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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 8, 2022 6:22:36 GMT -6
I knew it. I posted a link with no comment whatsoever. Same thing the FB guy did. Y’all are just haters. Haters gonna hate. Potaters gonna potate. 6 years of football 5 years in playoffs 14 total playoff wins Sorry bro, but if you think that is a dynasty in any way, shape or form, I've some land to sell you that is a a hell of a bargain! My kid's school has 43 wins in the playoffs since 2007 (new school in 2006) and from 2010 - 2016 they went 31-6 in the playoffs with one state title and 2 runner-ups and I don't consider them a dynasty. Were they a top 10 program in those years, probably so but that DOES NOT equal a dynasty. A dynasty is a team that wins consistently for at least a decade or more!
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Post by AledoAlumni on Jul 8, 2022 8:20:46 GMT -6
I knew it. I posted a link with no comment whatsoever. Same thing the FB guy did. Y’all are just haters. Haters gonna hate. Potaters gonna potate. 6 years of football 5 years in playoffs 14 total playoff wins Sorry bro, but if you think that is a dynasty in any way, shape or form, I've some land to sell you that is a a hell of a bargain! My kid's school has 43 wins in the playoffs since 2007 (new school in 2006) and from 2010 - 2016 they went 31-6 in the playoffs with one state title and 2 runner-ups and I don't consider them a dynasty. Were they a top 10 program in those years, probably so but that DOES NOT equal a dynasty. A dynasty is a team that wins consistently for at least a decade or more! To be fair he did the same thing Varm did. Posted something from Twitter. That's Fizz saying 5 year dynasty.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 8, 2022 9:55:10 GMT -6
I knew it. I posted a link with no comment whatsoever. Same thing the FB guy did. Y’all are just haters. Haters gonna hate. Potaters gonna potate. 6 years of football 5 years in playoffs 14 total playoff wins Sorry bro, but if you think that is a dynasty in any way, shape or form, I've some land to sell you that is a a hell of a bargain! My kid's school has 43 wins in the playoffs since 2007 (new school in 2006) and from 2010 - 2016 they went 31-6 in the playoffs with one state title and 2 runner-ups and I don't consider them a dynasty. Were they a top 10 program in those years, probably so but that DOES NOT equal a dynasty. A dynasty is a team that wins consistently for at least a decade or more! I didn’t say I thought Vets was a dynasty. Twitter did.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 8, 2022 10:08:14 GMT -6
6 years of football 5 years in playoffs 14 total playoff wins Sorry bro, but if you think that is a dynasty in any way, shape or form, I've some land to sell you that is a a hell of a bargain! My kid's school has 43 wins in the playoffs since 2007 (new school in 2006) and from 2010 - 2016 they went 31-6 in the playoffs with one state title and 2 runner-ups and I don't consider them a dynasty. Were they a top 10 program in those years, probably so but that DOES NOT equal a dynasty. A dynasty is a team that wins consistently for at least a decade or more! I didn’t say I thought Vets was a dynasty. Twitter did. I get that completely. I was just stating what I believe one to be. Chino doesn't agree with me on that for the most part but that is nothing new. lol CCVM is a solid program and deserves the recognition it is getting. For them to get more they need to step it up to the next level and at least be competitive with R3 in the next semifinals appearance. Hopefully if they reach that round this year we will see just that. I also think the ONLY way they are going to get to that level is by scheduling much better opponents in non district. I'm not saying you have to schedule Katy or North Shore but they should go out and schedule an excellent 5a D1 type team or a good 6a team or two. The district they are in will not help them get stronger.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 8, 2022 12:02:35 GMT -6
I didn’t say I thought Vets was a dynasty. Twitter did. I get that completely. I was just stating what I believe one to be. Chino doesn't agree with me on that for the most part but that is nothing new. lol CCVM is a solid program and deserves the recognition it is getting. For them to get more they need to step it up to the next level and at least be competitive with R3 in the next semifinals appearance. Hopefully if they reach that round this year we will see just that. I also think the ONLY way they are going to get to that level is by scheduling much better opponents in non district. I'm not saying you have to schedule Katy or North Shore but they should go out and schedule an excellent 5a D1 type team or a good 6a team or two. The district they are in will not help them get stronger. I agree with you, actually. And I think with continued success this season and next, those strong non-district opponents will be scheduled (it’s year one of the new schedule and deals usually last 2 years).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 12:20:44 GMT -6
I didn’t say I thought Vets was a dynasty. Twitter did. I get that completely. I was just stating what I believe one to be. Chino doesn't agree with me on that for the most part but that is nothing new. lol CCVM is a solid program and deserves the recognition it is getting. For them to get more they need to step it up to the next level and at least be competitive with R3 in the next semifinals appearance. Hopefully if they reach that round this year we will see just that. I also think the ONLY way they are going to get to that level is by scheduling much better opponents in non district. I'm not saying you have to schedule Katy or North Shore but they should go out and schedule an excellent 5a D1 type team or a good 6a team or two. The district they are in will not help them get stronger. Never argued the meaning of dynasties with you. Great teams is what I argued. You have a delusional view that a great team can only be someone that goes 16-0 and demolishes everyone. Wrong. Alice had a team in I think it was 65 that went 10-1. The 1 loss was a 7-0 loss to undefeated State Champion Austin Reagan. Your logic says that Alice team can't be considered a great team. Reality says you're full of crap.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 8, 2022 12:54:12 GMT -6
