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Post by BandidoNB on Feb 23, 2022 13:27:45 GMT -6
Ok, Maybe I’m calling it the wrong school name. I thought NB Canyon was also know as Comal Canyon. Isn’t this the school that has CC on their helmets and are the Cougars? We just played them in Girls BB last night and the bracket had the name as NB Canyon. They always seem to make the football playoffs at least the have the last few years. Same school. But it can get confusing up there now because you got Canyon as in New Braunfels Canyon and Canyon Lake High up near the lake... All Comal ISD. Kind of like Judson Veterans Memorial.... No none puts the Judson in front of their name unless it's King who wanted to give them street creed like he did a few years ago.... LOL! Most just call them San Antonio Veterans Memorial... Yea as someone who has family both in NB and Canyon areas, I can tell you that the preference is for us to be called New Braunfels Canyon, because we are in New Braunfels - no one will know Comal as well as New Braunfels. What the UIL has been pulling lately makes no sense. Anyways, I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually saw a district with Canyon, SV, Pieper, Davenport and Canyon Lake all competing together. Talk about cutting down on travel.
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Post by TWolvesFan on Feb 23, 2022 15:39:36 GMT -6
Ok, Maybe I’m calling it the wrong school name. I thought NB Canyon was also know as Comal Canyon. Isn’t this the school that has CC on their helmets and are the Cougars? We just played them in Girls BB last night and the bracket had the name as NB Canyon. They always seem to make the football playoffs at least the have the last few years. Same school. But it can get confusing up there now because you got Canyon as in New Braunfels Canyon and Canyon Lake High up near the lake... All Comal ISD. Kind of like Judson Veterans Memorial.... No none puts the Judson in front of their name unless it's King who wanted to give them street creed like he did a few years ago.... LOL! Most just call them San Antonio Veterans Memorial... So with that being said and confirmed, CC Vets’ opens with a fairly tough opponent in the Canyon Cougars 5a D1 Region III District 12. Probably not going to be the top two in that district, but could be a playoff team. Definitely tougher than any of their CCISD district mates… maybe even tougher than VE & VW too! As I said previously… those Comal County boys (SV etc.) like to bring the wood when they hit, so CCVets better button it up and be ready!!
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Post by Clemensbuff on Feb 23, 2022 15:48:37 GMT -6
So CC Vets will be playing New Braunfels Canyon? That’s a strange matchup. Vets shouldn’t have too much of a problem. The Cougars have been on a downward spiral, unless they somehow recover this year. Ok, Maybe I’m calling it the wrong school name. I thought NB Canyon was also know as Comal Canyon. Isn’t this the school that has CC on their helmets and are the Cougars? We just played them in Girls BB last night and the bracket had the name as NB Canyon. They always seem to make the football playoffs at least the have the last few years. Same school TWF. But they've only made the playoffs 3 times the last 10 seasons losing in the first round twice and playing CP in 2020 simply because Paetow had to forfeit their round 2 game. 2011 Kerrville Tivy 41 NB Canyon 22 2013 SA Reagan 49 NB Canyon 21 2020 NB Canyon 20 Pflugerville 17, NBC 1 Paetow 0, CP 27 NBC 16
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Post by picodegallo on Feb 23, 2022 17:18:22 GMT -6
Same school. But it can get confusing up there now because you got Canyon as in New Braunfels Canyon and Canyon Lake High up near the lake... All Comal ISD. Kind of like Judson Veterans Memorial.... No none puts the Judson in front of their name unless it's King who wanted to give them street creed like he did a few years ago.... LOL! Most just call them San Antonio Veterans Memorial... Yea as someone who has family both in NB and Canyon areas, I can tell you that the preference is for us to be called New Braunfels Canyon, because we are in New Braunfels - no one will know Comal as well as New Braunfels. What the UIL has been pulling lately makes no sense. Anyways, I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually saw a district with Canyon, SV, Pieper, Davenport and Canyon Lake all competing together. Talk about cutting down on travel. I always thought New Braunfels Canyon was part of the NBISD until I started studying the area a little more a few years back It wasn't until I saw a map one day of the Comal Isd that I didn't realize the district almost surrounds the NB ISD save for a small area on I-35 which goes on a little more to the south and east towards Seguin. NB Canyon High and the Comal Isd offices are not too far from the NB ISD/ Comal ISD boundary
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Post by TWolvesFan on Feb 23, 2022 19:14:26 GMT -6
Ok, Maybe I’m calling it the wrong school name. I thought NB Canyon was also know as Comal Canyon. Isn’t this the school that has CC on their helmets and are the Cougars? We just played them in Girls BB last night and the bracket had the name as NB Canyon. They always seem to make the football playoffs at least the have the last few years. Same school TWF. But they've only made the playoffs 3 times the last 10 seasons losing in the first round twice and playing CP in 2020 simply because Paetow had to forfeit their round 2 game. 2011 Kerrville Tivy 41 NB Canyon 22 2013 SA Reagan 49 NB Canyon 21 2020 NB Canyon 20 Pflugerville 17, NBC 1 Paetow 0, CP 27 NBC 16 Gotcha Clem… thx for the background. I know we were a little off playing at their house that deep into the playoffs but they played us better than most did that year… they also brought the wood and hit hard!
