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Post by Clemensbuff on Sept 21, 2020 11:17:29 GMT -6
Exactly 5-10 passes per game at key times to loosen up the defense and then run all over them again. It is amazing what a couple of deep balls off of play action can do for you! I think they have the personnel to be very, very effective at doing it! I'm with dance with what got you there. Sometimes you run into a team that was simply better that day. Yes of course you want to pass the ball when you get those 3rd and longs but it takes practice and practices are limited these days. Someone bought up Wagner and how effective they are when passing. Well their passing wasn't very effective when they played Shadow Creek. They simply got beat by a better team. Very true Sotex. SC was a monster and I believe there were very, very few 6a teams that could have beaten them last year. Throwing on 2nd or 3rd and long is difficult even for a very good passing team when up against a top notch defense. I'm more thinking putting it in the air on 1st & 10s and 2nd and short type of plays and taking advantage of defenses cheating at the line of scrimmage. In the end most games are still won up front. If your big uglies are better than their big uglies you are going to win the overwhelming majority of the time. SC last year was not only better than most up front, they then had the tremendous skill position players to just kill people with once they were in space or even in a one on one situation they would win almost every one of those.
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Post by sotex on Sept 21, 2020 14:35:34 GMT -6
I'm with dance with what got you there. Sometimes you run into a team that was simply better that day. Yes of course you want to pass the ball when you get those 3rd and longs but it takes practice and practices are limited these days. Someone bought up Wagner and how effective they are when passing. Well their passing wasn't very effective when they played Shadow Creek. They simply got beat by a better team. Very true Sotex. SC was a monster and I believe there were very, very few 6a teams that could have beaten them last year. Throwing on 2nd or 3rd and long is difficult even for a very good passing team when up against a top notch defense. I'm more thinking putting it in the air on 1st & 10s and 2nd and short type of plays and taking advantage of defenses cheating at the line of scrimmage. In the end most games are still won up front. If your big uglies are better than their big uglies you are going to win the overwhelming majority of the time. SC last year was not only better than most up front, they then had the tremendous skill position players to just kill people with once they were in space or even in a one on one situation they would win almost every one of those. I totally get where you are coming from and agree, but when you have a coach like Danaher, Whitaker, Soza etc do what they do running the ball. Its their philosophy and it works for them. Yeah maybe they haven’t won it all but imo throwing the ball more wouldn't change the outcome. There's a lot of good coaches and programs that have never made it to the big dance. Its really hard to do.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Sept 21, 2020 15:04:07 GMT -6
Very true Sotex. SC was a monster and I believe there were very, very few 6a teams that could have beaten them last year. Throwing on 2nd or 3rd and long is difficult even for a very good passing team when up against a top notch defense. I'm more thinking putting it in the air on 1st & 10s and 2nd and short type of plays and taking advantage of defenses cheating at the line of scrimmage. In the end most games are still won up front. If your big uglies are better than their big uglies you are going to win the overwhelming majority of the time. SC last year was not only better than most up front, they then had the tremendous skill position players to just kill people with once they were in space or even in a one on one situation they would win almost every one of those. I totally get where you are coming from and agree, but when you have a coach like Danaher, Whitaker, Soza etc do what they do running the ball. Its their philosophy and it works for them. Yeah maybe they haven’t won it all but imo throwing the ball more wouldn't change the outcome. There's a lot of good coaches and programs that have never made it to the big dance. Its really hard to do. Absolutely Sotex
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 15:28:32 GMT -6
So, How do you answer this question. At a program where you do not typically have elite talent. How do you build your program?
1. To win your District
2. To win your Area
3. To win your Region
4. To win State
I'm going to save my answer until later. GO
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Post by picodegallo on Sept 21, 2020 15:56:51 GMT -6
So, How do you answer this question. At a program where you do not typically have elite talent. How do you build your program? 1. To win your District 2. To win your Area 3. To win your Region 4. To win State I'm going to save my answer until later. GO Every coach should build their program with the mindset that your team is going to play 16 games every season. But yea, it's not going to happened right off the bat with a regime change. Some are content with just winning district or playing the Friday or Saturday after Thanksgiving. Then a few are content with just beating their rival every year and if they win a few more games games before or after that game, that's icing on the cake for them. Regionally (and I'm talking Region IV in all classes) I think you see this from many of the Valley schools (unfortunately) as some of them have traditionally ceded they will never make it to a state final again, so winning the big game against your neighbor school you've played for 90 years or more is the big game you will always talk about. This applies to some of the inner city San Antonio schools too. If the program has never had success or has been down for a period from it's once high standards, indeed it's probably not realistic to expect your kids to play 16 within a season or two of taking over that program. Heck it took Coach D almost a decade to put Calallen in a position to play for that 16th game and almost another decade to get in a state game. Some schools flipped the switch pretty fast like Lake Travis, so exceptions do exist. But realistically I think you try to play one or two more games than you did last season and you become regular playoff chatter and you are on your way to go further and further.
