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Post by ltcav83 on Jun 23, 2011 13:01:01 GMT -6
Ok boys, here is mine:
1. LT ( surprise ) may be as good as the 2008 team. Nuff said
2. Smithson Valley- excellent team, but cannot be one dimensional and beat LT.
3. Cedar Park - still a very strong team, but huge losses on both lines of scrimmage
4. Alamo Heights-good coaching and sound fundamentals brings them back this year.
5. Kerrville Tivy - lost Johnny Football, but still some good players. Tough schedule early.
6. Calallen - too one dimensional and undersized, but system good enough for a bunch of wins
7. Flour Bluff - better than last year. Need to continue working on that running game
8. GP-many on here will think that this is too low. Go out and show me.
9. Vic East-some really good skill position players returning but not as good of a team as last year.
10. Insert your team as a sleeper here!
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Post by ltcav83 on Jun 23, 2011 13:01:53 GMT -6
Ok boys, here is mine: 1. LT ( surprise ) may be as good as the 2008 team. Nuff said 2. Smithson Valley- excellent team, but cannot be one dimensional and beat LT. 3. Cedar Park - still a very strong team, but huge losses on both lines of scrimmage 4. Alamo Heights-good coaching and sound fundamentals brings them back this year. 5. Kerrville Tivy - lost Johnny Football, but still some good players. Tough schedule early. 6. Calallen - too one dimensional and undersized, but system good enough for a bunch of wins 7. Flour Bluff - better than last year. Need to continue working on that running game 8. GP-many on here will think that this is too low. Go out and show me. 9. Vic East-some really good skill position players returning but not as good of a team as last year. 10. Insert your team as a sleeper here! oops, meant passing game for the bluffers! |
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Post by gpwf on Jun 23, 2011 13:02:33 GMT -6
Ok boys, here is mine: 1. LT ( surprise ) may be as good as the 2008 team. Nuff said 2. Smithson Valley- excellent team, but cannot be one dimensional and beat LT. 3. Cedar Park - still a very strong team, but huge losses on both lines of scrimmage 4. Alamo Heights-good coaching and sound fundamentals brings them back this year. 5. Kerrville Tivy - lost Johnny Football, but still some good players. Tough schedule early. 6. Calallen - too one dimensional and undersized, but system good enough for a bunch of wins 7. Flour Bluff - better than last year. Need to continue working on that running game 8. GP-many on here will think that this is too low. Go out and show me. 9. Vic East-some really good skill position players returning but not as good of a team as last year. 10. Insert your team as a sleeper here! 1.LT 2.CP 3. SV 4.Kerr 5.PLC 6. AH 7.Cal Allen 8. GP 9. West 10.East 11. FB May not start out this way, but this will be how they finish |
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Post by gpjohn on Jun 23, 2011 13:05:14 GMT -6
Ok boys, here is mine: 1. LT ( surprise ) may be as good as the 2008 team. Nuff said 2. Smithson Valley- excellent team, but cannot be one dimensional and beat LT. 3. Cedar Park - still a very strong team, but huge losses on both lines of scrimmage 4. Alamo Heights-good coaching and sound fundamentals brings them back this year. 5. Kerrville Tivy - lost Johnny Football, but still some good players. Tough schedule early. 6. Calallen - too one dimensional and undersized, but system good enough for a bunch of wins 7. Flour Bluff - better than last year. Need to continue working on that running game 8. GP-many on here will think that this is too low. Go out and show me. 9. Vic East-some really good skill position players returning but not as good of a team as last year. 10. Insert your team as a sleeper here! No love for PLC? I think they are ahead of calallen. Surprised to see GP up there, with new coach, new system may take a game or 4 to get squard away. |
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Post by ltcav83 on Jun 23, 2011 13:08:43 GMT -6
Ok boys, here is mine: 1. LT ( surprise ) may be as good as the 2008 team. Nuff said 2. Smithson Valley- excellent team, but cannot be one dimensional and beat LT. 3. Cedar Park - still a very strong team, but huge losses on both lines of scrimmage 4. Alamo Heights-good coaching and sound fundamentals brings them back this year. 5. Kerrville Tivy - lost Johnny Football, but still some good players. Tough schedule early. 6. Calallen - too one dimensional and undersized, but system good enough for a bunch of wins 7. Flour Bluff - better than last year. Need to continue working on that running game 8. GP-many on here will think that this is too low. Go out and show me. 9. Vic East-some really good skill position players returning but not as good of a team as last year. 10. Insert your team as a sleeper here! No love for PLC? I think they are ahead of calallen. Surprised to see GP up there, with new coach, new system may take a game or 4 to get squard away. both of you are right. I knew I was omitting a good team. PLC would be #7 on my list. GP rating based upon tradition and talent that comes thru the program. |
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Post by DD Booger on Jun 23, 2011 13:43:09 GMT -6
