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Post by OCCNH on Aug 24, 2013 9:22:19 GMT -6
I will give the quick version, I am at the hospital with my wife. FB ganged up on GP when Bisby was in. Took out Bisby and he no longer played. FB scored with QB #9. He is accurate, however, his feet telegraph his passes. He may look off defenders but his feet are always lined up with #1 receiver. When FB was forces to throw to 2 or 3, completion was about 50%. FB was allowed more offensive playes in the 1st and 2nd series. GP defense needs to develop fast. My hope is this is a defense that develops as the season pregresses. GP will be dangerous next year, and more versitle. There is very little parking at FB. The girls are cute!! 1. Scroll up and read the play by play and you will figure out the format and number of plays each had and in what order. 2. No parking? Are you kidding me? The K-12 campus is all in one place across the street from the stadium and all that parking is available unless you are too lazy to walk across the street. 3. So, the QB doesn't throw across his body and you think this is an issue and that the secondary will read his feet. Pffft. 4. Dang you let out FB's secret about the defense "ganging up" on opponents. LOL 5. Test a grape or two before you go to the check out line it will stop your having sour grapes. I hope your wife is ok and it's nothing serious. Well sorry I had to miss this. Sounds like the rest of south texas doesn't have to worry FB lost Mims. It will be a totally different offense with Brewer at QB. Good Luck with the rest of the season GP
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Post by rock90 on Aug 24, 2013 11:06:50 GMT -6
First, let me say that FB looked solid across the board last night and right now look poised for another DC & long playoff run. They also have excellent depth with their #2s practically scoring at will against the GP 2s and their JV doing the same (F's were more balanced, 2-2 I think). The controlled scrimmage even with the #1's wasn't that close, but the GP starters played better in the live portion. I'd guess that FB has the most across the board team speed and size that GP will see this year. This isn't a knock against the other teams on GPs schedule.
On the GP 1s, the offense needs to get more diverse. I don't think the 1st team tried any passes deeper than 5 yds which isn't going to move the LB/Safety's off the line. They'll do fine with this offense against 5-6 of the opponents on the schedule, but won't compete for a DC like this. They need to use/find a speed option out wide or in the slot. Right now, I think those options are all starting in the secondary...Starcher/Biles/White etc... A good spread offense doesn't need the line to dominate, just play even and open a few cracks to get the QB/RB to the next level - which other than a couple of times they didn't really do last night, but you have to threaten with more than two options, which is all they showed last night (I mean QB/RB, not necessarily Tanner/Bisby).
On D, I didn't see much out of the front seven, it seemed like FB could get what they wanted between the tackles most of the night - which will get GP beat badly if they don't get that solved before Alice. The secondary got better as the night progressed, but took some time to adjust to the speed of FB. Since they are some of the fastest kids on the GP team, they don't see that kind of speed from the GP WRs in practice and so took a while to get used to it, but I saw some positive things from the group before the end of the scrimmage.
By the look of the 2s, GP doesn't have nearly the depth of FB so they need to stay reasonably healthy.
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Post by Groundhog on Aug 24, 2013 11:16:06 GMT -6
First, let me say that FB looked solid across the board last night and right now look poised for another DC & long playoff run. They also have excellent depth with their #2s practically scoring at will against the GP 2s and their JV doing the same (F's were more balanced, 2-2 I think). The controlled scrimmage even with the #1's wasn't that close, but the GP starters played better in the live portion. I'd guess that FB has the most across the board team speed and size that GP will see this year. This isn't a knock against the other teams on GPs schedule. On the GP 1s, the offense needs to get more diverse. I don't think the 1st team tried any passes deeper than 5 yds which isn't going to move the LB/Safety's off the line. They'll do fine with this offense against 5-6 of the opponents on the schedule, but won't compete for a DC like this. They need to use/find a speed option out wide or in the slot. Right now, I think those options are all starting in the secondary...Starcher/Biles/White etc... A good spread offense doesn't need the line to dominate, just play even and open a few cracks to get the QB/RB to the next level - which other than a couple of times they didn't really do last night, but you have to threaten with more than two options, which is all they showed last night (I mean QB/RB, not necessarily Tanner/Bisby). On D, I didn't see much out of the front seven, it seemed like FB could get what they wanted between the tackles most of the night - which will get GP beat badly if they don't get that solved before Alice. The secondary got better as the night progressed, but took some time to adjust to the speed of FB. Since they are some of the fastest kids on the GP team, they don't see that kind of speed from the GP WRs in practice and so took a while to get used to it, but I saw some positive things from the group before the end of the scrimmage. By the look of the 2s, GP doesn't have nearly the depth of FB so they need to stay reasonably healthy. Good analysis of the scrimmage. As far as the offensive scheme, I would assume that the coaches used the bare bones of the offense to evaluate players. I don't think the coaches would have really opened the play book for a scrimmage. I wasn't there so I could be wrong.