I get that completely. I was just stating what I believe one to be. Chino doesn't agree with me on that for the most part but that is nothing new. lol CCVM is a solid program and deserves the recognition it is getting. For them to get more they need to step it up to the next level and at least be competitive with R3 in the next semifinals appearance. Hopefully if they reach that round this year we will see just that. I also think the ONLY way they are going to get to that level is by scheduling much better opponents in non district. I'm not saying you have to schedule Katy or North Shore but they should go out and schedule an excellent 5a D1 type team or a good 6a team or two. The district they are in will not help them get stronger. Never argued the meaning of dynasties with you. Great teams is what I argued. You have a delusional view that a great team can only be someone that goes 16-0 and demolishes everyone. Wrong. Alice had a team in I think it was 65 that went 10-1. The 1 loss was a 7-0 loss to undefeated State Champion Austin Reagan. Your logic says that Alice team can't be considered a great team. Reality says you're full of crap. It was 1967 that Alice lost 0-7 in 1st round to that A Reagan team. Abilene Cooper lost in the finals to that Reagan team 19-20. So, I'm sure Alice had one of the better teams in the state that year but they LOST just like Cooper did. The great team that year was Austin Reagan because they found a way to beat other good teams and won it all. The reality is that maybe that Alice team was great to you and other folks from Alice. I've no problem with that at all. Maybe one of your best teams ever there in fact so I don't blame you for calling them great. And no, great to me doesn't mean 16-0 and smashing everyone along the way. Great means finishing up with the hardware whether that is 16-0 or 10-6, whether it is winning every game by 3 or more scores or winning some close ones along the way it simply doesn't matter as long as there is a W that last game. Do you think the kids that were on Steele's 2011 15-1 team thought they were great that year after the last game? I'd bet those kids on that 2011 team that also played on the 2010 team the year before thought they were greater at 14-2 in 2010 and finishing up with the hardware. To each his own Chino and I respect that you call that 1967 Alice team great.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 13:25:07 GMT -6
Never argued the meaning of dynasties with you. Great teams is what I argued. You have a delusional view that a great team can only be someone that goes 16-0 and demolishes everyone. Wrong. Alice had a team in I think it was 65 that went 10-1. The 1 loss was a 7-0 loss to undefeated State Champion Austin Reagan. Your logic says that Alice team can't be considered a great team. Reality says you're full of crap. It was 1967 that Alice lost 0-7 in 1st round to that A Reagan team. Abilene Cooper lost in the finals to that Reagan team 19-20. So, I'm sure Alice had one of the better teams in the state that year but they LOST just like Cooper did. The great team that year was Austin Reagan because they found a way to beat other good teams and won it all. The reality is that maybe that Alice team was great to you and other folks from Alice. I've no problem with that at all. Maybe one of your best teams ever there in fact so I don't blame you for calling them great. And no, great to me doesn't mean 16-0 and smashing everyone along the way. Great means finishing up with the hardware whether that is 16-0 or 10-6, whether it is winning every game by 3 or more scores or winning some close ones along the way it simply doesn't matter as long as there is a W that last game. Do you think the kids that were on Steele's 2011 15-1 team thought they were great that year after the last game? I'd bet those kids on that 2011 team that also played on the 2010 team the year before thought they were greater at 14-2 in 2010 and finishing up with the hardware. To each his own Chino and I respect that you call that 1967 Alice team great. Nope. Don't have to finish with a state title to be a great team. You don't get the concept of sometimes another team is just greatER.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 8, 2022 14:02:19 GMT -6
It was 1967 that Alice lost 0-7 in 1st round to that A Reagan team. Abilene Cooper lost in the finals to that Reagan team 19-20. So, I'm sure Alice had one of the better teams in the state that year but they LOST just like Cooper did. The great team that year was Austin Reagan because they found a way to beat other good teams and won it all. The reality is that maybe that Alice team was great to you and other folks from Alice. I've no problem with that at all. Maybe one of your best teams ever there in fact so I don't blame you for calling them great. And no, great to me doesn't mean 16-0 and smashing everyone along the way. Great means finishing up with the hardware whether that is 16-0 or 10-6, whether it is winning every game by 3 or more scores or winning some close ones along the way it simply doesn't matter as long as there is a W that last game. Do you think the kids that were on Steele's 2011 15-1 team thought they were great that year after the last game? I'd bet those kids on that 2011 team that also played on the 2010 team the year before thought they were greater at 14-2 in 2010 and finishing up with the hardware. To each his own Chino and I respect that you call that 1967 Alice team great. Nope. Don't have to finish with a state title to be a great team. You don't get the concept of sometimes another team is just greatER. I actually agree with this too. The State Title is not required for greatness in my mind. Heck, in theory, a Texas State Champion could be the 50th best team in the nation. And the 195th-ish best team in the world. And the trillionth best team in the universe. Great is a relative term.
