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Post by Clemensbuff on May 24, 2021 5:31:10 GMT -6
7 on 7 is not a true indicator of how good a team will be. If that’s the case and if what ccwarcat says is true, then Vets will not make the playoffs this year in that district because they barely beat Miller in 7 on 7 and would surely lose to TM and Beeville as well since Miller won’t make the playoffs. CCWarcat, do you see how crazy that sounds? Miller returns 8 on offense, 7 on defense and a host of kids that opted out playing this past year due to Covid. Miller started 4 sophomores and 1 freshman on the varsity this year on offense. That’s why the JV isn’t very good. All of those kids will be back at Miller for at least the next two years. Also, Driscoll Middle school which is Miller’s main feeder, won the City Championship this past season. They blew everyone out and went 8-0. Miller is set to be good at least for the next 5-6 years. Also I might add, my friend coaches defense for them. He said they are huge up front on both sides of the ball, had a couple of move ins in the last 2 months and he told me that Miller will be going back up to 5A after this season with the rest of the Corpus schools. I see them dominating the Corpus district again once they go back. Miller returns a lot from last year. That is a fact that 7 on 7 don't mean much when it comes to adding 4 more to each side of the ball and strapping on pads. Ask Calallen how many state qualifier teams they've produced in 7 on 7 but then look at their trophy case and see how many regional titles sit it it. Bolded above.....so you are saying none of the starters this coming season will be seniors?
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Post by OCCNH on May 24, 2021 7:42:04 GMT -6
7 on 7 is not a true indicator of how good a team will be. If that’s the case and if what ccwarcat says is true, then Vets will not make the playoffs this year in that district because they barely beat Miller in 7 on 7 and would surely lose to TM and Beeville as well since Miller won’t make the playoffs. CCWarcat, do you see how crazy that sounds? Miller returns 8 on offense, 7 on defense and a host of kids that opted out playing this past year due to Covid. Miller started 4 sophomores and 1 freshman on the varsity this year on offense. That’s why the JV isn’t very good. All of those kids will be back at Miller for at least the next two years. Also, Driscoll Middle school which is Miller’s main feeder, won the City Championship this past season. They blew everyone out and went 8-0. Miller is set to be good at least for the next 5-6 years. Also I might add, my friend coaches defense for them. He said they are huge up front on both sides of the ball, had a couple of move ins in the last 2 months and he told me that Miller will be going back up to 5A after this season with the rest of the Corpus schools. I see them dominating the Corpus district again once they go back. Miller returns a lot from last year. That is a fact that 7 on 7 don't mean much when it comes to adding 4 more to each side of the ball and strapping on pads. Ask Calallen how many state qualifier teams they've produced in 7 on 7 but then look at their trophy case and see how many regional titles sit it it. Bolded above.....so you are saying none of the starters this coming season will be seniors? I think he was talking about the sophomores and freshman. I don’t remember a starting freshman
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Post by SintonFan_InAustin on May 24, 2021 7:49:47 GMT -6
Every QB in the district was a senior expect for the QB from Calallen. Everyone is in the same boat as far as it relates to a new QB. That’s what happens when kids graduate. Calhoun’s QB was a player as well. Why isn’t anyone talking about all they lost? Honestly, Miller and Calallen return the most kids from last years team. The sophomore QB at Miller is good. He will have some good pieces around him. The whole backfield is back from last year as well. I don’t know why people think Miller graduated so much. Miller was young this year. Great, should be a good test for Sinton in 2021. Sinton has been young but still had very good teams in sub varsity and 7th and 8th grades,
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 24, 2021 9:35:39 GMT -6
That is a fact that 7 on 7 don't mean much when it comes to adding 4 more to each side of the ball and strapping on pads. Ask Calallen how many state qualifier teams they've produced in 7 on 7 but then look at their trophy case and see how many regional titles sit it it. Bolded above.....so you are saying none of the starters this coming season will be seniors? I think he was talking about the sophomores and freshman. I don’t remember a starting freshman I completely understand those sophomores and that freshman will but my guess is that the other freshman and sophomores must not have all that much if what I'm reading is true and they were not very good this past year on JV or freshman team. I have no doubt CCVM has some very, very talented kids coming back this year just watching them play a few times last year. I still believe the key for them is going to be to improve that defense. Their offense was as good as anybody's last year in 4a yet they were still a 4 or 5 loss team and didn't win the region. I would bet the HC recognizes this and puts more time into the defense this year. Hell, when Body came in on defense they got better instantly.
