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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 2, 2020 9:16:21 GMT -6
So what would you 'label' a pandemic then? This is a very, very contagious virus and affecting millions world wide, not a few thousand. Having 100% of the ICU beds in Houston, TX filled is not a concern to you? Furthermore, since some of those are asymptomatic altogether or have very mild symptoms they've not bothered to go to the Dr or get tested which means the likely overall number who've been infected by it is much, much higher than the numbers we are seeing. If a virus is found on every continent is it a pandemic? If so the flu, the common cold, all other variations of COVID are pandemics. Ebola is much more deadly. I'm simply following the numbers. There are almost 30 million Texans and as of yesterday Texas had just under 168,000 cases. The asymptomatic cases have been proven to be mostly false positives. The WHO admitted that asymptomatic cases were rare. Over 10,000 cases were proven to be counted twice. In the beginning anyone with COVID like symptoms was counted, even though they were never tested for COVID. I've been reading the medical studies and executive summaries, not the newspapers and clickbait. Although some articles have remained factual with links to medical studies, there is a lot of garbage out there. 100% of the ICU beds in Houston are not filled with COVID patients, although COVID makes up 35% of those patients. www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/we-do-not-have-a-crisis-of-beds-texas-medical-center-leaders-explain-reformatted-icu-bed-capacity-data/285-12446283-4afc-46be-b5ba-a401bfe5ff14The stimulus bills pay hospitals 5K to diagnose, $13k to admit COVID patients, and $39k to place on a ventilator. Our hospitals are privately run in the US and most are owned by publicly-traded companies that answer to an executive board and stockholders. This exposes a flaw in the system where profits outweigh preparedness. There are multiple emergency-contingency programs such as bringing in hospital ships (Houston being a port) to uses college dorms as overflow. The fact is that 99.7+% of people who contract COVID-19 survive. www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."I want the elderly, the at-risk, and those around them to take great precautions. I wear a mask to make my wife happy, however, no one in my household is at great risk. We do see my mother-in-law occasionally, however, she is in great health and we take full precaution. Florida has decided not to shut down so I'll be reading the studies out of Florida and following the reports. I think Texas should have stayed the course. Texas is about to get a huge heat was with sustained heat and UV indexes and high humidity, all of which will combat the spread. However, I'm sure the decrease in numbers will be attributed to the latest round of shutdowns. For the record I think Corona should be taken seriously, but so should the flu and other communicable diseases. I just think that way too many people cried wolf and have been completely wrong in their predictions. I'm very pro-science but in the beginning, different theories and hypotheses were floated by overzealous media as facts. Way to much was taken out of context, and I firmly believe in Content over Context... OK, so in a very bad year such as last year (worst in 40 years) the US had some 80K deaths to the flu. We are at 130K+ now to covid and it is not over with. And you believe that heat is going to slow it down? Not sure if you've been outside the past few weeks but it has been mid-high 90s in most of Texas for a good while and it isn't slowing it down. Also, the spread of this virus, especially in the last couple of weeks when all these precautions are being taken is just a bit more concerning than most viruses, wouldn't you agree? Again, I realize that the overall percentage of deaths to it is small when looking at the numbers but the bottom line is if one of those 130K+ deaths is one of your loved ones I believe it matters much, much more! Last, I have several very good friends and family members that are in medical care including doctors, PAs, & nurses and each and every one of them is DAMN concerned about it and that is good enough to tell me this is pretty serious.
