have played some solid 6a SA schools close the last few years so depending how many kids they lost to drop down to 5a they should be a damn good game for either Miller or CCVM. I honestly don't see anyone besides those 3 in the semis from R4 this year.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 10, 2022 8:31:08 GMT -6
I would agree with this. They won’t be playing an Austin Westlake for sure. Yep. The elite valley teams have always hit that buzz saw Westlake or Lake Travis in 6A as of late. They certainly have nothing to fear playing a CC Vets in the region finals. Yup They have only been a varsity program for about 10 years now and have made the playoffs the last 8 years. John Campbell got there in 2017 and they have stepped up their game to a new level since then as well going 9-5 in the playoffs in that time and beat a solid SA Taft team last year in the 2nd round. Here is who Vela has lost to in the playoffs 2014-2021 below in the playoffs: 45-61 Victoria West 39-49 Vandegrift 28-31 Weslaco East 14-70 Westlake 0-28 Westlake 14-21 SA Brandeis 3-28 SA Brennan 14-38 Vandegrift
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Post by ccwarcat on Aug 10, 2022 8:51:05 GMT -6
I would agree with this. They won’t be playing an Austin Westlake for sure. Yep. The elite valley teams have always hit that buzz saw Westlake or Lake Travis in 6A as of late. They certainly have nothing to fear playing a CC Vets in the region finals. It’s a collision course… and the game I’ve wanted for Vets for awhile now when asked for my “wish” game. Miller might have a say, too.
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Post by ccwarcat on Aug 10, 2022 8:53:45 GMT -6
Yep. The elite valley teams have always hit that buzz saw Westlake or Lake Travis in 6A as of late. They certainly have nothing to fear playing a CC Vets in the region finals. Yup They have only been a varsity program for about 10 years now and have made the playoffs the last 8 years. John Campbell got there in 2017 and they have stepped up their game to a new level since then as well going 9-5 in the playoffs in that time and beat a solid SA Taft team last year in the 2nd round. Here is who Vela has lost to in the playoffs 2014-2021 below in the playoffs: 45-61 Victoria West 39-49 Vandegrift 28-31 Weslaco East 14-70 Westlake 0-28 Westlake 14-21 SA Brandeis 3-28 SA Brennan 14-38 Vandegrift I’d like everyone to remember that many (maybe all) on this board are very high on Edinburg Vela… including posting relatively close playoff losses as evidence of how good they are. We should sticky these few posts because they’ll be really important later this fall.
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Post by CalallenTiger54 on Aug 10, 2022 9:17:37 GMT -6
Do Vela and CC Vets have any common opponents in the last 5 years?
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 10, 2022 9:25:00 GMT -6
Yup They have only been a varsity program for about 10 years now and have made the playoffs the last 8 years. John Campbell got there in 2017 and they have stepped up their game to a new level since then as well going 9-5 in the playoffs in that time and beat a solid SA Taft team last year in the 2nd round. Here is who Vela has lost to in the playoffs 2014-2021 below in the playoffs: 45-61 Victoria West 39-49 Vandegrift 28-31 Weslaco East 14-70 Westlake 0-28 Westlake 14-21 SA Brandeis 3-28 SA Brennan 14-38 Vandegrift I’d like everyone to remember that many (maybe all) on this board are very high on Edinburg Vela… including posting relatively close playoff losses as evidence of how good they are. We should sticky these few posts because they’ll be really important later this fall. Bro, where do you read the stuff you do into the posts you see? Nobody is saying that Vela are world beaters. Simply saying they've been a solid 6a program since Campbell got there in 2017. THey were blown out by Vandegrift last year and by SA Brennan the year before. Westlake beat Vandegrift 70-7 last year right after Vandy beat Vela by 24 points! And SA Brennan lost to Vandegrift in 2020 the next week after beating Vela and that Vandy team was blown out in the regional finals by Hays Consolidated. Just stop it with your made up dream world man. Here are Vela's playoff wins since 2017 when Campbell took over with that team's record to the right and who else they lost to that year. Please show me which one of those wins makes them some powerhouse team. 34-32 Hanna (7-4 other to Economedes, san Benito, & Weslaco East) 28-10 Eagle Pass (9-3 other to Medina Valley, & Laredo United)52-14 Harlingen South (4-7 other losses to Edinburg, Weslaco, Odessa, San Benito, Harlingen, & Hanna) 65-0 Laredo Alexander (9-3 other losses to SA Roosevelt & Laredo United) 42-35 Harlingen (9-2 other loss was to Judson 0-39) 45-21 Eagle Pass (7-5 other losses to Uvalde, Laredo United, United South, Alexander) 38-33 Weslaco (3-2 other loss was to Harlingen) 17-7 San Benito (8-3 other losses to Harlingen South & Harlingen) 27-24 SA Taft (9-3 other losses to brennan & O'Conner) Vela has not beat any top ranked teams from north of them at all in 6a. Their best PO win was SA Taft last year. JUST STOP It doesn't make a damn bit of difference who CCVM beats this year in R4 because ANYBODY that knows HSFB realizes it is as week a region as there is in ANY CLASSIFICATION.
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Post by ccwarcat on Aug 10, 2022 9:41:53 GMT -6
Do Vela and CC Vets have any common opponents in the last 5 years? That's a great question... let me look into it.
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