No love for PLC? I think they are ahead of calallen. Surprised to see GP up there, with new coach, new system may take a game or 4 to get squard away. both of you are right. I knew I was omitting a good team. PLC would be #7 on my list. GP rating based upon tradition and talent that comes thru the program. Not disputing the rankings, but one dimensional? PLC has a one dimensional offense, before last year, GP was real one dimensional. If Cal was one dimensional they never would have beat Alamo Heights or Boerne Champion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 13:55:23 GMT -6
both of you are right. I knew I was omitting a good team. PLC would be #7 on my list. GP rating based upon tradition and talent that comes thru the program. Not disputing the rankings, but one dimensional? PLC has a one dimensional offense, before last year, GP was real one dimensional. If Cal was one dimensional they never would have beat Alamo Heights or Boerne Champion. I was ready to post the same thing. Of course these are ranking for this year and what happen last year doesn't matter. But for the sake of what we like to do this time of year and that is guess, let's say Calallen doesn't fall off that much and plays that brand of football it kind of got rolling in the playoffs. I think we could beat a Tivy (now without Mr Johnny football) and Alamo Heights. |
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Post by CC_Varmints on Jun 23, 2011 13:57:43 GMT -6
Ok boys, here is mine: 1. LT ( surprise ) may be as good as the 2008 team. Nuff said 2. Smithson Valley- excellent team, but cannot be one dimensional and beat LT. 3. Cedar Park - still a very strong team, but huge losses on both lines of scrimmage 4. Alamo Heights-good coaching and sound fundamentals brings them back this year. 5. Kerrville Tivy - lost Johnny Football, but still some good players. Tough schedule early. 6. Calallen - too one dimensional and undersized, but system good enough for a bunch of wins 7. Flour Bluff - better than last year. Need to continue working on that running game 8. GP-many on here will think that this is too low. Go out and show me. 9. Vic East-some really good skill position players returning but not as good of a team as last year. 10. Insert your team as a sleeper here! Here's my stab at it: 1. Lake Travis (no brainer 4 straight State Championships) 2. Smithson Valley 3. Cedar Park (only if QB Hogan returns, otherwise they drop 2 spots). 4. Calallen 5. Port Lavaca Calhoun 6. Alamo Heights 7. Kerrville Tivy 8. Flour Bluff 9. Gregory-Portland 10. Boerne Champion |
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Post by ltcav83 on Jun 23, 2011 13:58:56 GMT -6
both of you are right. I knew I was omitting a good team. PLC would be #7 on my list. GP rating based upon tradition and talent that comes thru the program. Not disputing the rankings, but one dimensional? PLC has a one dimensional offense, before last year, GP was real one dimensional. If Cal was one dimensional they never would have beat Alamo Heights or Boerne Champion. I never said they could not beat those teams, but to compete with teams like LT and Aledo ( D2 ), Calallen needs to have more than just an excellent running game. Alamo Heights was a bit down last year and I expect them to rebound. Both AH and Tivy have a pretty diversified offense. In Tivy's case it helped to have a freak at QB who could run and throw. AH usually has a strong running game,but can throw when needed. I am just looking thru the lens of games that I have seen LT play against Calallen, Beeville Jones, Alice, Bluff, East, AH and Steele. Some of those teams are just one dimensional and are easier to defense. I will readily admit, though, that you guys see all of these team more than I do. |
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Post by DD Booger on Jun 23, 2011 13:59:24 GMT -6
Not disputing the rankings, but one dimensional? PLC has a one dimensional offense, before last year, GP was real one dimensional. If Cal was one dimensional they never would have beat Alamo Heights or Boerne Champion. I was ready to post the same thing. Of course these are ranking for this year and what happen last year doesn't matter. But for the sake of what we like to do this time of year and that is guess, let's say Calallen doesn't fall off that much and plays that brand of football it kind of got rolling in the playoffs. I think we could beat a Tivy (now without Mr Johnny football) and Alamo Heights. Well, I think we have a lot of question marks, but his assessment of a one dimensional offense is wrong. His rankings are as right as anyone else's opinion and I have no problem with them. |
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Post by DD Booger on Jun 23, 2011 14:06:09 GMT -6
I never said they could not beat those teams, but to compete with teams like LT and Aledo ( D2 ), Calallen needs to have more than just an excellent running game. Alamo Heights was a bit down last year and I expect them to rebound. I don't think you are even answering what I typed. I am not talking about whether we can/cannot beat those teams, merely that our offense is run from multiple sets. Both AH and Tivy have a pretty diversified offense. In Tivy's case it helped to have a freak at QB who could run and throw. AH usually has a strong running game,but can throw when needed. Having a QB that could run and throw was precisely why we beat AH and Boerne Champion who the week prior took apart a one-dimensional offense who couldn't keep up. I am just looking thru the lens of games that I have seen LT play against Calallen, Beeville Jones, Alice, Bluff, East, AH and Steele. Some of those teams are just one dimensional and are easier to defense. If you are basing the "one-dimensional" aspect on a game played back in 2007, well, I think you can do better than that. We weren't one dimensional by choice, you all made us one dimensional. I will readily admit, though, that you guys see all of these team more than I do. I think that is what happened here. No biggie. I think your rankings are just fine. |