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Post by JohnGalt on Jul 2, 2020 9:36:25 GMT -6
If a virus is found on every continent is it a pandemic? If so the flu, the common cold, all other variations of COVID are pandemics. Ebola is much more deadly. I'm simply following the numbers. There are almost 30 million Texans and as of yesterday Texas had just under 168,000 cases. The asymptomatic cases have been proven to be mostly false positives. The WHO admitted that asymptomatic cases were rare. Over 10,000 cases were proven to be counted twice. In the beginning anyone with COVID like symptoms was counted, even though they were never tested for COVID. I've been reading the medical studies and executive summaries, not the newspapers and clickbait. Although some articles have remained factual with links to medical studies, there is a lot of garbage out there. 100% of the ICU beds in Houston are not filled with COVID patients, although COVID makes up 35% of those patients. www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/we-do-not-have-a-crisis-of-beds-texas-medical-center-leaders-explain-reformatted-icu-bed-capacity-data/285-12446283-4afc-46be-b5ba-a401bfe5ff14The stimulus bills pay hospitals 5K to diagnose, $13k to admit COVID patients, and $39k to place on a ventilator. Our hospitals are privately run in the US and most are owned by publicly-traded companies that answer to an executive board and stockholders. This exposes a flaw in the system where profits outweigh preparedness. There are multiple emergency-contingency programs such as bringing in hospital ships (Houston being a port) to uses college dorms as overflow. The fact is that 99.7+% of people who contract COVID-19 survive. www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."I want the elderly, the at-risk, and those around them to take great precautions. I wear a mask to make my wife happy, however, no one in my household is at great risk. We do see my mother-in-law occasionally, however, she is in great health and we take full precaution. Florida has decided not to shut down so I'll be reading the studies out of Florida and following the reports. I think Texas should have stayed the course. Texas is about to get a huge heat was with sustained heat and UV indexes and high humidity, all of which will combat the spread. However, I'm sure the decrease in numbers will be attributed to the latest round of shutdowns. For the record I think Corona should be taken seriously, but so should the flu and other communicable diseases. I just think that way too many people cried wolf and have been completely wrong in their predictions. I'm very pro-science but in the beginning, different theories and hypotheses were floated by overzealous media as facts. Way to much was taken out of context, and I firmly believe in Content over Context... OK, so in a very bad year such as last year (worst in 40 years) the US had some 80K deaths to the flu. We are at 130K+ now to covid and it is not over with. And you believe that heat is going to slow it down? Not sure if you've been outside the past few weeks but it has been mid-high 90s in most of Texas for a good while and it isn't slowing it down. Also, the spread of this virus, especially in the last couple of weeks when all these precautions are being taken is just a bit more concerning than most viruses, wouldn't you agree? Again, I realize that the overall percentage of deaths to it is small when looking at the numbers but the bottom line is if one of those 130K+ deaths is one of your loved ones I believe it matters much, much more! Last, I have several very good friends and family members that are in medical care including doctors, PAs, & nurses and each and every one of them is DAMN concerned about it and that is good enough to tell me this is pretty serious. From March through May the US had about a 20% increase in total deaths this year (roughly 122,000). NYC went from 13,000 to 37,000. That 122,000 is a ton of people. Like more than what the atomic bombs killed. What gets me about people, is they feel like they have to downplay one side of the argument. Shutting the economy is a terrible thing. The coronavirus is a terrible thing. It’s okay to admit both, people don’t have to act like one isn’t a big deal just to make a point about the other.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 2, 2020 11:08:57 GMT -6
From March through May the US had about a 20% increase in total deaths this year (roughly 122,000). NYC went from 13,000 to 37,000. That 122,000 is a ton of people. Like more than what the atomic bombs killed. What gets me about people, is they feel like they have to downplay one side of the argument. Shutting the economy is a terrible thing. The coronavirus is a terrible thing. It’s okay to admit both, people don’t have to act like one isn’t a big deal just to make a point about the other. Well said compadre. I believe it is a serious, serious thing but at the same time we cannot stop what we do! Let's just do it being as safe and as smart as we can.