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Post by millerbuc05 on May 24, 2021 16:01:11 GMT -6
7 on 7 is not a true indicator of how good a team will be. If that’s the case and if what ccwarcat says is true, then Vets will not make the playoffs this year in that district because they barely beat Miller in 7 on 7 and would surely lose to TM and Beeville as well since Miller won’t make the playoffs. CCWarcat, do you see how crazy that sounds? Miller returns 8 on offense, 7 on defense and a host of kids that opted out playing this past year due to Covid. Miller started 4 sophomores and 1 freshman on the varsity this year on offense. That’s why the JV isn’t very good. All of those kids will be back at Miller for at least the next two years. Also, Driscoll Middle school which is Miller’s main feeder, won the City Championship this past season. They blew everyone out and went 8-0. Miller is set to be good at least for the next 5-6 years. Also I might add, my friend coaches defense for them. He said they are huge up front on both sides of the ball, had a couple of move ins in the last 2 months and he told me that Miller will be going back up to 5A after this season with the rest of the Corpus schools. I see them dominating the Corpus district again once they go back. Miller returns a lot from last year. That is a fact that 7 on 7 don't mean much when it comes to adding 4 more to each side of the ball and strapping on pads. Ask Calallen how many state qualifier teams they've produced in 7 on 7 but then look at their trophy case and see how many regional titles sit it it. Bolded above.....so you are saying none of the starters this coming season will be seniors? Correct. Miller started a freshman in the slot last season. Ended up being pretty good for them. Miller returns 8 starters on offense from the last season. Of those 8 starters returning, 6 of those guys will be juniors and sophomores this upcoming season. Miller was young this year. Really young. They return the bulk of the playmakers outside of #3 the WR and Body. The center graduated as well. Everyone else that started is back from last years offense. Miller is be pretty dang good on offense again this year and for years to come. They also had two move ins on the offense in the last two months. One is a RB, and Miller returns all the RB’s from last year. There were no seniors.
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Post by sotex on May 24, 2021 16:21:13 GMT -6
That is a fact that 7 on 7 don't mean much when it comes to adding 4 more to each side of the ball and strapping on pads. Ask Calallen how many state qualifier teams they've produced in 7 on 7 but then look at their trophy case and see how many regional titles sit it it. Bolded above.....so you are saying none of the starters this coming season will be seniors? Correct. Miller started a freshman in the slot last season. Ended up being pretty good for them. Miller returns 8 starters on offense from the last season. Of those 8 starters returning, 6 of those guys will be juniors and sophomores this upcoming season. Miller was young this year. Really young. They return the bulk of the playmakers outside of #3 the WR and Body. The center graduated as well. Everyone else that started is back from last years offense. Miller is be pretty dang good on offense again this year and for years to come. They also had two move ins on the offense in the last two months. One is a RB, and Miller returns all the RB’s from last year. There were no seniors. Do you know if the coaching staff is addressing the defense? Also depth was a problem last year and Miller had kids playing both ways. If some of those kids on varsity can step up, Miller will be fine. If not, lack of depth may hurt once again.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 25, 2021 13:14:39 GMT -6
Correct. Miller started a freshman in the slot last season. Ended up being pretty good for them. Miller returns 8 starters on offense from the last season. Of those 8 starters returning, 6 of those guys will be juniors and sophomores this upcoming season. Miller was young this year. Really young. They return the bulk of the playmakers outside of #3 the WR and Body. The center graduated as well. Everyone else that started is back from last years offense. Miller is be pretty dang good on offense again this year and for years to come. They also had two move ins on the offense in the last two months. One is a RB, and Miller returns all the RB’s from last year. There were no seniors. Do you know if the coaching staff is addressing the defense? Also depth was a problem last year and Miller had kids playing both ways. If some of those kids on varsity can step up, Miller will be fine. If not, lack of depth may hurt once again. Isn't it fairly common for most 4a teams to have at least a couple guys pulling double duty, especially those that are truly studs. Seems like every year when watching the finals 4a teams will always have a couple that go both ways throughout the majority of the game.
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Post by ccwarcat on May 25, 2021 20:50:07 GMT -6
I'll say this. 7on7 does matter. Is it a hands down predictor of what will happen in 11 on 11? No. But the 7on7 summers most definitely help passing teams in the fall, and passing defenses for that matter.
Maybe Calallen has been notoriously terrible at 7on7 and consistently excellent at 11 on 11 because Calallen has never been a passing team on offense.
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Post by calcatgirl on May 25, 2021 21:54:57 GMT -6
I'll say this. 7on7 does matter. Is it a hands down predictor of what will happen in 11 on 11? No. But the 7on7 summers most definitely help passing teams in the fall, and passing defenses for that matter. Maybe Calallen has been notoriously terrible at 7on7 and consistently excellent at 11 on 11 because Calallen has never been a passing team on offense. The difference in my opinion is when the lineman are included in 11 on 11 and that’s where Calallen excels. I personally love and pay more attention to the lineman challenges during the summer than 7 on 7. I want to know that the trenches have some solid and strong kids.
