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Post by gpfan55 on Jun 26, 2020 10:53:16 GMT -6
Unless they miraculously come up with a vaccine here soon, the season won't happen. At best it gets pushed back but there won't be football in September. I don’t believe a vaccine is needed for them to start school or fall sports. With a vaccine at best it’s a deterrent to the virus only not a cure (see flu vaccine) I believe there will be school and football and it will be up to the individual or the parents to make a choice as to whether they feel safe enough to attend or participate. Schools will not open with kids in the classroom that are positive or exposed to someone positive. Same with fall sports. A vaccine is the only way to start school or play sports. Don't see it happening in 2020.
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Post by WAC on Jun 26, 2020 11:01:33 GMT -6
I don’t believe a vaccine is needed for them to start school or fall sports. With a vaccine at best it’s a deterrent to the virus only not a cure (see flu vaccine) I believe there will be school and football and it will be up to the individual or the parents to make a choice as to whether they feel safe enough to attend or participate. Schools will not open with kids in the classroom that are positive or exposed to someone positive. Same with fall sports. A vaccine is the only way to start school or play sports. Don't see it happening in 2020. You’re entitled to your option as am I. I believe if you’re planning on keeping teachers and students from attending the buildings they normally go to you’d have to do the same with every job and that goes back to shutting down the state and economy. I don’t think that happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 11:06:29 GMT -6
Unless they miraculously come up with a vaccine here soon, the season won't happen. At best it gets pushed back but there won't be football in September. I don’t believe a vaccine is needed for them to start school or fall sports. With a vaccine at best it’s a deterrent to the virus only not a cure (see flu vaccine) I believe there will be school and football and it will be up to the individual or the parents to make a choice as to whether they feel safe enough to attend or participate. I understand the point about the vaccine but that's already known and they're still shutting things down. What changes in 2 weeks when they say the kids can resume practice again? The virus isn't going anywhere in 2 weeks. The point is if they are already shutting things down now there's no way a complete season happens because the virus spreading is only gonna get worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 11:07:55 GMT -6
Schools will not open with kids in the classroom that are positive or exposed to someone positive. Same with fall sports. A vaccine is the only way to start school or play sports. Don't see it happening in 2020. You’re entitled to your option as am I. I believe if you’re planning on keeping teachers and students from attending the buildings they normally go to you’d have to do the same with every job and that goes back to shutting down the state and economy. I don’t think that happens. False example. If you shut down schools you have to shut down all jobs? Where is that written, lol c'mon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 11:08:34 GMT -6
Schools will not open with kids in the classroom that are positive or exposed to someone positive. Same with fall sports. A vaccine is the only way to start school or play sports. Don't see it happening in 2020. You’re entitled to your option as am I. I believe if you’re planning on keeping teachers and students from attending the buildings they normally go to you’d have to do the same with every job and that goes back to shutting down the state and economy. I don’t think that happens. Schools will open in rational locations. We just need to get past the current phase of media driven fear mongering. The data clearly shows that HS age kids are minimally impacted by COVID, very low risk. Not opening schools is just flat out ignoring the data.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 11:11:24 GMT -6
You’re entitled to your option as am I. I believe if you’re planning on keeping teachers and students from attending the buildings they normally go to you’d have to do the same with every job and that goes back to shutting down the state and economy. I don’t think that happens. Schools will open in rational locations. We just need to get past the current phase of media driven fear mongering. The data clearly shows that HS age kids are minimally impacted by COVID, very low risk. Not opening schools is just flat out ignoring the data. It's not kids that are employed by the schools. Point is it's not just kids in the schools, stadiums, etc. The media is telling you exactly what the numbers are so if you consider that fear mongering then that's a personal mental thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 11:17:47 GMT -6
Like i said, rational locations will open.