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Post by picodegallo on Jul 2, 2020 12:46:09 GMT -6
From March through May the US had about a 20% increase in total deaths this year (roughly 122,000). NYC went from 13,000 to 37,000. That 122,000 is a ton of people. Like more than what the atomic bombs killed. What gets me about people, is they feel like they have to downplay one side of the argument. Shutting the economy is a terrible thing. The coronavirus is a terrible thing. It’s okay to admit both, people don’t have to act like one isn’t a big deal just to make a point about the other. Well said compadre. I believe it is a serious, serious thing but at the same time we cannot stop what we do! Let's just do it being as safe and as smart as we can. I think this is what gets lost in all of this. You have one side who thinks we should shut and keep everything shut down until a vaccine is found or the virus eliminates itself. On the other is the let's roll and go back to our normal. The stay at home side needs to chill with some of the ridicule they direct towards business owners. I see this on my Facebook page and I as much as I hate to say it (my Mon was a teacher) , alot of it comes from friends and others who are in the education field and are getting their paychecks. School is "out" now, but during the time they were on clock a number of them were certainly not bashful with how they were using their new found free time at home. A few times I had posts ready to go wanting to call them out with something along the lines it's easy for you to suggest everyone shut down while you are getting a check oh and by the way a check which is income produced from the taxes from some of the very people you are saying need to stay home and keep shut down. Careful with the line you tow t because if businesses close, real estate become vacant (less commercial property taxes), business owners have to sell assets like their personal property (homes) , suddenly the tax well begins to shrink which means your own job might be on the line come budget time. On the flip side, business people have to be cognitive of the environment we live in and just roll with the precautions. We will know by August if masking up and re closing/or limiting establishments capacity is working. If not, then the data needs to be looked at again to see if their is some funny business going on.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Jul 6, 2020 5:38:39 GMT -6
Well said compadre. I believe it is a serious, serious thing but at the same time we cannot stop what we do! Let's just do it being as safe and as smart as we can. I think this is what gets lost in all of this. You have one side who thinks we should shut and keep everything shut down until a vaccine is found or the virus eliminates itself. On the other is the let's roll and go back to our normal. The stay at home side needs to chill with some of the ridicule they direct towards business owners. I see this on my Facebook page and I as much as I hate to say it (my Mon was a teacher) , alot of it comes from friends and others who are in the education field and are getting their paychecks. School is "out" now, but during the time they were on clock a number of them were certainly not bashful with how they were using their new found free time at home. A few times I had posts ready to go wanting to call them out with something along the lines it's easy for you to suggest everyone shut down while you are getting a check oh and by the way a check which is income produced from the taxes from some of the very people you are saying need to stay home and keep shut down. Careful with the line you tow t because if businesses close, real estate become vacant (less commercial property taxes), business owners have to sell assets like their personal property (homes) , suddenly the tax well begins to shrink which means your own job might be on the line come budget time. On the flip side, business people have to be cognitive of the environment we live in and just roll with the precautions. We will know by August if masking up and re closing/or limiting establishments capacity is working. If not, then the data needs to be looked at again to see if their is some funny business going on. Yup We saw some of the same exact thing going on and it was very, very hard for me, and especially my wife to bite her tongue about some of the things we saw teachers posting on their facebook pages! So, you certainly won't get any argument from me on that one. lol As far as my wife's view on it she fully realizes that businesses must be allowed to remain open and function and simply need to do as you say and take all proper precautions and refuse to serve anyone who does not follow the guidelines. I saw this morning on the 4:30 news that SA reported 200 new cases yesterday. Though that is still a fairly large number it certainly looks a bit better than the 1200 just a week ago so let us all keep our fingers crossed that it is slowing up some.
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Post by CC_Varmints on Jul 6, 2020 15:42:47 GMT -6