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Post by calcatgirl on Sept 21, 2020 16:40:38 GMT -6
So, How do you answer this question. At a program where you do not typically have elite talent. How do you build your program? 1. To win your District 2. To win your Area 3. To win your Region 4. To win State I'm going to save my answer until later. GO Every coach should build their program with the mindset that your team is going to play 16 games every season. But yea, it's not going to happened right off the bat with a regime change. Some are content with just winning district or playing the Friday or Saturday after Thanksgiving. Then a few are content with just beating their rival every year and if they win a few more games games before or after that game, that's icing on the cake for them. Regionally (and I'm talking Region IV in all classes) I think you see this from many of the Valley schools (unfortunately) as some of them have traditionally ceded they will never make it to a state final again, so winning the big game against your neighbor school you've played for 90 years or more is the big game you will always talk about. This applies to some of the inner city San Antonio schools too. If the program has never had success or has been down for a period from it's once high standards, indeed it's probably not realistic to expect your kids to play 16 within a season or two of taking over that program. Heck it took Coach D almost a decade to put Calallen in a position to play for that 16th game and almost another decade to get in a state game. Some schools flipped the switch pretty fast like Lake Travis, so exceptions do exist. But realistically I think you try to play one or two more games than you did last season and you become regular playoff chatter and you are on your way to go further and further. I agree with your assessment. I love that we start every season with the expectation of playing on the last day. That’s always the goal. I was talking to one of our senior players yesterday and he said they want this to be the first team in Calallen history to win it all. I love that attitude. I read a comment by a fan from another school in our district who is new to football success say that Calallen only has a winning tradition of winning district and basically it’s laughable. Well - outside of district titles - I’d say that 36 consecutive years of playoff appearances, 12 region titles and 2 state appearances is more than laughable. I would dare someone to say they wouldn’t love to have that kind of success for their program. I didn’t respond to the comment because there’s no merit to someone who’s team just won district and made the playoffs for the first time in ages saying something so ignorant. Stay consistent and strive to play on the last day. One day it just might happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 16:58:56 GMT -6
I understand what ya'll are saying. But the question was not intended for any particular team. CalCatgirl, I'm thankful for the record Calhoun Has. I'm not about to let myself believe that 36 years straight is possible. Just being realistic. Some teams catch lightning in a bottle and that's what most likely happens for most. Can Calhoun Compete with Calallen. I'd say they have done a decent job of that for the last few years. Heres my 2 cents.
I agree the goal is to play for a state championship every year. But a goal that high is hard to attain for a team that is consistently in the middle of the district. So My approach when starting at a new school (for the coach) is to set a 3 or 4 tier ladder to try and get to state. First get competitive in the district, then area, then region. Then you are ready to get to the big dance. but Consistency is the KEY
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Post by wfcoyote on Sept 21, 2020 17:14:11 GMT -6
‘I love that attitude” from the first sentence is at the top of success. Coach Shipley had success with the spread and Coaches copied Southlake Carroll and Lake Travis because of their success. Now teams are trending back to the running game with Wing-T or modified Wing-T called the Slot-T or some version of the Option. I loved watching the Houston Veer. I see some teams lining up in the T formation. Coach Warren Woodson modified the T formation to the Woodson Wing-T. I was introduced to the Single Wing in Wichita Falls. It would be hard to find a state title that Brownwood won that they did not beat a team that had more talent than Brownwood. Brownwood won with attitude.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 18:16:34 GMT -6
So, How do you answer this question. At a program where you do not typically have elite talent. How do you build your program? 1. To win your District 2. To win your Area 3. To win your Region 4. To win State I'm going to save my answer until later. GO Short answer: Set the expectations for the program and culture Hold everyone accountable Create a competitive environment Every kid either runs track or plays another sport in the offseason Be consistent at the leadership level Win as many games as possible Start all over and start grinding again
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Post by wfcoyote on Sept 22, 2020 10:35:44 GMT -6
Anybody know what the ticket situation is for the GP game?
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Post by Saltydog on Sept 23, 2020 17:34:59 GMT -6
Who's going to win in the fifth week of the 2020 Texas high school football season? DCTF computer projects all
CC Calallen (1-2) Gregory-Portland (0-0) CC Calallen (1-2) favored by 23
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Post by calcatgirl on Sept 24, 2020 22:12:14 GMT -6
Calallen Freshman and JV both get wins tonight. Ready for a great game tomorrow night!
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Post by tx20 on Sept 24, 2020 22:49:46 GMT -6
I only watched the last two minutes of JV. GP scores in the final two minutes to make it 14 to 12.
GP went for the onside with less than 1 minute to go and got the onside. The next play GP quarter back rolled to the right and threw a pick six. Game over.
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Post by wfcoyote on Sept 25, 2020 6:24:46 GMT -6
GP May no longer have the Victory formation in their playbook.
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Post by gpfan55 on Sept 25, 2020 7:34:14 GMT -6
GP May no longer have the Victory formation in their playbook. That's the old 37/wfc. Always the pessimist. What a fan.
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