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Post by Hounhound on Jul 19, 2022 17:10:55 GMT -6
Vets has the advantage of open enrollment(now closed), weak district, and weak playoff opponents. Previously when Carroll was the strongest team in Corpus, they had a tougher district. San Antonio schools were in the district sometimes and there was one less high in Corpus to draw talent away from the other schools. The games between King, Ray, and Carroll were much more competitive. Then whoever won the district would end up playing a San Antonio team within two games of the playoffs. Look at the year Vets played Wagner. Wagner student population size was similar to Vets. They also had athletes. Vets managed to stay down and in 5a and took advantage of it with a weaker district and playoff opponents. Nothing wrong with it just the facts. You don’t have to look to Round 4 against Wagner to find an SA playoff opponent for Vets. There are SA Vets, SA Harlan, SA Southwest, and SA Southwest Legacy…. All in Round 2 or 3… and all CC Vets wins. If that’s not good enough, you can also find SA Churchill in the regular season, twice… both Vets wins too. None of them give Vet's a signature win they can build off of. None of them are world beaters.
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 19, 2022 17:24:30 GMT -6
I wasn’t attacking Vets at all. In my opinion they’re the team to beat. Vets, GP, Bluff, and Calallen are the best teams down here. There are advantages to being in South Texas. Look at Calallen, their bi district games have always been against a valley teams . Same as Vets though, when you go north and East it gets tough. I think Wagner is back down in 5a, curious to see how that is going to play out. I’m not positive on this but those San Antonio south side schools aren’t perennial powers. Sorry about that. By your post count I’m assuming you’re new here. For about 5 years straight… maybe more… this whole forum is all about bashing Vets and CCISD. I’m out here alone… slaying away like a samurai. Sorry for the collateral damage. Lol I think you might want to start directing your responses to the individual. Most of us are directing our responses to your highly opinionated post. Also no one agrees with the opt ups. Post against Vets are really post against your over the top comments. I have nothing against teams in CCISD just their administration. You might be surprised how many of us feel this way. Then again just my opinion
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 19, 2022 18:35:18 GMT -6
Sorry about that. By your post count I’m assuming you’re new here. For about 5 years straight… maybe more… this whole forum is all about bashing Vets and CCISD. I’m out here alone… slaying away like a samurai. Sorry for the collateral damage. Lol I think you might want to start directing your responses to the individual. Most of us are directing our responses to your highly opinionated post. Also no one agrees with the opt ups. Post against Vets are really post against your over the top comments. I have nothing against teams in CCISD just their administration. You might be surprised how many of us feel this way. Then again just my opinion Very True. If he laid off his BS comments. There'd be a lot less flack directed at Vet's. But he brings it on himself and Vet's.
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Post by CalallenTiger54 on Jul 19, 2022 18:45:16 GMT -6
Sorry about that. By your post count I’m assuming you’re new here. For about 5 years straight… maybe more… this whole forum is all about bashing Vets and CCISD. I’m out here alone… slaying away like a samurai. Sorry for the collateral damage. Lol I think you might want to start directing your responses to the individual. Most of us are directing our responses to your highly opinionated post. Also no one agrees with the opt ups. Post against Vets are really post against your over the top comments. I have nothing against teams in CCISD just their administration. You might be surprised how many of us feel this way. Then again just my opinion I We all know that CCISD, not Vets, killed the athletic programs at King and Carroll. We all kinda directed our frustration at Vets when it should have been directed at CCISD. Looks like Carroll might recover a little sooner then King for obvious reasons. I don’t think the rivalries between King, Carroll, and Ray will ever go back to what they used to be. CCISD should of let Vets grow naturally. It is what is. I don’t see as many transfers at Vets as in the past. It will somewhat balance out. Good for the other CCISD schools. When that happens you won’t see deep playoff runs by Vets. I think Vets will be like the old Carroll, always the team to beat in the district but won’t go as far as they’ve become accustomed to in the playoffs. Flour Bluff, Calallen, GP, Sinton, and maybe London will have decent playoff runs, mainly because they’re single high school districts.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 19, 2022 19:08:30 GMT -6