From Matt Diggs @professordiggs Again, if I can't go have a beer at a pub or have a meeting at my college, what structure of practices, scrimmages, transportation and audience will be workable for #txhsfb? We have to start being realistic, even if we have our masks on. t.co/IGIYBBNi8vwww.dallasnews.com/sports/oklahoma-sooners/2020/07/05/is-moving-football-to-the-spring-really-such-a-bad-idea-like-it-or-not-its-time-to-consider-the-option/Is moving football to the spring really such a bad idea? Like it or not, it’s time to consider the option With COVID-19 cases rising, there’s a pretty good chance football may not be an option this fall. Straight up: The 2020 sports calendar is irrevocably wrecked. Doesn’t matter what happens now, there’s no fixing it. The Mavs could come to like living in a bubble and FC Dallas could avoid infecting the rest of MLS and the Rangers could remember to close the lid before flushing, and it wouldn’t help. Not enough, anyway. No one will look back at the most tumultuous year in at least a generation and label it a golden year of sport. So if it’s already a bust, is flip-flopping football really such an awful idea? I can hear you all the way over here: If God really wanted us to play football in the spring, He’d have found better financing. But let’s face it, at the rate cases are spiking, there’s a pretty good chance football might not be an option this fall, either. Might as well consider our options. Lincoln Riley, for one, has thought about flip-flopping, and he’s all in if it comes to that. “I think the people who say it’s not [an option], in my opinion, just don’t want to think about it,” the Oklahoma coach told reporters Friday. “I just think it would be wrong of us to take any potential option off the table right now. I think it’d be very difficult to say the spring is not a potential option. “I, for one, think it’s very doable.” Riley’s opinion carries some weight, too, and not just because he’s the only Big 12 coach these days who can find his way to the College Football Playoff. You might recall he was one of the few coaches who thought bringing players back to campuses so soon this summer was a bad idea. He could end up 2-for-2 on coronavirus questions. Riley isn’t the only coach open to the possibilities. Jason Lovvorn has thought about it a lot. The football coach at First Baptist Academy went so far as to formulate timelines for flopping spring and fall sports. A poll of North Texas football coaches by our Greg Riddle found 84% were in favor of such a plan. The pluses: Because personal contact makes football and wrestling the most high-risk sports for COVID-19, it makes sense to wait for outbreaks to plateau or decline. By February we might even have a vaccine. Conditions would be more conducive for a flip-flop, too. Warmer weather and not as much rain in the fall, a potential boon for baseball and softball; cooler conditions in the spring, meaning less risk of heat stroke for football players. The minuses: Football recruits who planned to enroll in college next spring would miss their senior seasons. Baseball players would roll straight from summer leagues to high school seasons with no break, meaning potential risks for pitchers. Several baseball coaches reacting to Riddle’s story and Lovvorn’s proposal called it a no-go out of reflex. They already missed one season this year. They don’t want to risk losing another if the pandemic wipes out everything this fall. But under Lovvorn’s plan, if no one plays this fall, traditional spring sports would rate first priority next spring, as usual. Look, no emergency plan is foolproof. Some kids would be affected adversely, no question. But the priority should be to find the best and safest plan possible for the greatest number of student-athletes. And let’s not forget another reason to give flip-flopping a shot: money. You knew this was coming, didn’t you? Like it or not, football revenues drive everything else in athletics. No college has a rainy-day fund to raid. Consider what happened last week at Boise State, which announced it was cutting its baseball and swimming and diving programs. The athletic director estimated it would save $2.3 million, and even that won’t be enough. Because if Albertsons Stadium, with a seating capacity of 36,000, is limited because of coronavirus restrictions to half- or quarter-full this fall, Boise’s budget will still come up $7-$10 million short. Certainly, there are no guarantees that crowds might return to games next spring, either, but chances are a lot better then than in the next couple of months. I’d rate the odds of even quarter-full stadiums this fall at next to nil. We can’t keep neighborhood bars open. What makes you think football fans would practice social distancing once they’ve had a beer or two or 12? Even if you make fans sit every other seat, they still have to get up to go to the restroom or concession stand. Who’s telling them to maintain a safe distance from each other while standing in an interminable line? Would you like that job? Who listens to reason when her team is down three touchdowns and the line to the women’s restroom snakes around the stadium? What’s even worse than all of the above is the notion of playing football in front of nobody. Like a tree falling in the forest, only not as exciting. At the moment, flip-flopping is all just talk. The UIL has yet to consider it a viable option, so you can imagine how far behind the NCAA is. Granted, it’s a pretty big proposition to take on with only a month’s notice. But it’s just as much of a gamble to hope everything will be normal. Now’s no time to play it safe. Going big, Jason Lovvorn quoted Teddy Roosevelt: “In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing.”