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Post by WAC on Jun 26, 2020 11:32:24 GMT -6
Schools will open in rational locations. We just need to get past the current phase of media driven fear mongering. The data clearly shows that HS age kids are minimally impacted by COVID, very low risk. Not opening schools is just flat out ignoring the data. It's not kids that are employed by the schools. Point is it's not just kids in the schools, stadiums, etc. The media is telling you exactly what the numbers are so if you consider that fear mongering then that's a personal mental thing. Which media? There are different sides. One that feels yes there are cases but the death rate is going down and these cases are mostly asymptomatic. (See the CDC report where they believe US may have 10x the number of cases reported) Or the media that feels it’s best to stay inside and let the virus die and no one will be infected. Again I hope there is football and believe there will be in some form. I’m not willing to say 6-7 weeks out that school and sports isn’t happening
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 12:19:46 GMT -6
Here is a good article justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/texas-government-counting-every-covid-positive-hospital-caseA couple quotes for folks: "Lindsey Rosales, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, confirmed to Just the News this week that the state is categorizing every inpatient in the state with a positive COVID-19 test as a COVID-19 hospitalization. "The number of hospitalized patients includes patients with a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 even if the person is admitted to the hospital for a different reason," Rosales said. The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we're concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now." "We do have the capacity to care for many more patients, and have lots of fluidity and ability to manage," Boom said. He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate."
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Post by calcatgirl on Jun 26, 2020 12:32:18 GMT -6
This is all so confusing to me. I personally don’t trust the data at all. I know several people who’ve had family members pass away these last few months and it was tagged as covid-19 as cause of death and in each instance that wasn’t factual and the family had to fight to get it changed because they knew it was a lie (this is coming directly from people I know personally). I have friends who are doctors and nurses in hospitals across the state and they tell me a lot of the reporting is bogus. I know this is a real thing and I’m not disputing that at all. But I do know numerous people including teenagers with it and they are saying they were sicker with the flu. This is not going to end - not even with a vaccine as we can see with the flu. I just don’t see how closing everything down again is going to solve the problem because it will spike again at reopening. Kids won’t learn virtually. Teachers are saying it and the kids are saying what happened these last few months wasn’t learning either. Plus they will lose the opportunity to develop their social skills if not in the classroom. I don’t know what the answer is and I’m glad I don’t have to make these decisions but it’s definitely a divisive subject.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 12:48:38 GMT -6
This is all so confusing to me. I personally don’t trust the data at all. I know several people who’ve had family members pass away these last few months and it was tagged as covid-19 as cause of death and in each instance that wasn’t factual and the family had to fight to get it changed because they knew it was a lie (this is coming directly from people I know personally). I have friends who are doctors and nurses in hospitals across the state and they tell me a lot of the reporting is bogus. I know this is a real thing and I’m not disputing that at all. But I do know numerous people including teenagers with it and they are saying they were sicker with the flu. This is not going to end - not even with a vaccine as we can see with the flu. I just don’t see how closing everything down again is going to solve the problem because it will spike again at reopening. Kids won’t learn virtually. Teachers are saying it and the kids are saying what happened these last few months wasn’t learning either. Plus they will lose the opportunity to develop their social skills if not in the classroom. I don’t know what the answer is and I’m glad I don’t have to make these decisions but it’s definitely a divisive subject. You are not alone in above, not at all. There are many many people that share this exact same experience, and I am also hearing first hand accounts exactly the same. People are starting legal action against the false COVID death certificate claims. Hopefully these stories come to light soon, but likely will be suppressed. yes, its real, yes its spreading, yes its not good for the High Risk. But, the media driven frenzy is absolute total BS. Abbott has been a complete failure on this IMO
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 12:49:52 GMT -6
I don't understand the argument from the "other side". Not trying to make this about politics but I see so many blaming the "liberal media" but you do understand the media has jack squat to do with the shutdowns right? You do understand that our governor making the decisions to shut down is a republican right? The president is republican. Congress is majority republican. Someone should tag Matt Stepp and ask him what he thinks the chances are of us there being a football season come September.
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Post by calcatgirl on Jun 26, 2020 12:51:23 GMT -6
Here is a good article justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/texas-government-counting-every-covid-positive-hospital-caseA couple quotes for folks: "Lindsey Rosales, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, confirmed to Just the News this week that the state is categorizing every inpatient in the state with a positive COVID-19 test as a COVID-19 hospitalization. "The number of hospitalized patients includes patients with a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 even if the person is admitted to the hospital for a different reason," Rosales said. The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we're concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now." "We do have the capacity to care for many more patients, and have lots of fluidity and ability to manage," Boom said. He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate." Wow! I’m seeing this same article shared all over social media today. I just checked with a friend who’s a nurse at a large hospital in Houston and she said it’s true. She said this is why she’s been telling me the data is wrong. This is terrible if true and creating a lot of unnecessary hysteria.