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Post by FB fan on Aug 24, 2013 13:28:37 GMT -6
First, let me say that FB looked solid across the board last night and right now look poised for another DC & long playoff run. They also have excellent depth with their #2s practically scoring at will against the GP 2s and their JV doing the same (F's were more balanced, 2-2 I think). The controlled scrimmage even with the #1's wasn't that close, but the GP starters played better in the live portion. I'd guess that FB has the most across the board team speed and size that GP will see this year. This isn't a knock against the other teams on GPs schedule. On the GP 1s, the offense needs to get more diverse. I don't think the 1st team tried any passes deeper than 5 yds which isn't going to move the LB/Safety's off the line. They'll do fine with this offense against 5-6 of the opponents on the schedule, but won't compete for a DC like this. They need to use/find a speed option out wide or in the slot. Right now, I think those options are all starting in the secondary...Starcher/Biles/White etc... A good spread offense doesn't need the line to dominate, just play even and open a few cracks to get the QB/RB to the next level - which other than a couple of times they didn't really do last night, but you have to threaten with more than two options, which is all they showed last night (I mean QB/RB, not necessarily Tanner/Bisby). On D, I didn't see much out of the front seven, it seemed like FB could get what they wanted between the tackles most of the night - which will get GP beat badly if they don't get that solved before Alice. The secondary got better as the night progressed, but took some time to adjust to the speed of FB. Since they are some of the fastest kids on the GP team, they don't see that kind of speed from the GP WRs in practice and so took a while to get used to it, but I saw some positive things from the group before the end of the scrimmage. By the look of the 2s, GP doesn't have nearly the depth of FB so they need to stay reasonably healthy. Good analysis of the scrimmage. As far as the offensive scheme, I would assume that the coaches used the bare bones of the offense to evaluate players. I don't think the coaches would have really opened the play book for a scrimmage. I wasn't there so I could be wrong. Right on target GH about not showing a lot of playbook for FB anyway. Not only were the King coaches there taking notes last night almost the whole King team too. They walked right by JD and I with their note books in hand.
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Post by CC_Varmints on Aug 24, 2013 13:43:01 GMT -6
Good analysis of the scrimmage. As far as the offensive scheme, I would assume that the coaches used the bare bones of the offense to evaluate players. I don't think the coaches would have really opened the play book for a scrimmage. I wasn't there so I could be wrong. Right on target GH about not showing a lot of playbook for FB anyway. Not only were the King coaches there taking notes last night almost the whole King team too. They walked right by JD and I with their note books in hand. I guess the non-District game with King next week is serious business in their book, even though win or lose it has no impact on District play or the playoffs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 15:19:58 GMT -6
Right on target GH about not showing a lot of playbook for FB anyway. Not only were the King coaches there taking notes last night almost the whole King team too. They walked right by JD and I with their note books in hand. I guess the non-District game with King next week is serious business in their book, even though win or lose it has no impact on District play or the playoffs. They apparently want that GORILLA off their backs.......BAD. LOL
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Post by gpking on Aug 25, 2013 8:03:21 GMT -6
Just wondering why all the FB fans flaked and nobody met us at Los Cabos? We had 6 GP fans and nobody from FB showed
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Post by CC_Varmints on Aug 25, 2013 11:20:34 GMT -6
Just wondering why all the FB fans flaked and nobody met us at Los Cabos? We had 6 GP fans and nobody from FB showed I apologize that I had work problems that delayed me that I even missed the Scrimmage.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 25, 2013 13:30:29 GMT -6
I will give the quick version, I am at the hospital with my wife. FB ganged up on GP when Bisby was in. Took out Bisby and he no longer played. FB scored with QB #9. He is accurate, however, his feet telegraph his passes. He may look off defenders but his feet are always lined up with #1 receiver. When FB was forces to throw to 2 or 3, completion was about 50%. FB was allowed more offensive playes in the 1st and 2nd series. GP defense needs to develop fast. My hope is this is a defense that develops as the season pregresses. GP will be dangerous next year, and more versitle. There is very little parking at FB. The girls are cute!! Sounds to me like the super bowl of all scrimmages was very one-sided. You say the qB telegraphs his #1 with feet postition, but doesn't a good QB square up his feet to his throw and deliver it typically? I'd say that the DBs from other teams will have a very difficulty time seeing his feet and reacting fast enough to it to do them any good.. Hell, if I'm the coach at GP, Bisby might not even have played! Our Stud RB got one carry in our scrimmage and might have been in for 3 other snaps total and was not involved in the play. I see no reason to play your studs in a scrimmage...NO REASON. But it sounds like FB might just be the best overall team (offensively/defensively) in the DB to start the year. If not, they are right up there I'd bet. Could FB win D1 R4 and PLC win D2?
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Post by Purp on Aug 25, 2013 13:40:33 GMT -6
What I mean about telegraphing with his feet is this, Typically when a qb is tought to look off defenders, he is taught to square up the look off as well, ala the dancing qb!! It's picky I know. I understand he is a 10th grader, I might be wrong, and there is no where for this kid to go but up, he was slinging that ball around impressively. As I was leaving the stadium I saw one of the coaches with the qb explaining that very thing to him. I don't care what school it is from the CB area, I would love for someone from around her go to the finals and represent the area. Heck if Alice made it, I don't know if they are CB or not, but I would be their biggest non alician fan. Are they Alicians?