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Post by ltcav83 on Jun 23, 2011 14:20:42 GMT -6
I never said they could not beat those teams, but to compete with teams like LT and Aledo ( D2 ), Calallen needs to have more than just an excellent running game. Alamo Heights was a bit down last year and I expect them to rebound. I don't think you are even answering what I typed. I am not talking about whether we can/cannot beat those teams, merely that our offense is run from multiple sets. Having a QB that could run and throw was precisely why we beat AH and Boerne Champion who the week prior took apart a one-dimensional offense who couldn't keep up. If you are basing the "one-dimensional" aspect on a game played back in 2007, well, I think you can do better than that. We weren't one dimensional by choice, you all made us one dimensional. I will readily admit, though, that you guys see all of these team more than I do. I think that is what happened here. No biggie. I think your rankings are just fine. Wasn't trying to start an argument, but here goes: The stats I saw were that Calallen averaged 134 in the air and 281 on the ground. Not entirely unbalanced, but not entirely balanced. Also of note: Passing against these teams: Vic East 1-4 Carroll 1-5 Ray 7-10 Mercedes 6-10 GP 4-8 AH 3-4 I will admit that they beat AH GP and East without passing much, but it certainly was not by being balanced. In my opinion ( and it may not be worth much !) when you compete at the levels that Calallen is accustomed to competing at, you cannot throw 3,4 or even 8 times in a game and beat excellent teams. |
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Post by DD Booger on Jun 23, 2011 14:23:48 GMT -6
I don't think you are even answering what I typed. I am not talking about whether we can/cannot beat those teams, merely that our offense is run from multiple sets. Having a QB that could run and throw was precisely why we beat AH and Boerne Champion who the week prior took apart a one-dimensional offense who couldn't keep up. If you are basing the "one-dimensional" aspect on a game played back in 2007, well, I think you can do better than that. We weren't one dimensional by choice, you all made us one dimensional. I think that is what happened here. No biggie. I think your rankings are just fine. Wasn't trying to start an argument, but here goes: The stats I saw were that Calallen averaged 134 on the ground and 281 thru the air. Not entirely unbalanced, but not entirely balanced. Also of note: Passing against these teams: Vic East 1-4 Carroll 1-5 Ray 7-10 Mercedes 6-10 GP 4-8 AH 3-4 I will admit that they beat AH GP and East without passing much, but it certainly was not by being balanced. In my opinion ( and it may not be worth much !) when you compete at the levels that Calallen is accustomed to competing at, you cannot throw 3,4 or even 8 times in a game and beat excellent teams. Balance in outcome and approach aren't the same. We took what the D gave us. If the running game stalled out because of run defense we could open it up and vice versa. My point is, if we were one dimensional, we wouldn't have an option after one was stopped. Our ability to run the ball sealed the game against AH. Our ability to do both is what created the comeback against BC and eventual one sided outcome in the 2nd half. I'll grant this, at the beginning of the year, we were TOO reliant on the spread and GP shut that down and VEast was doing the same until Calallen went back to the running game and that essentially changed the course of the season. |
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Post by CC_Varmints on Jun 23, 2011 14:31:38 GMT -6
No matter how undisciplined La Marque was, their speed killed Calallen. They shutdown the run and pass. And Aledo is just like LT. Well balanced. They blew La Marque's speed away with a very balanced team. Then they exploited La Marque with Gray. LT did the same to Denton Ryan's vaunted Defense. Picked them apart with a well balanced and precision offense. Aledo and LT were great at not letting the opposing Defense's dictate their Offense. LT and Aledo's Offense were too powerful for the Defense's to shut them down.
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Post by DD Booger on Jun 23, 2011 14:37:57 GMT -6
No matter how undisciplined La Marque was, their speed killed Calallen. They shutdown the run and pass. And Aledo is just like LT. Well balanced. They blew La Marque's speed away with a very balanced team. Then they exploited La Marque with Gray. LT did the same to Denton Ryan's vaunted Defense. Picked them apart with a well balanced and precision offense. Aledo and LT were great at not letting the opposing Defense's dictate their Offense. LT and Aledo's Offense were too powerful for the Defense's to shut them down. LT beat Ryan by attrition. Ryan's offense was pathetic against LT. LT didn't blow up Ryan's defense by their standards, but they were handed a lot of opportunities by LT's performance on D. The Aledo/LM game was close at half, but the second half was a different story. LM just didn't have enough horses out there. LM brings back a lot including the running back lost in Gray's performance who had 200+ himself vs Aledo. |
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