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Post by OCCNH on May 26, 2021 6:09:58 GMT -6
I'll say this. 7on7 does matter. Is it a hands down predictor of what will happen in 11 on 11? No. But the 7on7 summers most definitely help passing teams in the fall, and passing defenses for that matter. Maybe Calallen has been notoriously terrible at 7on7 and consistently excellent at 11 on 11 because Calallen has never been a passing team on offense. The difference in my opinion is when the lineman are included in 11 on 11 and that’s where Calallen excels. I personally love and pay more attention to the lineman challenges during the summer than 7 on 7. I want to know that the trenches have some solid and strong kids. 7 on 7 is a totally different game played with a football. I agree it helps with timing and routes for the QB and WRs BUT really doesn’t tell you where your team is as a REAL football team. And that’s always been my opinion
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Post by wfcoyote on May 26, 2021 7:14:09 GMT -6
7 on 7 is flag football without the flag. 7 on 7 could be the reason a QB falls in love with his arm. 7 on 7 is better than setting on your collective behind twiddling your thumbs on that little screen.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 26, 2021 8:21:02 GMT -6
I'll say this. 7on7 does matter. Is it a hands down predictor of what will happen in 11 on 11? No. But the 7on7 summers most definitely help passing teams in the fall, and passing defenses for that matter. Maybe Calallen has been notoriously terrible at 7on7 and consistently excellent at 11 on 11 because Calallen has never been a passing team on offense. Meh Big difference in defense played on those WRs in the fall when a CB steps up to the LOS and hits him square in the jaw and won't let him off that LOS to get into his route! Also, a DE, DT or LB putting his facemask marks in between a QB's shoulder blades tends to get most HS QBs off their game just a bit to....even the good ones at times. I don't put a damn bit of stock in 7 on 7 when predicting just how good or not so good a team is going to be in the fall
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Post by picodegallo on May 26, 2021 16:28:58 GMT -6
I'll say this. 7on7 does matter. Is it a hands down predictor of what will happen in 11 on 11? No. But the 7on7 summers most definitely help passing teams in the fall, and passing defenses for that matter. Maybe Calallen has been notoriously terrible at 7on7 and consistently excellent at 11 on 11 because Calallen has never been a passing team on offense. Meh Big difference in defense played on those WRs in the fall when a CB steps up to the LOS and hits him square in the jaw and won't let him off that LOS to get into his route! Also, a DE, DT or LB putting his facemask marks in between a QB's shoulder blades tends to get most HS QBs off their game just a bit to....even the good ones at times. I don't put a damn bit of stock in 7 on 7 when predicting just how good or not so good a team is going to be in the fall Kind of the same thing watching Kickers and Punters taking pre game reps and seeing them kick 50 yard FG's and just as long for punts. It's ALOT different when the deep snapper has to get a clean snap off with a nose guard breathing down on his face. Especially if the deep snapper has also been the Center for the preceding drive. Suddely that clean delievery of the ball to Punter or Holder becomes a little more challenging and those long kicks go wide right or left.
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Post by Clemensbuff on May 27, 2021 6:18:02 GMT -6
Meh Big difference in defense played on those WRs in the fall when a CB steps up to the LOS and hits him square in the jaw and won't let him off that LOS to get into his route! Also, a DE, DT or LB putting his facemask marks in between a QB's shoulder blades tends to get most HS QBs off their game just a bit to....even the good ones at times. I don't put a damn bit of stock in 7 on 7 when predicting just how good or not so good a team is going to be in the fall Kind of the same thing watching Kickers and Punters taking pre game reps and seeing them kick 50 yard FG's and just as long for punts. It's ALOT different when the deep snapper has to get a clean snap off with a nose guard breathing down on his face. Especially if the deep snapper has also been the Center for the preceding drive. Suddely that clean delievery of the ball to Punter or Holder becomes a little more challenging and those long kicks go wide right or left. Eggzackly
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Post by Hounhound on May 30, 2021 17:27:16 GMT -6
I think he was talking about the sophomores and freshman. I don’t remember a starting freshman I completely understand those sophomores and that freshman will but my guess is that the other freshman and sophomores must not have all that much if what I'm reading is true and they were not very good this past year on JV or freshman team. I have no doubt CCVM has some very, very talented kids coming back this year just watching them play a few times last year. I still believe the key for them is going to be to improve that defense. Their offense was as good as anybody's last year in 4a yet they were still a 4 or 5 loss team and didn't win the region. I would bet the HC recognizes this and puts more time into the defense this year. Hell, when Body came in on defense they got better instantly. Just read on 361 Blast that Miller had 6 players sign to play College ball. With all they say is coming back I'm going to put them 2nd behind Calallen right now in the early picks. Nobody else in 15-4A-I had that many according to the article.
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