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Post by calcatgirl on Feb 23, 2022 19:25:57 GMT -6
My most memorable Calallen game against NB Canyon was the region 4 championship in 2005. Calallen won 14-13. It was the first missed PAT for the Canyon kicker all season. Hit the uprights snd bounced out. Calallen advanced to play Brenham and then Hebron in the state championship.
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Post by Hounhound on Feb 23, 2022 19:46:12 GMT -6
Same school. But it can get confusing up there now because you got Canyon as in New Braunfels Canyon and Canyon Lake High up near the lake... All Comal ISD. Kind of like Judson Veterans Memorial.... No none puts the Judson in front of their name unless it's King who wanted to give them street creed like he did a few years ago.... LOL! Most just call them San Antonio Veterans Memorial... So with that being said and confirmed, CC Vets’ opens with a fairly tough opponent in the Canyon Cougars 5a D1 Region III District 12. Probably not going to be the top two in that district, but could be a playoff team. Definitely tougher than any of their CCISD district mates… maybe even tougher than VE & VW too! As I said previously… those Comal County boys (SV etc.) like to bring the wood when they hit, so CCVets better button it up and be ready!! I'm just surprised Vets is playing a legit 5A1 school other than the ONE in their district that they are FORCED to (EAST). Looking fwd to this game.
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Post by BandidoNB on Feb 23, 2022 22:26:00 GMT -6
Yea as someone who has family both in NB and Canyon areas, I can tell you that the preference is for us to be called New Braunfels Canyon, because we are in New Braunfels - no one will know Comal as well as New Braunfels. What the UIL has been pulling lately makes no sense. Anyways, I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually saw a district with Canyon, SV, Pieper, Davenport and Canyon Lake all competing together. Talk about cutting down on travel. I always thought New Braunfels Canyon was part of the NBISD until I started studying the area a little more a few years back It wasn't until I saw a map one day of the Comal Isd that I didn't realize the district almost surrounds the NB ISD save for a small area on I-35 which goes on a little more to the south and east towards Seguin. NB Canyon High and the Comal Isd offices are not too far from the NB ISD/ Comal ISD boundary Yea New Braunfels ISD is not a very large school district, but it’s urban and densely populated. It’s the older, centralized parts of the city. Even Canyon is the only “city” school in Comal ISD. But that won’t last as the area grows. I heard once that if Comal ISD reaches full buildout it could have 25 high schools.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Feb 24, 2022 9:08:44 GMT -6
Gotcha Clem… thx for the background. I know we were a little off playing at their house that deep into the playoffs but they played us better than most did that year… they also brought the wood and hit hard! You got it Though they have not enjoyed a tremendous amount of playoff success in recent memory they are usually pretty solid and salty. I think if Bush stays there he can build them up much stronger. That said, with they way that district is growing I'd imagine they will be back in 6a in short order most likely.
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Post by pncakeman on Feb 24, 2022 9:42:32 GMT -6
Vets surprised me with the toughness of their defense last year. That playoff run was something else. I get the competition wasn't the toughest, but to allow 20 total points in four playoff games is something. Can they sustain it? Who knows. But they changed their identity a bit this year from what they have been. How big of a leap can Durrette make in year 2. I don't know how a team can go from year to year without a solid RB. After Frank Jones and Kobe Piper they haven't had that kind of bell cow. That makes it easier on a defense, in my mind. Everyone wants to talk smack about the Valley, but I think Region IV got tougher for Vets even without Bluff and GP. I honestly don't think they are the favorite going in.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Feb 25, 2022 6:55:03 GMT -6
Vets surprised me with the toughness of their defense last year. That playoff run was something else. I get the competition wasn't the toughest, but to allow 20 total points in four playoff games is something. Can they sustain it? Who knows. But they changed their identity a bit this year from what they have been. How big of a leap can Durrette make in year 2. I don't know how a team can go from year to year without a solid RB. After Frank Jones and Kobe Piper they haven't had that kind of bell cow. That makes it easier on a defense, in my mind. Everyone wants to talk smack about the Valley, but I think Region IV got tougher for Vets even without Bluff and GP. I honestly don't think they are the favorite going in. Fair assessment Not sure though that I agree with the FB & GP comment. You now have Vela to worry about but both FB & GP showed they are equal to the task last year. I think the biggest thing is by your sorry ccisd district opting up all those schools you pushed teams that SHOULD be in R4 into R3 and thus escaping Smithson Valley, Wagner, NB Canyon, Boerne Champion, Hays, Seguin, and maybe even SA MacArthur as they will have a good team themselves from time to time! What your district did was basically screw all other CCISD teams over along with those SA area schools by opting up all school but one. Thoughtless, spineless move by the person making this decision as far as I'm concerned. I know the kids, parents, coaches, etc did not have anything to do with this decision but you can bet your bottom dollar people all over R4 will be rooting against CCVM just because of this. Wrong or right it is how it is.