Dude, you cannot be serious with this again! NONE of the 5a schools you listed here have EVER done anything in the playoffs and SA Churchill has been bad, really bad outside of 2016 and even then when they made it to the regional finals they were whooped seriously bad. SA VM, Harlan, & SW Legacy have 12 total years playing varsity football when added up together and a total playoff record of 7-10 in the playoffs! SA Southwest has been around FOREVER and has NEVER been past the 3rd round of the playoffs EVER and is 12-23 overall in the playoffs. Stop acting like CCVM beat anyone good from SA because they HAVE NOT. I'm comparing CC Vets to CC Carroll now. New guy is saying CC Carroll got bumped in Round 2 because that's when they started facing SA teams. I'm telling him CC Vets has faced several SA teams in Round 2, Round 3, and Round 4 (Wagner loss)... and even in the regular season. Just another Vets attacker I'm fending off. LOL Nice try. The SA teams CCVM have played are not the SA teams Carroll faced. CCISD screwed up the region not just the district. No you're not a samurai more like kabuki.
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Post by sotex on Jul 19, 2022 19:49:50 GMT -6
I'm comparing CC Vets to CC Carroll now. New guy is saying CC Carroll got bumped in Round 2 because that's when they started facing SA teams. I'm telling him CC Vets has faced several SA teams in Round 2, Round 3, and Round 4 (Wagner loss)... and even in the regular season. Just another Vets attacker I'm fending off. LOL Nice try. The SA teams CCVM have played are not the SA teams Carroll faced. CCISD screwed up the region not just the district. No you're not a samurai more like kabuki. Bingo. If any of those teams made the playoffs, they were out after the 1st round. I still don't think this guy realizes that. Oh well you can only lead a horse to water. Sometimes you gotta shoot the horse.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 19, 2022 20:09:14 GMT -6
I'm comparing CC Vets to CC Carroll now. New guy is saying CC Carroll got bumped in Round 2 because that's when they started facing SA teams. I'm telling him CC Vets has faced several SA teams in Round 2, Round 3, and Round 4 (Wagner loss)... and even in the regular season. Just another Vets attacker I'm fending off. LOL Nice try. The SA teams CCVM have played are not the SA teams Carroll faced. CCISD screwed up the region not just the district. No you're not a samurai more like kabuki. I haven’t looked. But let’s go ahead and list the SA area teams that Carroll lost to in the playoffs. I’d like to see the facts.
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Post by CalallenTiger54 on Jul 19, 2022 20:26:31 GMT -6
Nice try. The SA teams CCVM have played are not the SA teams Carroll faced. CCISD screwed up the region not just the district. No you're not a samurai more like kabuki. I haven’t looked. But let’s go ahead and list the SA area teams that Carroll lost to in the playoffs. I’d like to see the facts. At one point I think they had Judson, East Central, and Wagner in their district.
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 19, 2022 20:37:34 GMT -6
Nice try. The SA teams CCVM have played are not the SA teams Carroll faced. CCISD screwed up the region not just the district. No you're not a samurai more like kabuki. I haven’t looked. But let’s go ahead and list the SA area teams that Carroll lost to in the playoffs. I’d like to see the facts. REALLY? You want to know about teams of the 90s? You need to understand even last year’s teams are not the same. Clem knows the teams up north much better than most of us. Not sure why you can’t see or understand teams change. Comparing past years will not work. Look how good Alice was. Go back and look at FB before 2000 or Calallen before 1984. Your administration has stacked the deck. Let see the 2022 season and see how it works out. Be realistic people will leave you alone
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 19, 2022 20:46:21 GMT -6
I haven’t looked. But let’s go ahead and list the SA area teams that Carroll lost to in the playoffs. I’d like to see the facts. REALLY? You want to know about teams of the 90s? You need to understand even last year’s teams are not the same. Clem knows the teams up north much better than most of us. Not sure why you can’t see or understand teams change. Comparing past years will not work. Look how good Alice was. Go back and look at FB before 2000 or Calallen before 1984. Your administration has stacked the deck. Let see the 2022 season and see how it works out. Be realistic people will leave you alone Eh, I welcome the razzing. And I am being realistic. 14-1 is 100% doable for 2022 Vets. Some scores might be tighter than I posted. But wins are wins. And they’re all there for the taking. There is no Flour Bluff this season. FB is the only team that posed a real threat thru the years. Vets is only 4-4 against y’all. No other team comes close to that. I think the next closest is VW at around a 25% win rate against Vets.