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Post by AledoAlumni on Jul 8, 2022 14:22:35 GMT -6
Nope. Don't have to finish with a state title to be a great team. You don't get the concept of sometimes another team is just greatER. I actually agree with this too. The State Title is not required for greatness in my mind. Heck, in theory, a Texas State Champion could be the 50th best team in the nation. And the 195th-ish best team in the world. And the trillionth best team in the universe. Great is a relative term. That '67 Alice team might be great for their program history but not in txhsfb history.
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Post by ccwarcat on Jul 8, 2022 14:48:33 GMT -6
I actually agree with this too. The State Title is not required for greatness in my mind. Heck, in theory, a Texas State Champion could be the 50th best team in the nation. And the 195th-ish best team in the world. And the trillionth best team in the universe. Great is a relative term. That '67 Alice team might be great for their program history but not in txhsfb history. Agreed. That’s why great is a relative term. When talking Texas Football History… I think we can only include SC’s and possibly a handful of runner-ups.
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Post by oldcatnewhornet on Jul 8, 2022 15:16:46 GMT -6
That '67 Alice team might be great for their program history but not in txhsfb history. Agreed. That’s why great is a relative term. When talking Texas Football History… I think we can only include SC’s and possibly a handful of runner-ups. I think it’s best to say it was one of Vets best teams that year. Or whoever you’re comparing. As Clem said it’s a great team to you. Saying best, greatest, dynasties etc are not applied to a local team. I would say Aledo, Lake Travis, Katy, HP, and many many more have had some fantastic runs. When these teams are called Great they really were or are great I don’t remember the year but I believe those Calallen teams of the mid 90s were also in the category
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 8, 2022 15:23:43 GMT -6
6 years of football 5 years in playoffs 14 total playoff wins Sorry bro, but if you think that is a dynasty in any way, shape or form, I've some land to sell you that is a a hell of a bargain! My kid's school has 43 wins in the playoffs since 2007 (new school in 2006) and from 2010 - 2016 they went 31-6 in the playoffs with one state title and 2 runner-ups and I don't consider them a dynasty. Were they a top 10 program in those years, probably so but that DOES NOT equal a dynasty. A dynasty is a team that wins consistently for at least a decade or more! I didn’t say I thought Vets was a dynasty. Twitter did. You have been saying they were a Dynasty since 2018. They are the Dynasty of CCISD. That I'll give you. And you damn well know the reason why.
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 8, 2022 15:25:37 GMT -6
I get that completely. I was just stating what I believe one to be. Chino doesn't agree with me on that for the most part but that is nothing new. lol CCVM is a solid program and deserves the recognition it is getting. For them to get more they need to step it up to the next level and at least be competitive with R3 in the next semifinals appearance. Hopefully if they reach that round this year we will see just that. I also think the ONLY way they are going to get to that level is by scheduling much better opponents in non district. I'm not saying you have to schedule Katy or North Shore but they should go out and schedule an excellent 5a D1 type team or a good 6a team or two. The district they are in will not help them get stronger. I agree with you, actually. And I think with continued success this season and next, those strong non-district opponents will be scheduled (it’s year one of the new schedule and deals usually last 2 years). But you got to look at who that success is against. Where are the Threats in Vet's Schedule.
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Post by Hounhound on Jul 8, 2022 15:29:21 GMT -6
Nope. Don't have to finish with a state title to be a great team. You don't get the concept of sometimes another team is just greatER. I actually agree with this too. The State Title is not required for greatness in my mind. Heck, in theory, a Texas State Champion could be the 50th best team in the nation. And the 195th-ish best team in the world. And the trillionth best team in the universe. Great is a relative term. So beating up on the rest of CCISD qualifies. Even if EVERY ONE of them is opted up. That's what makes Vet's Great.
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