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Post by WAC on Jul 6, 2020 17:11:23 GMT -6
From Matt Diggs @professordiggs Again, if I can't go have a beer at a pub or have a meeting at my college, what structure of practices, scrimmages, transportation and audience will be workable for #txhsfb? We have to start being realistic, even if we have our masks on. t.co/IGIYBBNi8vwww.dallasnews.com/sports/oklahoma-sooners/2020/07/05/is-moving-football-to-the-spring-really-such-a-bad-idea-like-it-or-not-its-time-to-consider-the-option/Is moving football to the spring really such a bad idea? Like it or not, it’s time to consider the option With COVID-19 cases rising, there’s a pretty good chance football may not be an option this fall. Straight up: The 2020 sports calendar is irrevocably wrecked. Doesn’t matter what happens now, there’s no fixing it. The Mavs could come to like living in a bubble and FC Dallas could avoid infecting the rest of MLS and the Rangers could remember to close the lid before flushing, and it wouldn’t help. Not enough, anyway. No one will look back at the most tumultuous year in at least a generation and label it a golden year of sport. So if it’s already a bust, is flip-flopping football really such an awful idea? I can hear you all the way over here: If God really wanted us to play football in the spring, He’d have found better financing. But let’s face it, at the rate cases are spiking, there’s a pretty good chance football might not be an option this fall, either. Might as well consider our options. Lincoln Riley, for one, has thought about flip-flopping, and he’s all in if it comes to that. “I think the people who say it’s not [an option], in my opinion, just don’t want to think about it,” the Oklahoma coach told reporters Friday. “I just think it would be wrong of us to take any potential option off the table right now. I think it’d be very difficult to say the spring is not a potential option. “I, for one, think it’s very doable.” Riley’s opinion carries some weight, too, and not just because he’s the only Big 12 coach these days who can find his way to the College Football Playoff. You might recall he was one of the few coaches who thought bringing players back to campuses so soon this summer was a bad idea. He could end up 2-for-2 on coronavirus questions. Riley isn’t the only coach open to the possibilities. Jason Lovvorn has thought about it a lot. The football coach at First Baptist Academy went so far as to formulate timelines for flopping spring and fall sports. A poll of North Texas football coaches by our Greg Riddle found 84% were in favor of such a plan. The pluses: Because personal contact makes football and wrestling the most high-risk sports for COVID-19, it makes sense to wait for outbreaks to plateau or decline. By February we might even have a vaccine. Conditions would be more conducive for a flip-flop, too. Warmer weather and not as much rain in the fall, a potential boon for baseball and softball; cooler conditions in the spring, meaning less risk of heat stroke for football players. The minuses: Football recruits who planned to enroll in college next spring would miss their senior seasons. Baseball players would roll straight from summer leagues to high school seasons with no break, meaning potential risks for pitchers. Several baseball coaches reacting to Riddle’s story and Lovvorn’s proposal called it a no-go out of reflex. They already missed one season this year. They don’t want to risk losing another if the pandemic wipes out everything this fall. But under Lovvorn’s plan, if no one plays this fall, traditional spring sports would rate first priority next spring, as usual. Look, no emergency plan is foolproof. Some kids would be affected adversely, no question. But the priority should be to find the best and safest plan possible for the greatest number of student-athletes. And let’s not forget another reason to give flip-flopping a shot: money. You knew this was coming, didn’t you? Like it or not, football revenues drive everything else in athletics. No college has a rainy-day fund to raid. Consider what happened last week at Boise State, which announced it was cutting its baseball and swimming and diving programs. The athletic director estimated it would save $2.3 million, and even that won’t be enough. Because if Albertsons Stadium, with a seating capacity of 36,000, is limited because of coronavirus restrictions to half- or quarter-full this fall, Boise’s budget will still come up $7-$10 million short. Certainly, there are no guarantees that crowds might return to games next spring, either, but chances are a lot better then than in the next couple of months. I’d rate the odds of even quarter-full stadiums this fall at next to nil. We can’t keep neighborhood bars open. What makes you think football fans would practice social distancing once they’ve had a beer or two or 12? Even if you make fans sit every other seat, they still have to get up to go to the restroom or concession stand. Who’s telling them to maintain a safe distance from each other while standing in an interminable line? Would you like that job? Who listens to reason when her team is down three touchdowns and the line to the women’s restroom snakes around the stadium? What’s even worse than all of the above is the notion of playing football in front of nobody. Like a tree falling in the forest, only not as exciting. At the moment, flip-flopping is all just talk. The UIL has yet to consider it a viable option, so you can imagine how far behind the NCAA is. Granted, it’s a pretty big proposition to take on with only a month’s notice. But it’s just as much of a gamble to hope everything will be normal. Now’s no time to play it safe. Going big, Jason Lovvorn quoted Teddy Roosevelt: “In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing.” There is no reason to do this. 1. Is there information to show things will be different than they are in the Spring? No. Heck they cancelled all spring sports just 3 months ago 2. There’s no data is this write up and data will show high school aged kids are less likely to get and transmit the virus. This isn’t downplaying it. Just facts. 3. That being said, should UIL decide to move forward as planned, AND waive the no Friday TV rule, you can probably still watch the games the kids are playing
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Post by redrage00 on Jul 14, 2020 20:54:24 GMT -6
We're not having HS football this fall. It's a mess right now. It's not even slowing down. People think it is just affecting the elderly and those with underlying conditions but healthy people are dying too. You can be asymptomatic and bring it home to your family and it affect them worse than you.