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 19, 2022 20:50:12 GMT -6
REALLY? You want to know about teams of the 90s? You need to understand even last year’s teams are not the same. Clem knows the teams up north much better than most of us. Not sure why you can’t see or understand teams change. Comparing past years will not work. Look how good Alice was. Go back and look at FB before 2000 or Calallen before 1984. Your administration has stacked the deck. Let see the 2022 season and see how it works out. Be realistic people will leave you alone Eh, I welcome the razzing. And I am being realistic. 14-1 is 100% doable for 2022 Vets. Some scores might be tighter than I posted. But wins are wins. And they’re all there for the taking. There is no Flour Bluff this season. FB is the only team that posed a real threat thru the years. Vets is only 4-4 against y’all. No other team comes close to that. I think the next closest is VW at around a 25% win rate against Vets. We were talking about playoff teams
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 19, 2022 20:52:55 GMT -6
Eh, I welcome the razzing. And I am being realistic. 14-1 is 100% doable for 2022 Vets. Some scores might be tighter than I posted. But wins are wins. And they’re all there for the taking. There is no Flour Bluff this season. FB is the only team that posed a real threat thru the years. Vets is only 4-4 against y’all. No other team comes close to that. I think the next closest is VW at around a 25% win rate against Vets. We were talking about playoff teams I mean look at the Region. It’s CC Vets, Edinburg Vela, and CC Miller that stand out. There’s nobody else that should pose a threat to any of these 3 teams. Heck, throw Vic West in there, too. Our district has 3 of the top 4 teams in the region. And obviously, if I think we’ll beat them in district, I think we’ll do it again in the playoffs.
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Post by FB fan on Jul 19, 2022 21:35:54 GMT -6
We were talking about playoff teams I mean look at the Region. It’s CC Vets, Edinburg Vela, and CC Miller that stand out. There’s nobody else that should pose a threat to any of these 3 teams. Heck, throw Vic West in there, too. Our district has 3 of the top 4 teams in the region. And obviously, if I think we’ll beat them in district, I think we’ll do it again in the playoffs. Holy crap he's part way there. Now finish the thought what happened to make it that way in your district and in region four? Come on you can do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2022 7:07:19 GMT -6
We were talking about playoff teams I mean look at the Region. It’s CC Vets, Edinburg Vela, and CC Miller that stand out. There’s nobody else that should pose a threat to any of these 3 teams. Heck, throw Vic West in there, too. Our district has 3 of the top 4 teams in the region. And obviously, if I think we’ll beat them in district, I think we’ll do it again in the playoffs. Only 2 offensive players return from an offense that wasn't that good to begin with and 1 of those returners is a player even you don't believe in when you admit the backup played better last year. You have nothing to base all your claims off.
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 20, 2022 10:59:37 GMT -6
Nice try. The SA teams CCVM have played are not the SA teams Carroll faced. CCISD screwed up the region not just the district. No you're not a samurai more like kabuki. I haven’t looked. But let’s go ahead and list the SA area teams that Carroll lost to in the playoffs. I’d like to see the facts. This is a perfect example. You go off saying incorrect stuff then have to backtrack because you didn't look. How about looking stuff up before opening yourself up to looking like an IDIOT.
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