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Post by gpking on Feb 25, 2022 9:11:21 GMT -6
Vets surprised me with the toughness of their defense last year. That playoff run was something else. I get the competition wasn't the toughest, but to allow 20 total points in four playoff games is something. Can they sustain it? Who knows. But they changed their identity a bit this year from what they have been. How big of a leap can Durrette make in year 2. I don't know how a team can go from year to year without a solid RB. After Frank Jones and Kobe Piper they haven't had that kind of bell cow. That makes it easier on a defense, in my mind. Everyone wants to talk smack about the Valley, but I think Region IV got tougher for Vets even without Bluff and GP. I honestly don't think they are the favorite going in. Fair assessment Not sure though that I agree with the FB & GP comment. You now have Vela to worry about but both FB & GP showed they are equal to the task last year. I think the biggest thing is by your sorry ccisd district opting up all those schools you pushed teams that SHOULD be in R4 into R3 and thus escaping Smithson Valley, Wagner, NB Canyon, Boerne Champion, Hays, Seguin, and maybe even SA MacArthur as they will have a good team themselves from time to time! What your district did was basically screw all other CCISD teams over along with those SA area schools by opting up all school but one. Thoughtless, spineless move by the person making this decision as far as I'm concerned. I know the kids, parents, coaches, etc did not have anything to do with this decision but you can bet your bottom dollar people all over R4 will be rooting against CCVM just because of this. Wrong or right it is how it is. Do you think Smithson Valley, Wagner, NB Canyon, Boerne Champion, Hays, and Seguin wanted to be in a weak R4 5A 1. They have better competition in region 3.To Bulldoze over a weak region 4 isn't as fun.
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Post by TWolvesFan on Feb 25, 2022 9:22:14 GMT -6
Fair assessment Not sure though that I agree with the FB & GP comment. You now have Vela to worry about but both FB & GP showed they are equal to the task last year. I think the biggest thing is by your sorry ccisd district opting up all those schools you pushed teams that SHOULD be in R4 into R3 and thus escaping Smithson Valley, Wagner, NB Canyon, Boerne Champion, Hays, Seguin, and maybe even SA MacArthur as they will have a good team themselves from time to time! What your district did was basically screw all other CCISD teams over along with those SA area schools by opting up all school but one. Thoughtless, spineless move by the person making this decision as far as I'm concerned. I know the kids, parents, coaches, etc did not have anything to do with this decision but you can bet your bottom dollar people all over R4 will be rooting against CCVM just because of this. Wrong or right it is how it is. Do you think Smithson Valley, Wagner, NB Canyon, Boerne Champion, Hays, and Seguin wanted to be in a weak R4 5A 1. They have better competition in region 3.To Bulldoze over a weak region 4 isn't as fun. Yes of course they would prefer to be in Region IV! They’ll have plenty of competition during district play to get them ready for playoffs!! Hoisting a Regional Championship Trophy along with a deep playoff run means more practices to develop talent. Whoever comes out of Region III may be pretty banged up!!
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Post by Clemensbuff on Feb 25, 2022 10:10:51 GMT -6
Fair assessment Not sure though that I agree with the FB & GP comment. You now have Vela to worry about but both FB & GP showed they are equal to the task last year. I think the biggest thing is by your sorry ccisd district opting up all those schools you pushed teams that SHOULD be in R4 into R3 and thus escaping Smithson Valley, Wagner, NB Canyon, Boerne Champion, Hays, Seguin, and maybe even SA MacArthur as they will have a good team themselves from time to time! What your district did was basically screw all other CCISD teams over along with those SA area schools by opting up all school but one. Thoughtless, spineless move by the person making this decision as far as I'm concerned. I know the kids, parents, coaches, etc did not have anything to do with this decision but you can bet your bottom dollar people all over R4 will be rooting against CCVM just because of this. Wrong or right it is how it is. Do you think Smithson Valley, Wagner, NB Canyon, Boerne Champion, Hays, and Seguin wanted to be in a weak R4 5A 1. They have better competition in region 3.To Bulldoze over a weak region 4 isn't as fun. Without a doubt in my mind whatsoever they'd all prefer to be playing in R4 where they belong. R3 is already a damn gauntlet. If these teams were in R4 it would make this region a little more legit and a threat in the semis IMO. I'm not saying it would be as tough at the top end as R3 with them, but it dang sure would have made our region a lot better than it currently is.
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Post by BandidoNB on Feb 25, 2022 15:34:38 GMT -6
The balance of power is way off right now between R3 and R4. The regions would be more balanced if San Antonio was back in R4. But I think regardless San Antonio is going to be in R3 going forward but the question is whether that will be in D1 or D2. If CCISD were in D2, then I believe that would push the Hill Country D2 district to R3.
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