Texas Children's Hospital here in Houston is taking adult patients. They are ALL full!
Be safe and smart people!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 9:29:58 GMT -6
We're not having HS football this fall. It's a mess right now. It's not even slowing down. People think it is just affecting the elderly and those with underlying conditions but healthy people are dying too. You can be asymptomatic and bring it home to your family and it affect them worse than you. Texas Children's Hospital here in Houston is taking adult patients. They are ALL full! Be safe and smart people! Yes, we are having football this fall. It will slow down and burn out. It has everywhere else in the world. Statistically, this is still low risk for the healthy. The media is fear mongering. That doesnt mean its not to be taken serious, but the reality is, 99% are ok.
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Post by gpfan55 on Jul 16, 2020 10:22:36 GMT -6
We're not having HS football this fall. It's a mess right now. It's not even slowing down. People think it is just affecting the elderly and those with underlying conditions but healthy people are dying too. You can be asymptomatic and bring it home to your family and it affect them worse than you. Texas Children's Hospital here in Houston is taking adult patients. They are ALL full! Be safe and smart people! Yes, we are having football this fall. It will slow down and burn out. It has everywhere else in the world. Statistically, this is still low risk for the healthy. The media is fear mongering. That doesnt mean its not to be taken serious, but the reality is, 99% are ok. I ask my question again: how can we have HS football this year? It's not about young 17 year old players, it's their families and coaches. They will get exposed if they play. Only a matter of time. What about the sibling at home with an underlying condition? Or mom and dad? Older coaches?
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Post by WAC on Jul 16, 2020 10:43:41 GMT -6
Yes, we are having football this fall. It will slow down and burn out. It has everywhere else in the world. Statistically, this is still low risk for the healthy. The media is fear mongering. That doesnt mean its not to be taken serious, but the reality is, 99% are ok. I ask my question again: how can we have HS football this year? It's not about young 17 year old players, it's their families and coaches. They will get exposed if they play. Only a matter of time. What about the sibling at home with an underlying condition? Or mom and dad? Older coaches? I urge you to do some reading and research on this. From what I have seen and heard the likelihood of a student transmitting the virus to another child or adult is minuscule.
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Post by gpfan55 on Jul 16, 2020 12:45:10 GMT -6
I ask my question again: how can we have HS football this year? It's not about young 17 year old players, it's their families and coaches. They will get exposed if they play. Only a matter of time. What about the sibling at home with an underlying condition? Or mom and dad? Older coaches? I urge you to do some reading and research on this. From what I have seen and heard the likelihood of a student transmitting the virus to another child or adult is minuscule. I've never seen that written anywhere. The virus spreads quickly. Why would it matter if the person is 60 or 16?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 12:47:55 GMT -6
I urge you to do some reading and research on this. From what I have seen and heard the likelihood of a student transmitting the virus to another child or adult is minuscule. I've never seen that written anywhere. The virus spreads quickly. Why would it matter if the person is 60 or 16? They only read the conservative memes that fit their narratives. Stop arguing the point with them. I am.
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Post by Purp on Jul 16, 2020 13:14:41 GMT -6
I've never seen that written anywhere. The virus spreads quickly. Why would it matter if the person is 60 or 16? They only read the conservative memes that fit their narratives. Stop arguing the point with them. I am. I actually laughed at it. It was funny that someone was trying to be serious, and type that in the same breath. To hell with science!!
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