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Post by picodegallo on Jun 26, 2020 12:54:31 GMT -6
This is all so confusing to me. I personally don’t trust the data at all. I know several people who’ve had family members pass away these last few months and it was tagged as covid-19 as cause of death and in each instance that wasn’t factual and the family had to fight to get it changed because they knew it was a lie (this is coming directly from people I know personally). I have friends who are doctors and nurses in hospitals across the state and they tell me a lot of the reporting is bogus. I know this is a real thing and I’m not disputing that at all. But I do know numerous people including teenagers with it and they are saying they were sicker with the flu. This is not going to end - not even with a vaccine as we can see with the flu. I just don’t see how closing everything down again is going to solve the problem because it will spike again at reopening. Kids won’t learn virtually. Teachers are saying it and the kids are saying what happened these last few months wasn’t learning either. Plus they will lose the opportunity to develop their social skills if not in the classroom. I don’t know what the answer is and I’m glad I don’t have to make these decisions but it’s definitely a divisive subject. The stats are all over the place. www.kiiitv.com/article/news/woman-in-her-70s-first-covid-19-death-in-nueces-county/503-6dc7587b-f1d2-4c0b-88e2-1abff01ec83fThe first death in Nueces County was classified ( and reported in the above link) a Covid death even tough she was admitted to the hospital due to stomach issues and other conditions and died it from a few weeks AFTER she was diagnosed and RECOVERED from Covid-19. You can bet your bottom dollar this is happening all over the place because the Feds/State gave the hospitals the green light to reclassify anything and everything as being Covid related. And the hospitals and public health systems reward? Higher reimbursements!!! Going into the hospital for a pre existing stomach issue doesn't pay as well as what the government is paying for Covid related issues. They are not deducting from the count of people who are false positives after being confirmed with a second test a few days later. They are not keeping a separate tally of asymptomatic people either and most of the numbers being tossed around are educated guesses in that category So yes the numbers are picking up because testing is increasing due in part to employers sending whole groups of employees to a testing center thanks to exposure to an employee who had a confirmed case or was even asymptomatic and showed no symptoms.
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Post by calcatgirl on Jun 26, 2020 12:59:48 GMT -6
This is all so confusing to me. I personally don’t trust the data at all. I know several people who’ve had family members pass away these last few months and it was tagged as covid-19 as cause of death and in each instance that wasn’t factual and the family had to fight to get it changed because they knew it was a lie (this is coming directly from people I know personally). I have friends who are doctors and nurses in hospitals across the state and they tell me a lot of the reporting is bogus. I know this is a real thing and I’m not disputing that at all. But I do know numerous people including teenagers with it and they are saying they were sicker with the flu. This is not going to end - not even with a vaccine as we can see with the flu. I just don’t see how closing everything down again is going to solve the problem because it will spike again at reopening. Kids won’t learn virtually. Teachers are saying it and the kids are saying what happened these last few months wasn’t learning either. Plus they will lose the opportunity to develop their social skills if not in the classroom. I don’t know what the answer is and I’m glad I don’t have to make these decisions but it’s definitely a divisive subject. The stats are all over the place. www.kiiitv.com/article/news/woman-in-her-70s-first-covid-19-death-in-nueces-county/503-6dc7587b-f1d2-4c0b-88e2-1abff01ec83fThe first death in Nueces County was classified ( and reported in the above link) a Covid death even tough she was admitted to the hospital due to stomach issues and other conditions and died it from a few weeks AFTER she was diagnosed and RECOVERED from Covid-19. You can bet your bottom dollar this is happening all over the place because the Feds/State gave the hospitals the green light to reclassify anything and everything as being Covid related. And the hospitals and public health systems reward? Higher reimbursements!!! Going into the hospital for a pre existing stomach issue doesn't pay as well as what the government is paying for Covid related issues. They are not deducting from the count of people who are false positives after being confirmed with a second test a few days later. They are not keeping a separate tally of asymptomatic people either and most of the numbers being tossed around are educated guesses in that category So yes the numbers are picking up because testing is increasing due in part to employers sending whole groups of employees to a testing center thanks to exposure to an employee who had a confirmed case or was even asymptomatic and showed no symptoms. Yep - I have a good friend who told me this week that someone she knows personally went to the doctor, minor emergency clinic and emergency room with chest pains and they wouldn’t treat him until he was covid tested first. He died of a massive heart attack before his test results came back and they were negative. They are betting it will be tagged a covid death and they are just waiting for it. This is just wrong. They are already seeking legal advice
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