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Post by sotex on Aug 25, 2013 13:42:50 GMT -6
I will give the quick version, I am at the hospital with my wife. FB ganged up on GP when Bisby was in. Took out Bisby and he no longer played. FB scored with QB #9. He is accurate, however, his feet telegraph his passes. He may look off defenders but his feet are always lined up with #1 receiver. When FB was forces to throw to 2 or 3, completion was about 50%. FB was allowed more offensive playes in the 1st and 2nd series. GP defense needs to develop fast. My hope is this is a defense that develops as the season pregresses. GP will be dangerous next year, and more versitle. There is very little parking at FB. The girls are cute!! Sounds to me like the super bowl of all scrimmages was very one-sided. You say the qB telegraphs his #1 with feet postition, but doesn't a good QB square up his feet to his throw and deliver it typically? I'd say that the DBs from other teams will have a very difficulty time seeing his feet and reacting fast enough to it to do them any good.. Hell, if I'm the coach at GP, Bisby might not even have played! Our Stud RB got one carry in our scrimmage and might have been in for 3 other snaps total and was not involved in the play. I see no reason to play your studs in a scrimmage...NO REASON. But it sounds like FB might just be the best overall team (offensively/defensively) in the DB to start the year. If not, they are right up there I'd bet. Could FB win D1 R4 and PLC win D2? RIght on clemensbufd. I have been saying all along that the Bluff has some serious talent.
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 25, 2013 13:44:54 GMT -6
Sounds to me like the super bowl of all scrimmages was very one-sided. You say the qB telegraphs his #1 with feet postition, but doesn't a good QB square up his feet to his throw and deliver it typically? I'd say that the DBs from other teams will have a very difficulty time seeing his feet and reacting fast enough to it to do them any good.. Hell, if I'm the coach at GP, Bisby might not even have played! Our Stud RB got one carry in our scrimmage and might have been in for 3 other snaps total and was not involved in the play. I see no reason to play your studs in a scrimmage...NO REASON. But it sounds like FB might just be the best overall team (offensively/defensively) in the DB to start the year. If not, they are right up there I'd bet. Could FB win D1 R4 and PLC win D2? RIght on clemensbufd. I have been saying all along that the Bluff has some serious talent. Yessir. I really liked what I saw on the field last year in their underclassmen when I saw them play Leander. Lots of good size and speed for sure. If they put it together and stay healthy they'll be a handful for anyone to deal with!
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Post by FB fan on Aug 25, 2013 16:28:42 GMT -6
Just wondering why all the FB fans flaked and nobody met us at Los Cabos? We had 6 GP fans and nobody from FB showed As for me, I went to see the JV and Freshman scrimmages that both started at 5:30 when you guys were going get to Los Cabos. Both of those were on the field at the same time but playing "half court" football. I posted that we would have to make a decision on which to do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 16:34:32 GMT -6
I will give the quick version, I am at the hospital with my wife. FB ganged up on GP when Bisby was in. Took out Bisby and he no longer played. FB scored with QB #9. He is accurate, however, his feet telegraph his passes. He may look off defenders but his feet are always lined up with #1 receiver. When FB was forces to throw to 2 or 3, completion was about 50%. FB was allowed more offensive playes in the 1st and 2nd series. GP defense needs to develop fast. My hope is this is a defense that develops as the season pregresses. GP will be dangerous next year, and more versitle. There is very little parking at FB. The girls are cute!! Sounds to me like the super bowl of all scrimmages was very one-sided. You say the qB telegraphs his #1 with feet postition, but doesn't a good QB square up his feet to his throw and deliver it typically? I'd say that the DBs from other teams will have a very difficulty time seeing his feet and reacting fast enough to it to do them any good.. Hell, if I'm the coach at GP, Bisby might not even have played! Our Stud RB got one carry in our scrimmage and might have been in for 3 other snaps total and was not involved in the play. I see no reason to play your studs in a scrimmage...NO REASON. But it sounds like FB might just be the best overall team (offensively/defensively) in the DB to start the year. If not, they are right up there I'd bet. Could FB win D1 R4 and PLC win D2? No love for Calallen?? Take this man off the F-350 waiting list!
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Post by Clemensbuff on Aug 26, 2013 4:19:44 GMT -6
Sounds to me like the super bowl of all scrimmages was very one-sided. You say the qB telegraphs his #1 with feet postition, but doesn't a good QB square up his feet to his throw and deliver it typically? I'd say that the DBs from other teams will have a very difficulty time seeing his feet and reacting fast enough to it to do them any good.. Hell, if I'm the coach at GP, Bisby might not even have played! Our Stud RB got one carry in our scrimmage and might have been in for 3 other snaps total and was not involved in the play. I see no reason to play your studs in a scrimmage...NO REASON. But it sounds like FB might just be the best overall team (offensively/defensively) in the DB to start the year. If not, they are right up there I'd bet. Could FB win D1 R4 and PLC win D2? No love for Calallen?? Take this man off the F-350 waiting list! I have no doubt the Cats will be in the thick of things! Especially if the offense gets it goin.
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